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Orange Blooded [2200]
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Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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We were invited to dinner with another couple in Charlotte. The couple is loaded $$. They picked the place. We showed up at their house with a $50 bottle of wine and some other gifts as a thank you for taking us to dinner.
It was a very “ritzy” joint, and I purposely avoided ordering add-ons such as salad, etc. They enjoyed crab cake appetizers, wine and other drinks.
When the meal was over, the fellow says “split 50-50”? I was bowled over to see a $900 bill, not including the tip. It’s Christmas, so with tip the bill was $1200. I’ve never been so stunned. I’m a guy that packs sandwiches for my lunch, and keep ramen noodles in the cupboard.
Ah well: I guess I sound like Scrooge, but this hurt.
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 25, 2024, 11:49 PM
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I'd be p..... too,you're not wrong.i would not of split the bill either!
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Valley Legend [12106]
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Dang. That sucks.***
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Dec 25, 2024, 11:58 PM
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Top TigerNet [32716]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 12:26 AM
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Would not have split 50/50. Would have said, you invited us for dinner. That usually means you pay. So you pay. But if that is not what you are going to do, i will pay for what we had. And I would have had waiter bring me my bill.
And I would never go to dinner with that couple again.
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Orange Beast [6285]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 12:32 AM
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You were going out to dinner…so unless they explicitly said they were covering the meal, you shouldn’t have assumed they were going to pick up the check. That was an easy one to avoid. Lesson learned.
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Orange Phenom [14763]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 8:58 AM
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OP said they were invited to dinner.
If I invite you to lunch, I am definitely picking up the tab.
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Ultimate Tiger [33089]
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Hey - you wanna go grab dinner ?
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Dec 26, 2024, 2:18 PM
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Invited - yes
Expecting me to pay for it all - no
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Dynasty Maker [3416]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 12:37 AM
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How do you think this guy became loaded?
Just kidding! I would be ticked off also. If I had that much money I would be paying for everything. Just downright embarrassing. The fact that he ordered an appetizer and drinks etc and still wanted to split was ridiculous also.
When we’ve covered the bill I’ve always told the others to order whatever they want because like you I’ve ordered less because I felt bad ordering the a la carte items along with the entree. And I definitely wanted dessert too and felt bad ordering it.
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Paw Warrior [5087]
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Once went out with a group of rich friends to an expensive
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Dec 26, 2024, 12:47 AM
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Steakhouse. I ordered very small, delcined appetizers, didnt partake in any alcohol to keep my bill down.
Then when it came time to pay I never got a check. I asked where it was and they told me that someone had taken care of it and we all just owe him $400. I about lost my mind.
I tried to argue without seeming cheap, but they all acted like since he ordered all the apps, wines, and shots (that i didnt drink) for the group of 15 we all should be responsible and not nitpick on how much are share was so we dont screw over the person who paid.
It sucked and I paid to keep the peace, but it was definitely a learning lesson for the future!
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Valley Legend [12827]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 1:33 AM
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You're definitely in the right. That is wild.
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Orange Immortal [65711]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 1:55 AM
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Was his name Tim?
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Asst Coach [834]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 3:59 AM
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Good lord how old are you? Grow up
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 4:27 AM
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I would NEVER have assumed the other couple would pay just because they invited us to dinner… no matter how loaded they are.
If you’re as frugal as me, you would’ve been scanning the menu for the cheapest entree and only ordered water to drink… even if you thought it was on the other guys dime.
I would’ve declined the 50/50 offer if didn’t have any of the extra appetizers and wine that the other couple was ordering. If you shared it with them, I think you’re on the hook for it too.
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Valley Legend [12827]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 7:44 AM
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He did eat less. He also didn't want to cause any issues and paid. That's the point of the story. He took the high road.
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Tiger Titan [47900]
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The point of the story seemed to be that he didnt think he should have to pay.
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Dec 26, 2024, 9:05 AM
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Yes, he took the “high road” in that he paid when he didn’t think he should have to.
Unless someone says ahead of time that it will be their treat, it should be assumed that it will be split 50/50.
Doing math at the table when the bill comes to try to figure out who had what is super annoying and in poor taste IMO. Assuming you’re adults and not broke high school or college kids, just split it evenly.
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Orange Phenom [14763]
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Re: The point of the story seemed to be that he didnt think he should have to pay.
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Dec 26, 2024, 9:14 AM
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I normally tell the waiter, separate checks please before the check comes. That relieves any assumption, embarrassment or tedious(awkward) division of the check.
Some folks don't drink alcohol or order appetizers. At times, those items could add up to a large portion of the bill.
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Valley Legend [12827]
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Re: The point of the story seemed to be that he didnt think he should have to pay.
Dec 26, 2024, 11:37 AM
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True. I would also assume that if I go to town and order and outrageous amount of stuff and drink like a fish as I am known to do that I would pay more. I have done it dozens upon dozens of times when I am around people that really don't drink. I don't stick them with half of my drinks.
