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Rival Killer [3038]
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A Test of GOP Spine (RFK Jr Chapter)....
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Jan 30, 2025, 8:45 AM
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I'm sure that most of the Republicans Senators know that RFK Jr is not qualified to be in charge of the HHS, and in fact is dangerous in that role, due to his extreme views that he's expressed numerous times in public.
What I'm unsure about is how many of them are too afraid to vote their conscience. They will get an extreme amount of pressure from the White House. And some of them are afraid of the MAGA voting base.
If enough of them don't show some spine in this situation, this bodes very badly for the next four years, as they will be put in these types of situations repeatedly.
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Re: A Test of GOP Spine (RFK Jr Chapter)....
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Jan 30, 2025, 8:55 AM
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While Kennedy has some good ideas on attacking obesity, attempting to address chronic diseases and improve the quality of the foods we ingest, on balance he's got some crazy totally unsubstantiated views on other issues and I would be a hard no if I had a vote.
Hopefully Cassidy, an MD from LA, votes no along with a few more. Will Fetterman vote yes or other Dems?
Ben Carson would be a much better choice and there are many other actual Republicans that could capably fill that spot.
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Regardless of political leanings, just have someone qualified
Jan 30, 2025, 8:59 AM
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in this role and not a yes man lackey.
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Having "a yes man lackey" is the point.***
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Jan 30, 2025, 11:03 AM
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Are you qualified to determine that he isn't qualified?***
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Jan 30, 2025, 9:08 AM
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Paw Warrior [4693]
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Re: Are you qualified to determine that he isn't qualified?***
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Jan 30, 2025, 9:17 AM
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Now that is a fair question!
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Orange Phenom [14730]
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Silly rabbit - haven't you learned?? Anyone Trump nominates
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is an automatic "not qualified" to most on the left. The mere fact that they even speak to or support the orange man is an automatic disqualifier...
Apparently the left thinks Trump is only supposed to pick a cabinet of folks that will refuse to enforce his agenda, uphold the Swamps bureaucratic status quo, and backstab Trump at every opportunity.
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TigerNet Icon [149057]
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Oh, good god, stop being so dramatic.
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Jan 30, 2025, 9:59 AM
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The SoD has managerial experience roughly equivalent to running an Aldi's, but hey, he's "shaking things up!" in his new role managing 3,400,000 people. RFK's views are well documented, particularly on vaccines--not just Covid, ALL vaccines. That by itself is more than enough to judge his qualifications for the role.
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Orange Phenom [14730]
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Pot meet kettle - guess I should have put a trigger
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Jan 30, 2025, 10:46 AM
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warning on that post cause you seem pretty "dramatic" in your rant.
"Qualified" is apparently in the eyes of the beholder of which we don't agree. The Constitution doesn't lay out qualifications for cabinet positions other than Presidential nomination and Senate advise and consent.
Just because you and your ideological echo chamber thinks someone is qualified or unqualified doesn't make it true. That's your opinion but not a statement of fact. But if the minority opposition party's "qualified"were the determining factor we wouldn't have had the gang of incompetent village idiots who occupied Biden's recently departed cabinet.
Welcome to the "elections have consequences" aspect of our Constitutional Republic.
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Everything about this, on BOTH sides, is opinion.
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Jan 30, 2025, 10:53 AM
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Including your incredibly thin argument that an anti-vaxxer is "qualified" to lead HHS. "Ideological echo chambers", indeed. At least one of the two sides in this case is supported by science, and if you're still not quite clear on it, it's not the side that believes polio vaccines don't work and that vaccines cause autism.
I'm sure you were a big supporter of Michelle Obama's efforts to revamp school lunches, yes? Oh, you weren't? But why not? We can't have the gubmint telling us what we can and can't eat, because By God, this is AMURICA.
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Orange Phenom [14730]
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Quite frankly I've not really made any specific argument on here for RFK Jr....
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Jan 30, 2025, 11:34 AM
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At least none that I can recall.
