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Trump suggesting to Laura Ingram coronavirus deaths are overstated
Sep 3, 2020, 8:20 PM
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Trump was trying to float the thought with Laura Ingram that coronavirus really hasn’t caused the number of deaths that’s been reported. There is many studies from statisticians that suggest that the number of coronavirus deaths are understated if anything. There has been at least as many increased deaths in 2020 then there was in 2019 that match up with a number of coronavirus deaths reported . Please explain to me how that doesn’t prove coronavirus is causing these deaths? I’m sure there will be no valid arguments to this unless you say fake news.
This reminds me of his claim that he really won the popular vote because of voter fraud. Then he formed this voter fraud group that got nowhere.
When I heard Trump a few weeks before the 2016 elections suggest that the elections were rigged, I knew this guy was an absolute train wreck and fraud.
Trump has done some good things and I don’t have much of a problem with most of his policies. But the guy is the biggest liar in the history of American presidents. I just can’t see only one can argue with that.
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Re: Trump suggesting to Laura Ingram coronavirus deaths are overstated
Sep 3, 2020, 8:22 PM
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I think he really believes his own BS, he is not well.
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He is right
Sep 3, 2020, 8:24 PM
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Hospitals were coding almost EVERYONE as Covid-19 positive, even without people getting tested.
Wife is an RN and worked close-up with these type patients and she confirms this.
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God bless your wife for being an RN and helping peopl
Sep 3, 2020, 8:31 PM
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And I respect her front line opinion. But I can send you many many links of studies that have come to the conclusion that the number of people that have died in America in 2020 versus this time last year in 2019 is actually even higher than the number of Covid deaths reported YTD. I tend to think that a widespread conspiracy to lie about this is very unlikely
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Thank your wife for me.
Sep 3, 2020, 8:43 PM
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Tell her I really appreciate her enduring this epidemic. It takes a tough cookie to do it and now I understand why nursing students complained about the carp they endured to get through school.
This was expected and made an issue when the gov committed to paying up to $33K for covid patients and up to $133K for covid patients on ventilators. It's just economics. It didn't matter whether or not you had insurance, you knew you were going to get paid.
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Re: BS***
Sep 3, 2020, 8:47 PM
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Go back to the mange.
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Says the guy who's on record talking about how much he gets
Sep 3, 2020, 8:57 PM
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Re: BS***
Sep 3, 2020, 10:33 PM
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Re: He is right
Sep 3, 2020, 8:45 PM
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yeah, it is a nationwide cabal of attending ER physicians committing fraud to make trump look bad. I mean they hate the guy so much they are willing to risk their medical licenses and mid 6 figure salaries to pad the COVID numbers. This all checks out.
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What % does she estimate that happened on?***
Sep 4, 2020, 9:37 AM
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Wasn't there a recent CDC report that said
Sep 3, 2020, 8:38 PM
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the same?
I think he is dead on with this.
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lutz
Sep 3, 2020, 8:46 PM
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You are borderline feckless.
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Seems pretty clear
Sep 3, 2020, 11:04 PM
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I’m just talking about the fake claim Gateway Pundit made that Trump retweeted the other day.
It is disingenuous for anyone, especially Trump, to suggest that 94% of deaths were not due to COVID19. That is a manipulation of the most obscene kind and a deliberate misinterpretation of the CDC report in order to hoodwink the unwitting public.
The Comorbidities page shows the breakdown clearly.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htmTabulated data on provisional COVID-19 deaths by age, sex, race and Hispanic origin, and comorbidities. Also includes an index of state-level and county-level mortality data available for download.
Take a look at a death certificate and notice the entry fields.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/dvs/DEATH11-03final-acc.pdf
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the deaths due to COVID are overstated...and so is the......
Sep 4, 2020, 9:16 AM
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death rate.
I've been saying it since March........the virus is real, but the fear instilled HYSTERIA is and has been so politicized by the Left to crush the economy for their own political gain (see pelosi salon for a small example among many) it's not even funny.
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No liar
Sep 4, 2020, 9:37 AM
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no liar
You're the liar
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I’m curious about the deaths in the years to come
Sep 4, 2020, 10:46 AM
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I think all of us rational people can agree that all studies including CDC‘s recent article show that the number of increased deaths this year versus last year is approximately the same as the number of coronavirus deaths increases. You can argue that the stress of the Government response caused some of these deaths, but it’s difficult to put a real number on that.
What I am curious about his deaths in the coming years. Certainly the virus accelerated the deaths of many seniors that were on deaths door anyway. So this could conceivably cause deaths to go down in the coming years. But then you have to factor in the long-term impact of side effects of those that recovered from the virus and also the mental toll that could possibly accelerate deaths.
No matter what Covid dux.
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