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Orange Blooded [2929]
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KY is all that is wrong with college basketball IMO
Apr 5, 2014, 10:57 PM
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6 of their current players are freshman that were 5 star recruits last year.
It seems like it would be annoying as a fan to cheer for all new players every year.
But I guess all the wins and titles are all anyone cares about.
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Re: KY is all that is wrong with college basketball IMO
Apr 5, 2014, 10:59 PM
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almost all. the academic fraud carp UNC got away with is pretty bad too
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Orange Blooded [2929]
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I guess I don't see how this can go on without
Apr 5, 2014, 11:06 PM
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Some type of sleazy activity. I get that Calipari sells them on how many NBA picks he's coached but I still don't think that explains how they get this many 5 stars from all over the US EVERY SINGLE YEAR.
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Orange Blooded [2217]
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none from their state***
Apr 5, 2014, 11:14 PM
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CU Guru [1746]
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Basketball and football recruiting are different...
Apr 6, 2014, 12:42 AM
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With all of the AAU stuff, ball is pretty much a national deal with recruiting. Most of the top programs nationally recruit. kY doesn't have many quality ball players so having a 5 star guy is unlikely.
AT&T he end of the day though, KY is about as good a program there is and with Cal's prestige it makes perfect sense why they get the players.
Do you sit around and owner how Saban gets so many high level kids? Probably not bc the answer is obvious.
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CU Medallion [50635]
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aren't you spose to have some kind of graduation rate
Apr 5, 2014, 11:15 PM
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now a days to avoid some kind of sanctions
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CU Guru [1101]
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If there is I bet those white boys on the end of the bench
Apr 5, 2014, 11:19 PM
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are straight A students
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Rock Defender [53]
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Calipari is the Lou Holtz of college basketball...
Apr 5, 2014, 11:16 PM
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He has left a nice NCAA inquiry present at every school he coached.
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Re: Both are as sleazy as they come.***
Apr 5, 2014, 11:36 PM
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110%er [9174]
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^This***
Apr 6, 2014, 12:12 AM
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CU Guru [1761]
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they are Kentucky.
Apr 5, 2014, 11:16 PM
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It is like being Alabama in football, you get who you want.
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CU Guru [1197]
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well they both
Apr 5, 2014, 11:50 PM
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have a history of cheating too.
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CU Guru [1761]
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they are Kentucky.
Apr 5, 2014, 11:19 PM
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It is like being Alabama in football, you get who you want.
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I dont understand why players want to play there
Apr 5, 2014, 11:23 PM
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Your name is quickly forgotten amongst other kentucky greats. You are just a revolving door.
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CU Guru [1101]
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They're only worried about getting the NBA and getting that
Apr 5, 2014, 11:43 PM
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"Paper"
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CU Guru [1746]
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They want to play there bc Calipari....
Apr 6, 2014, 12:36 AM
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Is. Great coach to play for. UK provides a platform for kids to get more exposure and hype. Cal is known as a NBA minded guy who gets the most out of you in a short time.
His players absolutely love him and playing college ball at UK is about as good as you can get.
If your name is quickly forgotten at UK then why do any recruits go to any successful schools. Should 5 star football recruits start groin to Wake Forest so that they can make a name for themselves....they'll be just another another forgotten name at good schools.
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CU Guru [1250]
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The Real Question Is
Apr 6, 2014, 11:03 AM
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why the NBA continues to tolerate a system of allowing one and done players to dilute their product. Why not let the college game develop players at no cost to the NBA?
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Yea
Apr 5, 2014, 11:38 PM
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And can we pay these players yet!?
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CU Medallion [51991]
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100% graduation rate for KY--here's how
Apr 5, 2014, 11:47 PM
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"Calipari’s success at Kentucky has been remarkable, both athletically and academically. Despite the mocking comments of the Twits, very few schools do better at graduating players over four years; and even though those who opt for NBA early entry aren’t counted among them, they don’t count against either. Therefore, as far as the NCAA is concerned, Kentucky has had a 100% graduation rate of counters."
http://www.aseaofblue.com/2013/4/30/4285734/kentucky-basketball-john-calipari-touts-100-graduation-rate-correctly
Everything that is wrong with college basketball is correct.
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CU Guru [1095]
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Heard some stories from a different hard Kentucky fan and their program
Apr 5, 2014, 11:50 PM
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Is extremely dirty. In the same ballpark with UNC.
