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A couple things I would like to bring. First is CU BB.
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A couple things I would like to bring. First is CU BB.


Dec 3, 2015, 8:08 AM

In all of the years I have attended football, basketball and BB games by far Littlejohn is the least fan friendly place. If I were a recruit looking at Clemson Basketball attending a game I would not be impressed. Most have to concede we are a football school. And I am not sure CU has or will ever have the financial resources to compete with NC, Duke, Syracuse and other schools that have had years of success and has had an advantage over CU BB for 30 plus years.

You can fire BB but eventually IMO future coaches could see Clemson as a career killer. Kinda like the coots find themselves in football.

If Clemson fans want a better basketball program attend games or give your tickets to fans that will come. Help remove the negative cloud that has hovered over Clemson BB for years. Build a new fan friendly arena that will impress future recruits.

And for all of those who continue to post negative crap about Brad B , the program, the players , attendance etc.. offer up some positive solutions. It's easy to criticize but difficult to support the program when it needs positive support now more than ever.

And those of you who keep posting anything related a possible Clemson loss vs UNC Sat. Please post on another site. The coaches and players need fan support this week. Unless you have played football you don't understand how hard it is to play 10 consecutive weeks much less to go 12-0. There are only 2 undefeated teams and 6 1 loss teams in the top 25.

This has been an awesome season and I believe that Clemson will win Saturday. If don't believe we will win I would be glad to use your tickets.

And you negative posters please give it a rest at least until after the Christmas holiday season. Save it for 2016.

Sorry longer than I expected but I am so tired of people complaining about a 12-0 football team and a basketball team trying to get better as they bounce from LJ to Greenville eventually back to reminded LJ.

Tigers win Sat!!!!

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Re: A couple things I would like to bring. First is CU BB.


Dec 3, 2015, 8:14 AM

I dont know first hand but I've heard GT did a good job with their arena. Hopefully Rad being involved at CT now insures we do likewise.Seems like Brad is beginning to get attention from some more talented prospects. Hope this produces an upswing

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the new LJ


Dec 3, 2015, 8:29 AM

https://clemsontigers.exposure.co/littlejohn-coliseum-renovation-project

if you looked at the big analysis they did - the "building assessments..." here:

http://www.clemson.edu/facilities/campus-planning/ae-selections/H12-T032-SG.html

they compared three different college arenas (starts at page 64 of the pdf) - and the GT appeared to be the most comparable to the new LJ... called it "a very close example of the type of project envisioned for C.U...."

can't help but think that the new (improved) facilities - and the message that they send, the willingness to invest $$ in the program - will help recruiting

and the 'new' atmosphere, with more students closer to the court, could also spark some excitement for the program

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New LJ, fan support in coaches and players and patience then I think CU Bb


Dec 3, 2015, 8:50 AM

will head in the right direction.

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Littlejohn


Dec 3, 2015, 8:14 AM

I would agree that it is not fan friendly at all this season......



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Re: Littlejohn


Dec 3, 2015, 8:16 AM

do we bring our own hard hat or are they providing them? ;)

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Maybe for monster trucks, Monster Trucks, MONSTER TRUCKS!***


Dec 3, 2015, 8:39 AM [ in reply to Littlejohn ]



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Looks more like a place BUZZPAW could run a Process ;)***


Dec 3, 2015, 9:28 AM [ in reply to Littlejohn ]



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Want a positive basketball solution?


Dec 3, 2015, 8:15 AM

Fire CBB and hire someone else to run the program.

As for football, I'm not scared of losing...I think the Tigers will ho-slap the baby blues.

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Re: Want a positive basketball solution? Darn


Dec 3, 2015, 8:19 AM

I was going to guess sulfuric acid?

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Re: Want a positive basketball solution?


Dec 3, 2015, 8:22 AM [ in reply to Want a positive basketball solution? ]

Brownell will be here for another two years. Period fans screaming FIRE FIRE FIRE does no good right now.

I agree that in two years if things do not improve drastically a change should be made but it wont happen before then.