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Top TigerNet [28081]
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Re: The point of the story seemed to be that he didnt think he should have to pay.
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Dec 26, 2024, 11:42 AM
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I always assume there will be separate checks unless otherwise stated. My wife doesn’t usually drink at restaurants because she wants to be the designated driver. We usually don’t eat a lot of appetizers or deserts. We don’t hang out with anyone who would expect to split the bill. And this should all be made clear at the time orders are placed.
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Valley Legend [12154]
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Tiger Spirit [9782]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 5:03 AM
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Perhaps they are not actually “loaded $$”
Just sayin.
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Dynasty Maker [3427]
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That's what I was thinking***
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Dec 26, 2024, 5:49 AM
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Head Coach [907]
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Re: That's what I was thinking***
Dec 26, 2024, 7:40 AM
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What is name of restaurant there? Not aware of one at $600/person without wine to push that high. I want to avoid it!
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All-TigerNet [5760]
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Re: That's what I was thinking***
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Dec 26, 2024, 7:50 AM
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My guess is the Red Lobster, that’s the only one I can think of. And they do not even serve flounder anymore
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Dynasty Maker [3173]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 7:46 AM
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Dang talk about a surprise....what a cheap bahstad dude is. I would have said I forgot my wallet🤣
We were invited to a swanky place in Greer for my fiancée's company giving my other friend some business, and they picked up the tab $600 later. I couldn't imagine getting stuck with that. I'd complain too!!!
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Valley Legend [12154]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 8:56 AM
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That’s Select. Will probably earn a Michelin Star.
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Dynasty Maker [3173]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 9:13 AM
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Yeah that's pricey as well, but this was L'incanto. We had a couple bottles of wine and a few bourbons....it adds up lol. I will say it was absolutely delicious.
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Rival Killer [2767]
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Ugh not a fan of Lincanto. And Select is hit or miss
Dec 26, 2024, 10:56 AM
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They are pros at running up your tab at Select too.
At the end of the day, we’re talking about Greer here. I would not expect much (quality of food, service, or atmosphere).
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Dynasty Maker [3173]
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Re: Ugh not a fan of Lincanto. And Select is hit or miss
Dec 26, 2024, 3:58 PM
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Well downtown Greenville is so overrated and too much of a pain with parking etc. I would rather shoot over to Greer any day. Not as Intimate as Stip Club which I loved, but we didn't need intimate with a group of 4. The filet I had was out of this world, maybe you got a crappy cut?
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Clemson Icon [25098]
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I would NEVER try to 50/50 anyone. Those folks are scum.***
Dec 26, 2024, 7:50 AM
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National Champion [8028]
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Yeah I have a friend that has started doing this lately
Dec 26, 2024, 4:39 PM
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I don’t know that it any big difference but I’m going to start asking for separate checks before he blurts it out again. We are meeting for dinner. Pay for your and your wife’s and we’ll pay for ours. The staff is accustomed to this and you’re saving them no work the way things are automated. We typically don’t order apps or dessert and often I might be drinking 1 or 2 $7 beers or house wine not multiple $17 specialty drinks.
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National Champion [7199]
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you could have been someone that went ALL IN
Dec 26, 2024, 8:09 AM
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last year after Tyler's phone call
and then the one that doubled down when Dabo was exclaimed you better this stock now
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National Champion [7199]
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if Clemson was a Stock , you better all you can buy right now***
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Dec 26, 2024, 8:09 AM
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Associate AD [1000]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 8:19 AM
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You should have already let the waiter, discreetly, that you were picking up the bill
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Starter [287]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 8:31 AM
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With money he doesn’t have?
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 8:29 AM
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I hate it when people say “split the bill”. No, I’ll pay for what we have… you pay for what you have.
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 8:41 AM
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I wouldn’t feel safe assuming someone else is paying. Normally when ordering we tell the waiter/waitress that the 2 of us are together. Then we pay for our part or one or the other couple picks up the bill. Expecting you to split the cost of the apps/desserts and alcohol when you didn’t have any was not cool.
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Valley Legend [12154]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 8:58 AM
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He didn’t assume the guy was paying. He ordered cheaply and stayed away from ads on. Read the post.
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Top TigerNet [28081]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 11:32 AM
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There were a lot of comments from people saying that since the other couple invited them, they should reasonably assume the other couple was paying. My response was part of the general discussion. Read the whole thread….
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Associate AD [1084]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 8:52 AM
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Been there. Never been out to eat again with those people
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Commissioner [1246]
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Slightly different take on this
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Dec 26, 2024, 8:53 AM
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When we are asked out for dinner, or when we invite others to go out with us there is never an assumption that the meal will be paid for by the person who set it up. Where did you get that idea?
Now, as for the 50/50 question, that can easily and quietly be avoided by telling the waiter right up front that you want a separate check.
A $600 meal does suck, but I wouldn’t blame your friend. Oh, I hope it was a great meal!