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CU Guru [1095]
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DIE-HARD***
Apr 5, 2014, 11:50 PM
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CU Guru [1052]
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Coach Cal said...
Apr 5, 2014, 11:52 PM
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That if players had to stay in school, he would have all stars John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, and Anthony Davis on this years team. You think he wouldn't want that? Respect that man
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110%er [9174]
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U tell 'em, cOOt***
Apr 6, 2014, 12:15 AM
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Re: Coach Cal said...
Apr 6, 2014, 12:25 AM
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The fact he said it doesn't mean it's correct.
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CU Medallion [51991]
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Calipari: You be the judge
Apr 6, 2014, 12:16 AM
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"Calipari has officially been to 3 Final Fours, all three with Kentucky (2011, 2012, 2014). He had previously led UMass in 1996 and Memphis in 2008 to the Final Four, but those appearances were later vacated. Consequently, Calipari is the only head coach to have Final Four appearances vacated at more than one school, although Calipari himself was not personally implicated by the NCAA in either case."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Calipari
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You left out the three in stripes they usually get to 'play'***
Apr 6, 2014, 12:30 AM
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CU Guru [1746]
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I am a diehard UK fan...
Apr 6, 2014, 12:50 AM
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And can answer your question.
It is annoying at times to try and fall in love with a new team each year but you eventually do love the team. This team was a little hard until tourney time though.
I'm used to it by now , I wish kids would stick around more but if you're going to be a lottery pick then I can't blame a kid for choosing to make millions over getting 30 more credit hours towards his sociology degree
Some guys like Daniel Orten and marquis Teague should've stayed but they rode that hype to the draft.
And yes, people do care about wins and titles. That why we follow the games. We don't get involved to watch guys go to class. We want them to get their degrees obviously but if they r good enough to go pro then that is completely understandable.
If Clemson could recruit and win like this with all freshman and won a title...then a bunch of guys leave......we would take it. Some would cry about it but all would love a tourney run like this.
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Re: I am a diehard UK fan...
Apr 6, 2014, 9:32 AM
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And that is the simple truth. At the end of the day, and at the end of the season, most of the fans only care about the Ws. To many Ls only turn them against the coach and the kids that are representing their school. It didn't just get this way, its always been that way. The only difference today is the money involved and the prestige that entitles the school as a winning program. The majority of fans don't care about graduation rates over the titles won. Sad but true!!!
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How are you a die hard uk fan and a clemfanWV ?
Apr 6, 2014, 10:24 AM
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So foreign to me.
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Born and bred ....
Apr 6, 2014, 12:10 PM
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Clemson but came to Kentucky for school. It's hard to service both allegiances buts possible since we are in different conferences.
The only challenges so far were the music city bowls. I pulled for Clemson in 2006 and didn't really care the second time as the Tigers had a poor ending to the season and UK pretty much stunk that year.
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Re: KY is all that is wrong with college basketball IMO***
Apr 6, 2014, 9:31 AM
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CU Guru [1761]
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no one was complaining last year.
Apr 6, 2014, 9:34 AM
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Cals first year he took them to championship and most left. Last year he brought in new freshman and was not able to get them to play together. Very poor year by UKstandards. This year they are peaking at the right time and getting it done. For Xal to take
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CU Guru [1761]
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oops
Apr 6, 2014, 9:37 AM
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For Cal to take all these freshmen that were the man all their life and mold them to play together this quickly is a tremendous coaching job.
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Oculus Spirit [93612]
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A player's Union could fix that.
Apr 6, 2014, 11:04 AM
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just sayin
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Winning cures all***
Apr 6, 2014, 12:11 PM
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Oculus Spirit [75683]
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The NCAA is lucky that the NBA D league
Apr 6, 2014, 12:37 PM
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isn't attractive or viable. If it were, none of these guys would go to college at all.
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Re: The NCAA is lucky that the NBA D league
Apr 6, 2014, 4:57 PM
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Which, to me, would be just fine. Not everyone should go to college. Having people attend who don't have education as their goal increases the cost for all attendees, and in the case of publicly assisted schools, the taxpayer as well.
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Orange Blooded [2929]
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Re: KY is all that is wrong with college basketball IMO
Apr 6, 2014, 9:46 PM
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Furthermore I've been to Lexington KY and it's not all that cool of a place.
Not a bad place by any means, but It's not a place that an 18 year old superstar athlete would think is happenin'
Just seems like ol Coach Cal might be throwing some extra benefits in those recruiting letters 
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