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So what is the worst thing on Freeze?
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So what is the worst thing on Freeze?


Nov 16, 2020, 9:51 PM

1. He got busted big time by the NCAA?

or


2. He was calling prostitutes on escort lines while on recruiting trips?


I mean are either of those in dispute?

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Re: So what is the worst thing on Freeze?


Nov 16, 2020, 9:56 PM

what was bad about his cheating was it was so blatant. it's like Biden "winning" 94 percent of the black vote in Detroit, a full 20% more than the historically high turn out in 2008 for the first African-American President. c'mon man. he's probably learned his lesson and won't try to go from zero to the playoffs in one year. he's also learned what a burner phone is.

remember when Ole Miss AND Miss State were both in the top 4 of the CFP poll? crazy.

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Show some proof or SHUT UP


Nov 17, 2020, 8:05 AM

About the vote ....

Prove it .... every baseless accusation without proof makes the accuser seem more radical and less relevant ...

If I wanted baseless opinions stated as fact I would just tune in to Tucker Carlson...

Come on Tigers, aren't we better than THIS?!

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Since you're going to attempt to take the high road


Nov 17, 2020, 8:21 AM

and claim that we're "better than THIS" why don't you prove it.

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There's something in these hills.


My point exactly ....


Nov 17, 2020, 9:23 AM

Football board = no place for baseless political beliefs....

That being said:

The impetus of truth is the responsibility of the prosecution....

"Innocent until proven guilty" ? Does this sound familiar? Like a fair judicial system ?

What's more than a century of prescidence worth anyway?

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Yeah! this is tigernet. not that parler crap.***


Nov 17, 2020, 3:53 PM



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Check my other comment in this thread


Nov 17, 2020, 12:03 PM [ in reply to Since you're going to attempt to take the high road ]

to see how tiger_swimmer® got his numbers mixed up. There was nothing unusual about the election results in Detroit this year.

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Re: Show some proof or SHUT UP


Nov 17, 2020, 9:21 AM [ in reply to Show some proof or SHUT UP ]

Said by another brain dead zombie.

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Its the Trump cult mentality


Nov 17, 2020, 10:44 AM [ in reply to Show some proof or SHUT UP ]

Zero accountability. Its got to be someone else's fault. Someone has to be cheating. Its pathetic but then again its how they rationalize, and justify.

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You mean EXACTLY like...


Nov 17, 2020, 10:54 AM

the Dems argued Russian collusion and election tampering after Trump defeated Clinton?

Now, all of a sudden, the Dems position is there is no way to fix a US election. The integrity of the process is beyond question.

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Re: You mean EXACTLY like...


Nov 17, 2020, 5:31 PM

People on the left like this guy could care less about morality, integrity, voter fraud, Presidents cheating on spouses, collusion, and violence UNLESS it gives them a political advantage. They legitimately repeat what they’ve been spoon fed by the media and most demonstrate no ability to process facts without political bias.

- They forget Hillary Clinton’s husband got oral sex IN the Oval Office
- They forget Obama BUILT the cages
- They forget they whined about election collusion for the last four years and found NOTHING
- They conveniently IGNORE the violence and looting in the streets their fellow democratic supporters have inflicted
- They won’t even acknowledge Biden’s racist remarks in the past
- Worst of all, they blindly support the murder of babies, which was initiated as a way to control African American population and still is today

They could care less about these things...unless it gives them a political advantage to accuse the other party.

It’s HYPOCRISY at its worst.

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I’m not a Democrat either


Nov 17, 2020, 6:42 PM

I just realized how sick Trump is. I would have no problem voting for an intelligent mature republican that wants to make this country better. I’ve done it in the past.

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Re: You mean EXACTLY like...


Nov 17, 2020, 6:00 PM [ in reply to You mean EXACTLY like... ]

To be clear you're talking about the accusation of Russian collusion that the Mueller report then confirmed right?

The Dems aren't saying there's no way to fix a US election, they're saying there's no evidence of wide spread voter fraud. There was evidence of Russian collusion in 2016, there's no evidence of wide spread voter fraud in 2020. These are facts. Why do you have an issue with facts?

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Re: Its the Trump cult mentality


Nov 17, 2020, 5:48 PM [ in reply to Its the Trump cult mentality ]

TD Tigers said:

Zero accountability. Its got to be someone else's fault. Someone has to be cheating. Its pathetic but then again its how they rationalize, and justify.

Zero accountability--which is what you're doing right now.