But if you want my opinion I certainly don't think RFK Jr. is any less qualified than past HHS folks. He.ll our last HHS Secretary couldn't accept their own male biology (talk about denying science) but was allowed to run HHS because that is who Biden wanted.
Do I want RFK Jr.?? Sure - I have no problem with RFK Jr. but I'm not a die hard Bobby Kennedy acolyte either. I do think he brings forth some important issues for discussion/debate that no one else has dared to do. For example - I too look around and see a lot more obese people (particularly children) in our country than existed when I was young. Why is that?? Can we not even discuss the possibility that the stuff going into our food or injecting into our bodies is causing it?? But if RFK Jr. isn't confirmed I'm not going to go on some tirade about it either.
But in a hopeful sign - I'm glad you are finally taking a step in not wanting the Gubmit to dictate what you can/can't do. Who knows - maybe before long you will actually oppose the Democratic Party's never ending desire for more Government regulation, consolidating more power at the Federal level, and growing the Government bureaucracy in order to dictate everything in our society from light bulbs to the type cars we can drive. Maybe...dare I say it... you will eventually vote Republican.
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The irony is palpable***
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Jan 30, 2025, 11:39 AM
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The food industry feeds us cheap, unhealthy garbage.
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Jan 30, 2025, 11:47 AM
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You want the government to step in and interfere with the free market, and dictate to food producers what they can and cannot push to the American population? And Democrats are the ones with the neverending desire for government regulation?
No, I think the truth here is that both sides agree on the problem(s) and are looking towards similar solutions, but you and your ilk will scream from mountaintops if Democrats even mention regulating the food industry. But somehow, it's heroic if Trump's head of HHS spearheads the program.
There's a word for this.
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Tiger Titan [47689]
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He's a leftist conspiracy nut job who has dangerous theories on health
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Jan 30, 2025, 12:39 PM
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And you know he is and does.
The only reason he's been offered this job is because the Dems rejected him and he bent the knee to Trump, a man he used to absolutely trash back when he was a Dem. He hates Trump.
Hell, if you're a Republican, you should want the Dems to still claim RFK Jr. because he's an embarrassment to any team he's on.
This is simply a #### you to the Democratic Party. All of y'all know he isn't fit for this job, but now it's just become about who will be loyal to Trump and "score points".
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Clemson Icon [27325]
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As compared to THIS...? Who's the more obvious "nut job" in their "theories"?
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Jan 30, 2025, 2:39 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rachel_Levine
And NOW you decide it's time to worry... What a fractured joke you are. Why was IT offered job?
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Top TigerNet [30150]
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Honest question
Jan 30, 2025, 3:16 PM
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What "theories" of hers do you think are crazy? I'm interested if it is more than just your general disdain for trans folks.
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Re: Quite frankly I've not really made any specific argument on here for RFK Jr....
Jan 30, 2025, 3:48 PM
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At least none that I can recall.
But if you want my opinion I certainly don't think RFK Jr. is any less qualified than past HHS folks. He.ll our last HHS Secretary couldn't accept their own male biology (talk about denying science) but was allowed to run HHS because that is who Biden wanted.
Do I want RFK Jr.?? Sure - I have no problem with RFK Jr. but I'm not a die hard Bobby Kennedy acolyte either. I do think he brings forth some important issues for discussion/debate that no one else has dared to do. For example - I too look around and see a lot more obese people (particularly children) in our country than existed when I was young. Why is that?? Can we not even discuss the possibility that the stuff going into our food or injecting into our bodies is causing it?? But if RFK Jr. isn't confirmed I'm not going to go on some tirade about it either.
But in a hopeful sign - I'm glad you are finally taking a step in not wanting the Gubmit to dictate what you can/can't do. Who knows - maybe before long you will actually oppose the Democratic Party's never ending desire for more Government regulation, consolidating more power at the Federal level, and growing the Government bureaucracy in order to dictate everything in our society from light bulbs to the type cars we can drive. Maybe...dare I say it... you will eventually vote Republican.
