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To all you "conference" people, especially the coots...
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Dec 28, 2023, 6:23 PM
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Clemson doesnt need the ACC to do anything. We ARE the ACC. Clemson wins Championships. We carry the conference.
I hope the ACC loses every bowl game, hate 'em all.
Do you think Alabama and Georgia care about the SEC?
They leave it to bottom feeders like South Carolina
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Yes, I think Bama and IGA care about the SEC
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Dec 28, 2023, 6:27 PM
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No, I don’t think who I “pull for” changes the outcome.
Yes, conference wins matter. Maybe not in bowl games, but they shape perception which shapes ranking, which shapes SOS, which lends itself to who gets in and who doesn’t.
You don’t have to like it, but conference matters. If it didn’t, everyone would be happy to stay in ACC.
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Re: Yes, I think Bama and IGA care about the SEC
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Dec 28, 2023, 6:40 PM
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Not really.
It's very rare that I pull for Tennessee, Auburn, LSU, Bama, or Florida, and I usually have a bit of a chuckle when they lose. Probably every UGA fan I know feels about the same way. Teams like Ole Miss, Miss St, Ark, Kentucky, Missouri, or Tex A&M don't really move the needle for me one way or the other.
Understanding that a conference is strong is different from "pulling for" the other teams in that conference.
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The SEC cared big time when undefeated Aub was left out
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Dec 28, 2023, 7:48 PM
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with for undefeated Tex and USC.
From that point on, the SEC propaganda machine has just meant more
And you’re right, you may not pull for individual teams that you mentioned, but you know you need your conference perception to be strong or you get left out.
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Re: The SEC cared big time when undefeated Aub was left out
Dec 29, 2023, 8:45 AM
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Do you mean 2004? That was Oklahoma and USC - not Texas. But either way, I wasn't too heartbroken over Auburn being left out. Quite the contrary.
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if Clemson is better than Scar because they hold a 62% win %age
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Dec 29, 2023, 9:40 AM
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what is the SEC in comparison to the ACC
the SEC is 62% win% and pretty close to that for the last 50years
** it's not propaganda . it's just reality.
we have to stop spreading / echo chambering fake news . The ACC is not good and Clemson needs out asap
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Might need to cut back on the eggnog junior
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Dec 28, 2023, 6:34 PM
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Re: To all you "conference" people, especially the coots...
Dec 28, 2023, 6:42 PM
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SEC does have several better teams in football .
Clemson can only represent themselves.
They do a good job
Playing tomorrow in their 50th post season.
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Re: To all you "conference" people, especially the coots...
Dec 28, 2023, 6:47 PM
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Sorry RedDawg, but outside of UGA fans, you have very few fans.
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Re: To all you "conference" people, especially the coots...
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Dec 28, 2023, 7:20 PM
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The conference arguement is simple. Would you rather beat good or bad teams? Why does Clemson and FSU want to get out of the ACC? If the quality of football was like the SEC, the ACC would have a better TV contract. Why would you want an ACC team you played this year to lose the other games. Everytime a team you played losses, it diminishes your win or exacerbates your loss. Have you ever heard a coach bragg about beating a bunch of bad teams? When the ACC does good against other conferences, people on this board will bragg about the ACC. When the ACC does bad, they say they only care about Clemson and could care less about the rest of the conference. If and when the ACC ship sinks and you don't have a life raft, you go down with the rest of the ACC.
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Re: To all you "conference" people, especially the coots...
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Dec 28, 2023, 7:41 PM
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Very true. It hurts but we need to see Nancy State win this bowl game.
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Re: ACC has a winning record vs. SEC this year...
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Dec 28, 2023, 10:17 PM
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Well one thing that certainly didn’t help was FSU struggling to beat Louisville right after Louisville lost to Kentucky. This was mentioned over and over. And I assure you an undefeated SEC champ will never miss the top 4 because of an injured QB. The reputation of your conference impacts the value of your record. And there is resentment if it’s felt you skated on a weak schedule. Resentment that will be used against you when possible.
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Can also look at the 1st round picks that come from that conference annually****
Dec 29, 2023, 10:07 AM
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This is just a dumb mindset
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Dec 28, 2023, 10:08 PM
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It's not about "liking" them. You want the teams you play against to win as many of their other games as possible (unless they're in direct position to knock you out of a postseason spot). The reason for this is because it improves your ranking and gives you more credibility. And I'm seeing a lot of people responding to that by saying "well let's just go undefeated" or "let's just win the conference every year." That's a stupid argument. Look, I wanna go 12-0 and win the ACC each year as much as anybody. But the point is, if Clemson has to be perfect every year to make the playoff, but teams in other conferences have much greater margin for error and can get away with losing multiple games, that puts Clemson at a competitive disadvantage, and none of us should want that. You don't want to have to fall back on that type of protection, but you want it to be there when you need it. I don't give a rip about the other ACC teams, I just generally want them to win so that it makes Clemson look better.
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And anyone who can't see that logic is an idiot!!***
Dec 28, 2023, 10:32 PM
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Another competitive disadvantage...
Dec 29, 2023, 10:15 AM
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is the income at their disposal and that will eventually become more apparent as they stack $40 mill per year more than us just for showing up-gonna be 3 tax brackets between us
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Re: To all you "conference" people, especially the coots...
Dec 29, 2023, 8:50 AM
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Did you really mean to say you hope all ACC teams
but one lose? 'Cause if you want our Tigers to lose
then you best go find another board, and another
hole to crawl back into.
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Re: To all you "conference" people, especially the coots...
Dec 29, 2023, 10:10 AM
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I'm not a conference homer. I don't pull for other conference teams and I'm sure most Bama and UGA folks don't either. But, BAMA and UGA are not who they are without the SEC.
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