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it might do "them" good. are you being selfish? would you


Dec 3, 2015, 8:37 AM

mind asking GWPTiger® how his post made him feel? if it relieved some stress or brought a smile to his face, isn't that doing "good right now"?

people don't smile enough 117; have you tried it lately?

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Cool, and if in 2 years we're either stuck in the NIT


Dec 3, 2015, 8:55 AM [ in reply to Re: Want a positive basketball solution? ]

or worse, STILL not making the NIT, we're another 2 years down the road after 7-8 years of CBB.

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What solutions do you have to turn CU BB into a consitantly successful program???***


Dec 3, 2015, 8:58 AM



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what do you consider "consitantly successful"? top 20ish


Dec 3, 2015, 8:59 AM

each year?




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Hire a head coach that will run a successful program***


Dec 3, 2015, 9:10 AM [ in reply to What solutions do you have to turn CU BB into a consitantly successful program???*** ]



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Re: Hire a head coach that will run a successful program***


Dec 3, 2015, 9:10 AM

What is successful to you?

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i could post for you, if that would save you some time?***


Dec 3, 2015, 9:18 AM



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Re: i could post for you, if that would save you some time?***


Dec 3, 2015, 9:19 AM

Ill tmail you the log in info for one of my many scoks.

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awesome, i'll make the magic happen for you.


Dec 3, 2015, 9:24 AM

no homers

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I've answered that question many times***


Dec 3, 2015, 9:36 AM [ in reply to Re: Hire a head coach that will run a successful program*** ]



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Re: Cool, and if in 2 years we're either stuck in the NIT


Dec 3, 2015, 9:09 AM [ in reply to Cool, and if in 2 years we're either stuck in the NIT ]

Im just being realistic....

He wont be fired this year unless it was an absolute disaster. Looking at our product on the court so far this year that is not going to happen. His buy out is too large and he is playing every game away from LJ.

Next year will be his last if things dont improve.

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How the hell does this guy even have a buyout?


Dec 3, 2015, 3:19 PM

Just what insanity did we get handcuffed with because somebody found 1 guy with NBA talent?

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Dec 3, 2015, 12:11 PM [ in reply to Cool, and if in 2 years we're either stuck in the NIT ]

all that matters

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Re: You'll get to whine about being right,and in the end, that's


Dec 3, 2015, 12:13 PM

Our BB atmosphere will always be subpar without a student section on the sideline.

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Is that why recruiting has been subpar? Because of where


Dec 3, 2015, 12:17 PM

the student section is?

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no...recruiting sucks because we are Clemson BBall...It


Dec 3, 2015, 12:19 PM

is picking up

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We've always been Clemson BB, and yet we've had coaches


Dec 3, 2015, 12:21 PM

who could recruit in the past regardless of where the student section is situated.

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we've always struggled to maintain any success...I didn't


Dec 3, 2015, 12:28 PM

mention the student section, you must be confused

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We've struggled to maintain success because good


Dec 3, 2015, 12:31 PM

coaches like Barnes and OP leave and we replace them with guys like Shyatt and Brownell.

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In both cases, they walked because their run was over***


Dec 3, 2015, 12:40 PM



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OP's run was not over, he walked because


Dec 3, 2015, 12:44 PM

the fanbase was getting antsy over him not winning a tourney game and he chased a paycheck and an opportunity to build another program. He had a really good team had he come back another year, with big recruits coming in the next couple years. People like to say he left the cupboard bare but that's not the case.

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definitely over....no way he would have taken the team he


Dec 3, 2015, 3:04 PM

left to the NCAA

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No, I won't. I'll never be the guy who comes on here and


Dec 3, 2015, 12:20 PM [ in reply to You'll get to whine about being right,and in the end, that's ]

says "hey everyone I was right, go back and look at my post history." To the contrary, I'd much prefer to log in and say "hey everyone, I was wrong...CBB is doing a great job here and I hope he stays forever."

Do you think CBB is the answer for the success of our program? If so, what has he shown you in 5+ years to believe that's the case?