You sir, are likely one of those MAGAites that will goo his grave wondering how we went from a democracy to a Russian acolyte.
You will deserve the ravages of no Social Security, no Medicare, no post office, and no further elections. And TheRump's Depression. I hope you can afford food and you don't die from measles or move into an iron lung.
Good luck. Most people who voted for TheRump will need to be rich or have extremely good luck to maintain the life standards we had in 2024 and before.
(Maybe you're a billionaire waiting on the huge taxcut coming to you?)
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Re: Quite frankly I've not really made any specific argument on here for RFK Jr....
Jan 30, 2025, 6:09 PM
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It’s a pretty simple explanation why kids are more obese other than fast food. TECHNOLOGY. We didn’t have cell phones, games, laptops etc. Not many couch potatoes back then. We were outside playing games and riding bikes all day. Getting exercise. Btw, you never answered his question about “Big Mike” as the clowns call her.
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Thats seems purposely obtuse and trying to make a point
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Jan 30, 2025, 11:01 AM
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that’s not there. Anyone can be nominated, but our elected officials should have the common sense to not confirm candidates who lack the experience to perform the job.
Say you’re having back surgery. Do you want a 2nd year med student to do it or someone with years of spinal surgery experience?
Flying to ATL, because face it, we all have to go through there to get anywhere. Do you want someone with a simple PPL with a few years under his belt in a Cessna or someone with an ATP cert that’s has hundreds of hours and cert in that particular passenger plane you are on.
You can minimize the likelihood of error by the choices made. What is obvious, is that the administration is encouraging the likelihood of error with these choices and promoting chaotic outcomes.
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What is obvious is your incessant BS... You must have been a Levine lover.***
Jan 30, 2025, 2:41 PM
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Your opinion dont count, Stubby.
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Jan 30, 2025, 5:49 PM
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Mainly because you never have one, instead you nanny nanny boo boo posts you don’t like. Act your age.
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Re: Pot meet kettle - guess I should have put a trigger
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warning on that post cause you seem pretty "dramatic" in your rant.
"Qualified" is apparently in the eyes of the beholder of which we don't agree. The Constitution doesn't lay out qualifications for cabinet positions other than Presidential nomination and Senate advise and consent.
Just because you and your ideological echo chamber thinks someone is qualified or unqualified doesn't make it true. That's your opinion but not a statement of fact. But if the minority opposition party's "qualified"were the determining factor we wouldn't have had the gang of incompetent village idiots who occupied Biden's recently departed cabinet.
Welcome to the "elections have consequences" aspect of our Constitutional Republic.
So, you are saying, "Just like TheRump who has no knowledge of running a govt," we should approve every MAGA-Idiot that bends a knee and pledges fealty to NEW KING.
The next time you need your car repaired, you don't you take it to a Chiropractor??
Perhaps you can find a Chiropractor that does car repair and doesn't believe in sparkplugs, engine oiln or air filters. And windshield wipers.
Did you know that slowing polio vaccines for children will increase the rise of polio for middle-aged and elders?
If you didn't know that, shame on you. You are obviously watching FoxFakeNews.
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Re: I was fine with Rubio, and a few others he's nominated....
Jan 30, 2025, 10:39 AM
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Did you vaccinate your kids with those vaccines?***
Jan 30, 2025, 10:41 AM
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Re: Did you vaccinate your kids with those vaccines?***
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I'm pretty confused by your answer.
Jan 30, 2025, 10:55 AM
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You want a guy who wants to outlaw ALL vaxes, but you vaccinated your kids.
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Weird, right?
Jan 30, 2025, 10:59 AM
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An American citizen making decisions for his family and not just following whatever some fuckwad on TV in a senate hearing says?
Far out, dude.
The next existential threat we need to tackle in this country is the complete and utter absence of critical thinking capacity amongst our citizens. No idea how to do that, though.
I think nuking the media and the department of Education would be a good start.