I have no problem agreeing that in many ways Trump didn't earn the right to be reelected.

But he didn't deserve to have that right taken away, and it's been being taken away for 4 years.

And 74 million Americans who stood in line to cast their votes for him deserve to be heard as much as the 60 million who stood in line to vote for Biden. But the 16 million who got their votes "cured" for Biden got preferential treatment, and Biden only 'won' because 12 states allow it, while 38 do not.

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Re: Its the Trump cult mentality


Nov 17, 2020, 6:02 PM

Evidence. Provide me with evidence that literally a single word of what you just said was true.

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Re: Its the Trump cult mentality


Nov 18, 2020, 12:50 AM

OMG. You don't even have a clue, do you?

Do you read?

AP, NPR, AJC--they're all admitting it happened and then telling you it's normal, but it's not. It never happened before 2020.

NY excluded 21% of mail-in votes because they don't "cure" the improperly filled in ballots.
PA excluded .03%--that's not a mistake. That's 1/700th of the rate NY excluded. Were PA voters just better at filling out their ballots correctly? No; NY was not a contested state, Biden was able to win the state with 21% of the mail-in voters effectively disenfranchised, so there was no need to find a judge who would override the election laws of NY.

But Dem lawyers protested the exclusion of almost all mail-in ballots in PA because PA was a contested state and excluding the ballot "disenfranchises" that voter. But an improperly completed ballot cannot be counted. So Dems got approval to take the excluded ballots back to the original voter and have them correct them--or correct them online--so those ballots would be accepted.

This is a massive and labor-intensive operation, similar to a census count, and the only ballots to get cured and counted were those that were returned before the rest of the correctly filled in ballots were finished being counted. Dem 'volunteers' were paid $400 per day + mileage to work up to 15-hour days in order to cure ballots. In some cases election officials turned over the voters' names, addresses and birth dates so the paid volunteers could locate the person. (As you can imagine, that has caused legal issues.)

PA, GA, and WI were among the state that cured votes like this. NC tried but they got a lot of pushback in Mecklenburg County.

These get-out-the-vote organizations worked extremely hard to get these votes counted that in every previous year would have been excluded. They are proud of what they have done and believe it to be a service to other voters. They don't like being told that what they've done is grounds for a lawsuit.

I'm also sure that the Dem lawyers that set this up knew what they were doing.

But it has absolutely never been done before in a Presidential election, and in many cases it was an extralegal decision by a judge or Secy of State to include these votes. (Other state legislatures actually made it legal before the primaries.) It was rumored--not verified--that Dem lawyers in the Atlanta counties used the threat of civil unrest by BLM if mail-in ballots, many from black voters, were not allowed to be cured. So all county election officials bowed to the pressure except Forsyth. (GA law was supposed to have election officials contact the voters, not volunteers, but election officials were overwhelmed and unable to. It's conceivable that Republicans assumed this loophole would only allow a trickle of votes to be cured and were totally unprepared for the massive effort made by the Dems.)

You: So why haven't I heard about this?

Me: Because no one wants to tell you.

You: Well, how can they justify this legally?

Me: Oh, that's easy: because the Republicans can do it too, if they're organized, well-funded and have enough improperly filled in ballots to make it worthwhile.

You: Surely you're omitting security measures. They can't possibly be releasing this data to some schmuck on the street.

Me: it varies by state. Some require the ballots to be cured online by the original voter. Some require the curing agent to sign a security pledge or go through a training process to make him/her a certified schmuck off the street. And you're right, I have no idea how they are protecting these voters' privacy once they give it out. If they care.

You: so if this is happening, why doesn't somebody sue to stop it? Without a lawsuit, it must be legal.

Me: or it just hasn't been decided yet. One court has ruled that "curing" ballots in a non uniform manner provides "extra protection" under the law, not "equal protection." But election law varies by state--unless someone can get the SCOTUS to rule on the entire concept of curing. Stay tuned.

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Re: Show some proof or SHUT UP


Nov 17, 2020, 2:37 PM [ in reply to Show some proof or SHUT UP ]

Are you talking about CNN and Russia or Hugh Freeze? Just askin'.

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Re: So what is the worst thing on Freeze?


Nov 17, 2020, 8:24 AM [ in reply to Re: So what is the worst thing on Freeze? ]

Great, another sports topic that gets turned into a political debate...

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Re: So what is the worst thing on Freeze?