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yes...progress***


Dec 3, 2015, 12:26 PM



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Progress? Year 1 he makes the NCAA Tourney and wins a game


Dec 3, 2015, 12:29 PM

A couple years ago he makes a run in the NIT. Last year in his 5th season he doesn't even get to the NIT. To me that sounds like the antithesis of progress.

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we'll just have to agree to disagree I suppose...If you


Dec 3, 2015, 12:38 PM

didn't see the talent drop off coming after Stith and Grant graduated, not much I can do for you....We were in a hole, it appears we are coming out of it...Taken longer than I wanted, but if you go to games, you can see an improvement

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What's your issue with this year's team?***


Dec 3, 2015, 12:30 PM [ in reply to Want a positive basketball solution? ]



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My issue is the head coach and the fact that so far it looks


Dec 3, 2015, 12:34 PM

like a wash, rinse, repeat scenario. The last several years we've seen our team lose games in November and December. The team makes some progress and beats a Pitt or Syracuse in ACC play. Then ultimately the team goes on a really bad run and we either get stuck with a bid to the NIT or worse and we don't even get an NIT bid. So far losses to UMass and Minnesota would suggest we're following the same pattern.

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We looked good in the Minnesota game...would you rather


Dec 3, 2015, 12:43 PM

a creampuff schedule and a 13-0 record heading into conference play? That hasn't worked out in the past either

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By not worked out, do you mean those times we made the


Dec 3, 2015, 12:46 PM

NCAA Tourney? It's not like Minnesota and UMass are all that great so far. Minny lost to Temple and Texas Tech and Umass got beat soundly by Creighton. Let's not pretend we lost to potential Final 4 teams.

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who's pretending either are Final Four worthy?***


Dec 3, 2015, 3:06 PM



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Re: We looked good in the Minnesota game...would you rather


Dec 3, 2015, 12:48 PM [ in reply to We looked good in the Minnesota game...would you rather ]

Really? If I'm not mistaken a great start was a staple for OP. I also remember 3 straight NCAA tourneys during his tenure...

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OP feasted on cupcakes too...I remember starting 17-0 and


Dec 3, 2015, 3:09 PM

missing the Tourney one season

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New pt. guard bringing fast pace back and he has better


Dec 3, 2015, 12:22 PM

shooters around him. Big improvement over Rod Hall's walking slow pace - football was always his future.

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Re: A couple things I would like to bring. First is CU BB.


Dec 3, 2015, 12:40 PM

I have some doubts that BB attendance will pick up significantly when the new LJ goes on line. With virtually all games on TV or streaming, don't think folks who live in G'ville, G'wood and such places in the area are going to travel in rainey, cold weather and park several hundred yards away to attend. Its too convenient to watch on a large screen TV in the comfort of home. Had season tickets for several years in the late 70s and early 80s while living in G'ville. Fewer games were on TV then so there was no other option to watch games. I may be wrong, but it will be interesting to see how the attendance will be affected.

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Improved faster better shooting team will bring in students


Dec 3, 2015, 12:48 PM

and locals - no problem! And it looks like we have that now - just have to improve on d, which I know Brownell can coach! GO TIGERS

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I'm a very casual hoops fan, but I can tell you


Dec 3, 2015, 3:16 PM

I went to more games when that Purnell guy was coaching. Energy was much better and the team was much better. This guy we got to replace him plays a very boring brand of basketball and wins a lot less. I'd like to see us get a coach who can run some type of fun style of basketball. I'd be much more willing to go to games at that point. Right now even if we're on tv I may only watch a half or so before I fall asleep.

I'm sure you basketball enthusiasts are going to tell me why I'm wrong, but I can tell you some of my CU friends who are also fervent about football and casual about basketball feel the same way. Just something to consider.

And spare me the "you're not a real Clemson fan" garbage. I haven't been to a women's soccer game or a tennis match, either. So unless you make it to every tennis match and get excited for women's golf, cool your jets. Being a diehard hoops fan isn't a requirement for being a CU fan.

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