Also - he does not want to "outlaw ALL vaxes". You got got by the simulation.
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It's a little silly watching y'all scramble and twist to defend RFK Jr.
Jan 30, 2025, 12:43 PM
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-Y'all know he's a leftist Dem.
-Y'all know he deep down hates Trump.
-Y'all know his theories and ideas are whackadoodle.
-Y'all know he's crazy.
The ONLY, and I mean the absolute ONLY, reason y'all are offering any kind of defense in him is because stating otherwise would be admitting Trump is making a bad mistake. That's it. He swore loyalty to Trump. If he were still claiming to be a Dem and trashing Trump like he used to, you'd be joining everyone else here to state how unqualified and crazy he is.
Or, better yet, if he had been Biden's pick for this job, y'all would have trashed him. Period.
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Top TigerNet [30023]
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You still blasting me with this?
Jan 30, 2025, 1:23 PM
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Or are we in a more reasonable position of understanding now? This was posted prior to below and is the typical Cat simulation veteran binary rage bait type response lol.
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Tiger Titan [47689]
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No, we are in a more reasonable position of understanding
Jan 30, 2025, 1:56 PM
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But you have unfortunately latched on to the myths he spreads, so that's not good. But that presents another problem.
This was posted prior to below and is the typical Cat simulation veteran binary rage bait type response lol.
This is silly and dumb.
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Nope... The 'italics' is dead on.***
Jan 30, 2025, 2:43 PM
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Re: I'm pretty confused by your answer.
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He doesn’t want to outlaw vaccines. He wants studies done to make them safer, if possible. No one is going to outlaw vaccines. He’s said this repeatedly.
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They have to have something to rage on... (He's a traitor).***
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Re: What Dawghater23 believes < DO Opposite = Prosper..***
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Re: A Test of GOP Spine (RFK Jr Chapter)....
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mission statement
"The mission of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is to enhance the health and well-being of all Americans, by providing for effective health and human services and by fostering sound, sustained advances in the sciences underlying medicine, public health, and social services."
how is he unqualified
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BECAUSE HES NOT A TRANNY!!***
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Re: A Test of GOP Spine (RFK Jr Chapter)....
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Screw that. We want RFK. So do the voters that voted for the person who won the election. Maybe you missed it.
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Lulz.
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Jan 30, 2025, 9:55 AM
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You already know the answer to this. We've all watched what happens when Republicans cross The Donald for the past 8 years. It's political suicide.
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Hear me out
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Jan 30, 2025, 10:37 AM
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RFK Jr is a lefty. Trump promises him HHS to get the endorsement
Senate doesn't confirm. Trump keeps his promise to RFK Jr
Senators keep lefty out
All of GOP smiles. This is being presented as theory not fact
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Folks just need to watch his interview
Jan 30, 2025, 10:38 AM
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Re: Folks just need to watch his interview
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I was wondering when he would stop pulsating at his confirmation
#model of health
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Look at this way
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Jan 30, 2025, 10:44 AM
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And there are a lot of people who disagree with this position for a plethora of reasons, and that's perfectly fine....
BUT.
Whatever we've been doing, isn't working. Full stop. I'd like to think we can all hold sweaty palms and nod in unison that there are some absolutely critical issues regarding the American populace's health.
What strikes me is odd is the widespread (muthafuckinpanic) defense of the status quo that got us here.
Do I agree with everything RFK Jr says? No.
Do I agree with what he's stating is his objective? 1,000%.
So whoever is "qualified" by whatever definition your fact checkers and government officials and status-quo bottom feeders have produced can promptly choke on a fat ####.
The people voted for this. The people need some change - whether this be the silver bullet or not, notwithstanding.
So get on board or get the #### out of the way. Big Pharma, Big Ag, Big Food - we comin. Get ######.
Or we're not. And we continue doing what we're doing, which objectively, by the data presented, is absolutely failing the American people.