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Valley Legend [12154]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 8:53 AM
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Why not use honesty in that situation? I would have said there’s no way I’m splitting the bill 50/50 when you guys ordered 75% of the food. On top of that, there’s not a restaurant in Charlotte worth dropping $1200 in. There is no Michelin Star in NC. Shame on them this time. Don’t be afraid to speak up. Sorry his happened.
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Rival Killer [2767]
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Yeah, Id love to know the name of the restaurant
Dec 26, 2024, 10:59 AM
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You couldn’t do that much damage at Fahrenheit if you tried.
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All-Conference [414]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 9:00 AM
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I'd be out of my mind! That's infuriating.
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Commissioner [1246]
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30% tip?***
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Dec 26, 2024, 9:00 AM
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Tiger Titan [47900]
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Always assume it will be split 50/50 unless they make it clear ahead of time
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Dec 26, 2024, 9:01 AM
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that it’s their treat.
I do think it’s reasonable for the other couple to pay for all the wine since they drank it and you and your wife did not. I would never expect someone to pay for wine they didn’t drink.
Sorry you were stuck with a big bill you didn’t expect though.
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Re: Always assume it will be split 50/50 unless they make it clear ahead of time
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Dec 26, 2024, 11:35 AM
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Unless the restaurant has a policy that doesn’t allow separate checks, my assumption would be that the 2 couples would have separate checks. We usually let the waiter know when we order how the checks will be handled.
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All-Conference [414]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 9:04 AM
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The moment he said, "Split 50-50" he became Scrooge. Maybe he'll see the error of his ways and write you a check.
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Game Day Hero [4173]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 9:05 AM
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Only ever chop the bill with family or dear friends. Sorry that happened to you
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Playmaker [386]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 9:29 AM
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I am on your side. This is totally ridiculous, but you did the right thing to drive on. My husband and I have been in similar situations. It’s a strange world we live in.
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 10:25 AM
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That was not an invitation to dinner. An invitation usually means one does not provide anything.
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CU Guru [1542]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 11:27 AM
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I get being hurt by the price of a meal. Eating out anywhere is expensive. Shoot, eating food at home is getting to be expensive too. However, when a couple invites you out to dinner it is not an obligation for them to pay. The obligation is to speak out and tell the truth even if it might embarass you a bit. If a restaurant is too pricey you should speak up...just say, "Hey, can we go someplace else? I cannot afford this." Sometimes more weatlhy people get disconnected with how mucvh other people make and what they can spend. My boss used to do that with me and I eventually told him, "Hey Steve, I know you like fine food but I can't afford these places you want to go." This is what you should have done rather than assuming (or hoping) your friend would pick up the check. They will understand your honesty more than they will understand your resentment or pain in splitting a huge check. Next time (if there is one) just tell them...be honest. I have several friends that are multi-millionaires and I make it well known to them that I am not and there are limits to what I can afford if we are going to enjoy time together. I have been treated to some really nice things because I have been honest. Just because they are wealthy does not mean they won't like a hotdog or fried baloney sandwich either. It goes both ways.
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Orange Blooded [2200]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 2:10 PM
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Some of you asked, so:
The restaurant was Del Frisco’s.
Their bottle of wine was $200+, not counting their pre-dinner cocktail. I guess $1200 for four is typical for the 1%.
Some good advice was posted. Thanks all.
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Hall of Famer [8393]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 2:30 PM
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I don’t think I’ve ever expected anyone to pay for my dinner when I’m invited to a restaurant unless it’s for coporate event.
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 2:42 PM
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Not sure how close you are to the other couple. We have several friends that are far better off than we are financially. They would NEVER choose a place where I couldn't keep up.
If this was the first time we were going out with someone, I would have known the restaurant ahead of time and did a little recon. I would have been upfront with the couple and told them I couldn't handle such a pricey joint. I sure as H**l would not have swallowed $1200 just to save face. That would have given the other couple the window to say "our treat". At which point I would have said "I can't let you do that." I would like to think at that point we could agree on an affordable evening out.
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Paw Warrior [4921]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 2:51 PM
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That guy has no awareness of what’s going on around him or he would’ve noticed yall didn’t have add ons and wouldn’t have asked to split 50:50.
That was terribly rude on his part
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 3:04 PM
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I do not go for the 50/50 deal. I would have told him that I will get the waiter / waitress to give me a separate bill for what I ordered. People irritate me when they do that especially when they drink like a fish and I don't drink at all due to driving.
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Commissioner [1267]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
Dec 26, 2024, 3:48 PM
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Right before you ordered. You should've told the waiter/waitress this will be on a separate check. Then y'all ordered...$900-1200
. Nope not me
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Head Coach [907]
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Re: Trying not to be ticked off on Christmas.
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Dec 26, 2024, 4:56 PM
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Domino. That's on you. You had several chances to minimize or eliminate issues:
1. Don't try to hang out with those way over your head
2. Were they truly friends to begin with?
3. Scope out menu on line and add input on alternatives if necessary.
4. Ask waiter when ordering to split bill.
5. Who expects "a friend" asking to go out to foot the bill?
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