Nov 17, 2020, 11:19 AM [ in reply to Re: So what is the worst thing on Freeze? ]


what was bad about his cheating was it was so blatant. it's like Biden "winning" 94 percent of the black vote in Detroit

Hillary got 95% in 2016.

Trump got almost 5,000 more votes in Detroit this year than he did in 2016.

Biden got almost 1,000 fewer votes in Detroit this year than Hillary did in 2016.

https://www.freep.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/06/joe-biden-detroit-michigan-vote-election-2020/6168971002/



a full 20% more than the historically high turn out in 2008 for the first African-American President.

That is incorrect. Did you compare 2020 results in Detroit with 2008 results in Wayne County, MI? Obama won with 97% of votes in Detroit in 2008.

https://detroitmi.gov/sites/detroitmi.localhost/files/2019-07/summary_report_combined_results.pdf

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Re: So what is the worst thing on Freeze?


Nov 16, 2020, 10:08 PM

When he used his freeze gun on Batman and Robin.

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Re: So what is the worst thing on Freeze?


Nov 17, 2020, 7:42 AM

If Freeze comes to SC does the ragweed get killed and go away?

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The worst thing he did was pretend to be a Christian.***


Nov 17, 2020, 8:22 AM



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There's something in these hills.


If the coots don't hire him it's because of he escorts...


Nov 17, 2020, 8:51 AM

they obviously don't care about the cheating...

Lou Holtz

Lou Holtz is typically not thought of as a dirty coach, but has left every program he coached at just before they were hit with NCAA probation. NC State, Minnesota, Arkansas, Notre Dame, and South Carolina were all found to have violated NCAA rules while under the leadership of Holtz.

Holtz was also overseeing the Notre Dame Football team when they were caught distributing steroids in the locker room during the late 80’s and early 90’s. The NCAA allowed the Irish to handle the matter internally, but there is no way Holtz was unaware of all that was going on with his program.

(take from 2011 article titled "The Most Scandalous Figures in College Football History")

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Re: If the coots don't hire him it's because of he escorts...


Nov 17, 2020, 11:59 AM

I got through on the Dan Patrick show and had the opportunity to ask holts about his cheating and investigations at EVERY school he had coached at. Except William and Mary. His answer was no one could prove a single instance where he had given cash to a recruit.

Totally ignored all the other ways to cheat.

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Even if uof6c wanted Freeze...


Nov 17, 2020, 9:04 AM

aside from the fact that they're even remotely considering that scumbag speaks volumes and further confirms their win at any cost mentality, the possibility still exists that Freeze has been blackballed by $EC Commissioner Greg Sankey.

Frankly, I hope they do hire him. He'll have them in trouble with the NCAA and on probation within three years.




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Re: Even if uof6c wanted Freeze...


Nov 17, 2020, 10:57 AM

If I had to put money on the next landing spot for Freeze it would be in Michigan.

They are coots with higher expectations and I think they are ready to do anything to get back on the level of OSU.

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Michigan and uof6c are similar...


Nov 17, 2020, 11:18 AM

in that both have unrealistic expectations.

Michigan doesn't need to worry about O-cry-O State right now just like uof6c needs to stop obsessing about Clemson. The difference in those programs is like night and day. Clemson and O-cry-O State are elite programs while Michigan and uof6c...well...aren't.




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Michigan is at least 2 tiers above SC in terms of program level


Nov 17, 2020, 1:46 PM

Michigan is more like Nebraska than SC. The decline of the rust belt and the auto industry has really hurt them, but Michigan is only a couple decades removed from being a national title contender on a fairly regular basis.

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Right now they both suck...


Nov 17, 2020, 3:30 PM

although Michigan does have a rich tradition and history, something uof6c (a perennial doormat and bottom feeder) has never had and will likely never have.

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neither one matter to me personally but................


Nov 17, 2020, 12:29 PM

you can't hire him and put him in front of a group of young men. You can't defend either decision he made. A major university can't send him to recruit for their school and not get laughed at.

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Re: So what is the worst thing on Freeze?


Nov 17, 2020, 2:13 PM



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Re: So what is the worst thing on Freeze?


Nov 17, 2020, 5:52 PM

How did we go football questions, OMG, ON A FOOTBALL BOARD, to politics? Football people, F O O T B A L L people.

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Re: So what is the worst thing on Freeze?


Nov 17, 2020, 5:55 PM

It was an off week.

If Biden cancels the CFP it will be this way all the time. ;)

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