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"Insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result"
Jan 30, 2025, 11:48 AM
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The less than half the country that lost the election seem to believe having DC Swamp pedigreed "qualified" people is going to pull us out of our current tailspin.
The current bunch may not pull us out of the tailspin either but at least they give us a chance at trying something different as opposed to the DC Swamps faux "change" they just put the same old politicos and credentialed academics in charge.
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"Whatever we've been doing, isn't working. Full stop.".....
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So, even if I totally bought that - which I don't - it's still not a good reason to nominate an anti-vaxx kook. Vaccines are one of the good things our government has done in recent decades. If you hate what HHS has done in the past, you don't try and hurt one of the things they've actually done well.
If I were teaching my daughter to drive a car, and having trouble getting her to understand rules of the road, and I got to a point where I thought "whatever we've been doing, isn't working"....I wouldn't then turn around say, "OK, our next step is to drive the car over a cliff, because that's doing something different."
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How do you not buy that?
Jan 30, 2025, 12:55 PM
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What data are you looking at stating our level of health is acceptable? And what are you comparing it against?
It's my position that the probability of him coming out and "outlawing vaccines" is sub 1%. That's not in his strategy, based on what I've read and listened to. I'll happily eat crow if I'm wrong here, but that's my assessment and my position.
If we can't align on the state of Americans' health then we won't align on much else (which is as expected based on other content you've put out over the past few quarters). And that's fine. Boots need lickin.
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Again...
Jan 30, 2025, 12:44 PM
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If RFK Jr. had been Biden's pick for this job, y'all would have gone nuts trashing him. And rightfully so.
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there you go again
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setting up your binary argument and if I don't fit in the 0 bucket then I'm a 1.
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Re: there you go again
Jan 30, 2025, 12:55 PM
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Name five reasons he's qualified and name five stances you 100 percent agree with that he has.
There's your chance to make me look stupid.
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Re: there you go again
Jan 30, 2025, 1:00 PM
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Ban Red dye 40
Stop spraying ####### food w/ glyphosate
Stop GMO seed programs
Eliminate regulatory capture of medical and food governing agencies
Do not administer ozempic to 6 year olds - good ####### lord
Eliminate seed oils
Recalibrate nutritional guidelines and focus on nutrition for the youth
add gym memberships, nutritional coaching, etc. type #### to medicaid/medicare
just right off the cuff from the memory bank.
this book:
They're both heavily involved with him - or at least they were in October / November. They put out some great stuff - bro and sis combo.
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Tiger Titan [47689]
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Well, hats off, at least you got em
Jan 30, 2025, 1:09 PM
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Although they're questionable...
-Red Dye 40 is safe; you're thinking #3
-Glyphosate has conflicting studies on harm
-The world starves without GMOs
-I'll at agree on the regulatory capture but that's a small correct stance vs. his crazy ones.
-Seed oils are fine, and you and he are sounding more like you want the fed to police and intrude on our lives.
-Not if RFK does it since he believes conspiracies, but yes, let's do that.
-Add gym memberships? So... more spending? The stuff y'all just celebrated Trump halting?
RFK's stances on vaccines is enough to give him the boot, and that's just a little bit. But thank you for at least having items you agree with, albeit many are buying into his incorrect theories.
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my B. red dye 40 is on the top of my head
Jan 30, 2025, 1:19 PM
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b/c I was buying icing yesterday for my daughters bday cake, and we forgot got make it. every single icing in the store - even the white ones - had red dye #40. I do think it's a carcinogen, but I don't know enough about it to die on the hill and eradicate what little of positive momentum we're making here.
and bro, stop it. go out to your mater patch, spray some glyphosate on them ####### and eat it one then. ain't no way in holy hades a substance that kills ####### everything it touches (besides GMOs) should have conflicting studies on harm.
if companies are producing things that harm society for a profit, disallow said things to happen. I'd envision a future where we could cheers a beer to this simple notion. seed oils, GMOs, etc. are toxic.
lead paint chips, for example.
to make you even more mad- I'm all about the regenerative farming movement. I think the subsidy to the big monocrop agricultural outfits to satisfy high fructose corn syrup requirements (for example) represent way more of a negative impact to our food supply chain then GMOs.
yes I want to get rid of all government assistance. HOWEVER. if we have it, do it right. I misspoke I think, the policy proposal from Casey and Callie was to have gym memberships and better nutritional requirements tied to food stamps. whatever it was - yes, I'm for that since we can't get rid of it.
