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ACCCG venue problem - can it be solved?
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ACCCG venue problem - can it be solved?


Dec 9, 2013, 5:41 PM

I sure hope with the new Falcons stadium that somehow the ACCCG can be accommodated. But, I really don't see that happening because I'm sure the SECCG will always have priority, and hotel-wise I can't see two games same day/wkend.

It just seems to me the SEC has a huge image/marketing advantage when they can guarantee their fans easy access and 72 deg and dry weather.

Huge advantage and I don't think the ACCCG has any option except Tampa/St Pete and that is awful location wise.

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maybe the Duke alumn can pony up to dome Panther stadium***


Dec 9, 2013, 5:44 PM



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really no need for a dome in Charlotte...


Dec 9, 2013, 6:04 PM

or in Atlanta, really. If NYC and DC can play in open air, so can those two teams.

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How would the SEC play basketball in an open stadium


Dec 9, 2013, 6:13 PM

in March?

GA Dome sees as much SEC and other activity as Falcons games, so I guess the dome is a big deal revenue-wise.

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Sorry but anybody would prefer the dome in Atlanta this past


Dec 9, 2013, 6:46 PM [ in reply to really no need for a dome in Charlotte... ]

weekend to the frozen turf in Green Bay. Even the BiG thinks that way.

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Either realignment(might happen)or go the Pac12 route ,


Dec 9, 2013, 5:46 PM

playing the game at the home stadium of the team with best record.

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Charlotte is not a bad venue....


Dec 9, 2013, 5:50 PM

The biggest issue is teams like Virginia Tech playing well enough to keep teams with a poor fan following like Duke and Miami out the championship game.

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


Re: Charlotte is not a bad venue....


Dec 9, 2013, 5:58 PM

Ditto

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Wasn't Duke's turnout respectable? It's hard to believe


Dec 9, 2013, 6:26 PM [ in reply to Charlotte is not a bad venue.... ]

even Duke fans around NC/SC and the students couldn't make a short trek to Charlotte. It would be different if in Atlanta or Tampa. But, good grief....

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Re: Charlotte is not a bad venue....


Dec 9, 2013, 6:28 PM [ in reply to Charlotte is not a bad venue.... ]

Agree. Charlotte is the ideal location for the game. Our problem is fan base. The one guarrenteed sell-out would be a Clemson/UNC matchup followed by a Clemson/Va Tech matchup. Only problem with the new system next year is travel. If your team makes the top four, you are first going to pay to travel to the conference championship. Next week you might have to travel to another site, and, if you win, you have to travel to the National Championship. $$$$$

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Char is an ideal host city, but outdoors in Dec is too iffy


Dec 9, 2013, 7:02 PM [ in reply to Charlotte is not a bad venue.... ]

Are there any conference championships that use neutral sites that are outdoors?

The SECCG attendance was only saved by Alabama being in in it when the game was at Legion Field.

The Big 12 CG was touch and go when it was outside in Kansas City.

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With the SEC expansion west


Dec 9, 2013, 5:51 PM

I bet it's only a matter of time before New Orleans or Dallas hosts. That frees up the Dome.

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The ACC doesn't want to play in Atlanta anyway.


Dec 9, 2013, 5:53 PM

The ACC has gone out of its way to schedule most of its championship venues in the state of North Carolina.

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Re: The ACC doesn't want to play in Atlanta anyway.


Dec 9, 2013, 6:00 PM

You gotta be kidding. The ACC would absolutely love to play their football CG in a dry controlled atmosphere.

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Do a check on the championships and where they


Dec 9, 2013, 6:50 PM

are/have been/will be played. You do understand there are other ACC championships besides football and NC is the preferred location by far.

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Re: Tobacco Road Dictators


Dec 9, 2013, 6:17 PM [ in reply to The ACC doesn't want to play in Atlanta anyway. ]

Love the ACC. No don't want to be in SEC, Big 12, etc. However, since the beginning of the conference, it has been controlled by NC fearsome foursome, NC, NCST, Duke and Wake. The rest our interlopers watching the "MBA,Dr., Professor" Tobacco Rd dynasty tell we poor outlanders how fortunate we are to be associated with such aristocracy. Time for a revolution. Stand up VA Tech, develop a backbone Miami, rise up Oh Clemson, etc. The state of NC considers itself too good for the rest of the South. Maybe we could move their capital to Pittsburgh?

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Waaah? I've lived in GA, SC, NC in the South and the state


Dec 9, 2013, 6:30 PM

of NC has perfectly no bragging rights when it comes to people or the state or the culture, or whatever. I might concede the Outer Banks as the best of the GA/SC/NC coast, but I'll take Charleston, Savannah, or even Atlanta as destination cities over any city in NC any day, any year, any.....

And when it comes to football, those 4 schools haven't earned any special bragging rights within the ACC. But. There IS basketball. And I guess they see that sport as the dominating one, eh?

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The basketball tourneys in Atl set records for attendance


Dec 9, 2013, 6:59 PM [ in reply to The ACC doesn't want to play in Atlanta anyway. ]

Swofford is lots of things, but willing to walk away from money at it.

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Re: ACCCG venue problem - can it be solved?


Dec 9, 2013, 6:07 PM

Yes, pretty easily. Put the ACCCG on FRIDAY afternoon. That will give them time to get ready for the SECCG the next day, moving that game to 8pm. Would be a chore but can be done. Plenty of hotels in Atl. Unless you get Clemson and/or VT or NC in the game, the attendance in Charlotte is always going to stink. Realignment might help insure CU in the game more often which would help attendance but I doubt powers that be will let that happen.

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The venue is fine ... ideal in fact. Most match-ups stink.


Dec 9, 2013, 6:12 PM

Re-alignment could help that issue, but there is nothing wrong with Charlotte for the game when the right teams are there.

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Venue is not the issue. Crappy teams for our division to


Dec 9, 2013, 6:15 PM

play is the problem.

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Missouri did not travel well to the SEC-CG.


Dec 9, 2013, 7:29 PM

Championship games have problems selling tickets unless the participating teams are less then 250 miles from the venue.



Duke and WF will never sell tickets, even if the game is played in their own stadiums.


Otherwise, just find a location that is within 250 miles of BC, Syracuse, Pitt, L-ville, VA Tech, UVA, UNC, NCST, CU, GT, FSU, and Miami and you will have your solution.

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North vs South


Dec 9, 2013, 7:37 PM

If you aligned the Divisions North and South

South:
Miami, FSU, GT, CU, NCST, UNC, Duke


North:
BC, Syracuse, Pitt, L-ville, UVA, VA Tech, WF.



On even years the venue would be Jacksonville, FL.
on odd years the venue would be Pittsburgh, PA.

This would help ensure that at least one participate is within 250 miles of the venue.

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it was a really good crowd Sat and it was Duke vs FSU


Dec 9, 2013, 11:28 PM

if you get Duke vs BC or something really weird like that then you have a problem(but that would be a problem anywhere) but the locals are doing a good job in Charlotte showing even with some crappy weather conditions at times over the last few years--

Tampa was like 45-50 degrees when Clemson went a few years back and CU vs GT had a far worse turnout than FSU vs. DUke in CLT.

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