I think his stances on vaccines are overblown simulation fodder, personally. Sure, he's advocated for a more critical review. But he's maintained their usefulness and place in a healthcare system. Very low probability of happening, and more of a distraction to the actual transformative stuff he (or anyone) could do in the HHS to boost American's health.
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Re: my B. red dye 40 is on the top of my head
Jan 30, 2025, 2:07 PM
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1. Plenty of studies conflict with ones that glyphosate is harmful. I'm not claiming one way or the other, but more needs to be learned.
2. I don't like the GMO concept, either, but I also know the world depends on it. It's just the boat we're in.
I think his stances on vaccines are overblown simulation fodder, personally. Sure, he's advocated for a more critical review. But he's maintained their usefulness and place in a healthcare system. Very low probability of happening, and more of a distraction to the actual transformative stuff he (or anyone) could do in the HHS to boost American's health.
Not really; read into his incident in Guam regarding anti vaxxing. It literally cost lives. He embraces the autism myth and works for a group that embraces it as well. This has been one of the most dangerous lies in American history. I agree; low probability of happening. But his misinformation is bad enough.
OKay, look, I'm not saying YOU would do this, but you know there are people who will believe any and all horse #### that comes out of the Trump administration, and if RFK JR is peddling garbage, they'll buy into it. That's dangerous.
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I left out my #1 position of his and key driver of why I voted
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Jan 30, 2025, 2:47 PM
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this cycle...let you rage bait me. You sly veteran you....
GET. RID. OF. PHARMA. ADS. ON. TV.
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That's one I couldn't agree with more
Jan 30, 2025, 2:54 PM
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No reason for it other than to drive up pharmaceutical company profits.
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i have to assume thats a pretty common position isnt it?***
Jan 30, 2025, 3:10 PM
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It does seem to be.
Jan 30, 2025, 3:19 PM
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But it ain't gonna happen. Too much money in it, for the Pharma folks, for the networks/media folks, for the ad folks.
Some faux grass roots lobby organization will be founded with a name like "Society for Medical Information Freedom" to disguise there cause. Piles of gold will be made, and we'll still be having this argument this time in 5 years.
With that said, the fact that I agree with RFK about something is by no means an endorsement of his outright dangerous take on vaccines.
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to raise you
Jan 30, 2025, 1:10 PM
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I voted for Trump b/c of RFK.
I'm not "pulling for RFK b/c of Trump".
and I really really really really really really really really really love his bitcoin position during the time he was running for el pres. If donnie adopts that I'll be done working in a few years.
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Actually, that's the CIRCLE and his fellow JERKERS.***
Jan 30, 2025, 2:51 PM
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I bet every time you post some dumb bullchit like this, you sit back in your
Jan 30, 2025, 5:54 PM
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chair and are all "THAT'LL get'em torqued!"
When in reality, nobody really gives a damnwhat you say.
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Probably so and for the same partisan reasons the Democrats would have
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Jan 30, 2025, 1:45 PM
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embraced RFK Jr. had Biden nominated him. Both sides do this partisan dance and why some are acting outraged that team red is lining up behind Trump's nominations is somewhat comical. Some act as if team blue didn't do the very same thing for Biden's nominees.
Presidential cabinet appointments/confirmations used to not be this way. I tend to look at the modern day fist fights over a President's cabinet choices more as an indictment of the shift in power of our modern Federal Government. If you want proof that the Federal Agencies have gained too much power look no further than the partisan "sky is falling" doomsday discussions of Presidential Cabinet confirmation hearings.
The vitriol over Cabinet nominations is an acknowledgment by Congress that the Federal bureaucracy makes so much de facto law through the regulatory state that whoever runs these agencies now has as much or even more lawmaking ability than your typical Congressmen. Over the decades, Congress has acquiesced so much of their power to the Federal bureaucracy that they will now fight tooth and nail to support or dispose of a nominee because they know the Regulatory State can pass/crush their own agendas. Congress has no one else to blame for this because they gave these Agencies the power to begin with.
Maybe the real answer is for Congress to reassert their legislative powers and severely limit the rule-making ability of Federal Agencies by taking much of it back to their own elected hands. Of course that would require Congress to actually stake out positions in written law and doing a lot of work instead of just relying on their team's chosen bureaucrat to do it for them.
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It's really interesting. I can tell you that, were I a Senator, I would have a
Jan 30, 2025, 10:46 AM
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really hard time voting in favor of RFK jr. For many of the reasons you mention.
Having said that, and as was mentioned above, people didn't vote for Trump to go along with flow. He campaigned on disruption, people voted for disruption, and so disruption, it appears, we shall get. Heck, the rumors that he would appoint RFK jr to this position were very strong before the election, and he won the election...this isn't even a surprise.
If he does get the nod, one can only hope that he will be open-minded and sensible enough not to throw any babies out with the bathwater. Conspiracies aside, there is a value in installing a leader that will ask out-of-the-box, uncomfortable questions to an establishment. Issues around food ingredients, for example. We would just have to hope that THAT component of his leadership brings more benefit than his outlandish beliefs bring harm, or that the organization can support the tough questions...as I would bet many in the organization do...and can effectively mitigate any crazy theories he wants explored. Additionally, Trump has shown a tremendous comfort level in firing people who aren't doing stuff that makes him look good, so it would not surprise me if RFK jr was fired 8 months after the appointment.
(as an aside...I wonder all the time...how do we NOW have issues with peanut allergies? That seems crazy to me...I mean, some people will say "we always had it and it didn't get as much attention" but it's literally banned from schools because kids with peanut allergies can literally die...THAT scenario surely didn't exist before...we weren't seeing kids randomly dying at school because their classmates had a PB&J)
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The anaphylactic reactions happen more often than men in womens sports.***
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Re: A Test of GOP Spine (RFK Jr Chapter)....
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Jan 30, 2025, 10:59 AM
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Pretty much every Biden nominee, no matter how kooky or unqualified, got unanimous support from Dems yet we have a thread pretending it's those culty Republicans who are the ones too afraid to stand up to the POTUS? Spare us the crocodile tears.
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Spine! Ha ha
Jan 30, 2025, 11:03 AM
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If they weren't #### their pants afraid of Trump we'd have a real sec def and a real head of intel. The only reason we don't have FL pedo boy as AG is cause he dropped out. We're done having qualified cabinet secretaries that ship has sailed.
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Let's break down what this man believes
Jan 30, 2025, 12:52 PM
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-Vaccines cause autism.
-COVID targeted whites and blacks, and was designed to avoid Asians and Jews
-Promotes moving to raw, unpasteurized milk
-Wireless tech causes cancer
-AIDS isn't caused by HIV
-Prescription drugs cause mass shootings
-That the 2004 election was stolen from John Kerry
-Is absolutely a 100 percent pro-choicer despite his lies that he's not now.
If you're sitting here claiming you agree with him and that he's qualified, you know you're lying. For some of you, you've posted very clearly in the past that anyone who is pro-choice is a murderer and shouldn't be in office.
The only reason he's being defended is due to new loyalty to Trump. That's it. There is no argument to the contrary.
Let's not even get into his brain worm and the dead bear...
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Yes, he's a nut...
Jan 30, 2025, 5:55 PM
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MAGA-world likes to talk about "Meritocracy".
Is RFK, Jr's nomination a result of a far-and-wide search for the best for that role?
Please. It's insulting to the American people.
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