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To the feathered faithful
Feb 8, 2015, 1:38 PM
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I have been reading a lot of talk from the feathered faithful lately about how these Jucos they brought in are going to instantly turn their team around. I believe even the head chicken himself said something to the effect, that they brought in 30, nearly a third of our team... new look, better product. Heres the thing, instant coffee does not compare to the true brew,in fact, it leaves a bitter taste. Instant grits will not stick to your ribs and taste like matted fiber. If you are looking for instant success and gratification.... do it right... in other words like CLEMSON and Dabo! THAT IS ALL!
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not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 8, 2015, 1:39 PM
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 7:18 AM
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We don't even know if these guys will start for us.
But purely based on recruiting rankings it's hard to argue Marquavius Lewis wouldn't start for Clemson.
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 7:22 AM
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Where was he ranked in high school?
Maybe we should compare "apples to apples"?
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 7:32 AM
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Why would it matter where he was ranked in high school?
He's going to be a junior in college this fall.
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 8:57 AM
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I knew you would have a comeback.
Because you were comparing their ratings.
Note your statement - "But purely based on recruiting rankings it's hard to argue Marquavius Lewis wouldn't start for Clemson."
That's why. Apples to apples.
Where was he rated coming out of high school?
We don't delve into the JC ranks too frequently.
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Dynamite go BOOM***
Feb 9, 2015, 9:02 AM
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 11:16 AM
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Who would start over him?
I can see a reasonable argument for Lawson but who would be the other?
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 11:37 AM
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Ebo and Dodd
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 11:42 AM
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You're reaching there and you know it.
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 12:45 PM
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Lewis is a SDE but like Lawson, he can play either side.
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 12:48 PM
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I think he's a good player, but he would have a much harder time starting for us than you. He's guarnteed a starting spot and you know it.
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 12:50 PM
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That is a completely different argument than you made.
Clearly we have no established DEs and you have 1 established DE.
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 12:54 PM
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My opinion is the same, he does not start us for but cracks the two deep.
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Who's to say you aren't reaching and know it?
Feb 9, 2015, 1:01 PM
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Reading through just a few of your posts shows without a doubt that reaching is about all you ever have. You already know that. That's a strange hobby you have there - posting bull shat on your rivals website then challenging for hours on end with zero objectivity. Then you claim others are reaching? Funny stuff kid.
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Re: Who's to say you aren't reaching and know it?
Feb 9, 2015, 1:08 PM
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Welcome back Stanley.
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In his defense
Feb 9, 2015, 1:13 PM
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the entire media was reaching when they had them ranked #9 at the beginning of the year.
But really their bigger concern is on the offensive side of the ball.
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 1:36 PM
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Lewis is like any other freshman. He's no Clowney by far. I believe he would have the possibility to come in and challenge for a starting spot here but in the end there is too much of a learning curve for a freshman. Think about it. When's the last time y'all had a freshman start and make a significant impact besides Clowney? Don't worry I'll wait. Ebo, Dodd, and Yeargin have been in the system longer and has more of a shot to start. Based on the reports that came out of practice last season Yeargin is pushing for the starting spot. Dude is legit. So if Lewis did come to Clemson I just don't believe he start day one. And I honestly don't think he'll even be too effective for y'all either. He might have a 5 sack season. Which would still be decent for e freshman.
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 1:38 PM
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This is what sucks about Juco. Most come in needing to learn the speed of D1 football and are freshman all over again. Once they're up to task, they're gone. So you hope to get 1 good year out of a juco.
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 1:45 PM
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You gotta give them some credit. Lewis is big time I don't know about starting but he would be in the 2 deep day 1 with a chance. I wish with all the loses we took we would have gotten him. that being said what we have on campus at DE is much better than what they have even with juco.
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 1:49 PM
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I didn't say he couldn't crack the two deep. I'll give him a shot at that but not the starting lineup.
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I agree with Bryant
Feb 9, 2015, 2:06 PM
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Most underrated guy in the class even though he's a 4 star. Coaches are really high on Huggins. He'll play DE some as well.
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If TIGERnet gives you one......
Feb 9, 2015, 12:54 PM
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will you venture back to the chicken coop where you belong? On that note why have you spent half your life perusing your rivals website?
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Re: not one of those Jucos would start for us***
Feb 9, 2015, 3:08 PM
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Did you read my posts?
I clearly acknowledged that Lawson was a locked in starter.
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Re: To the feathered faithful
Feb 8, 2015, 1:48 PM
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I hope they NEVER "get it" when it comes to recruiting. I want them to fail miserably at everything....forever.
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I thought you could only sign 25 a year and only have 85
Feb 8, 2015, 1:52 PM
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total. But I guess you can sign 30 and have 95 total in the SEC
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Re: I thought you could only sign 25 a year and only have 85
Feb 9, 2015, 10:45 AM
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USCjv lost 39 players this past season. They only had 30 commit and not all of them will make it in.
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You must have ventured to fighting coot forum, theyre
Feb 8, 2015, 3:45 PM
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The most delusional fans of anything I've ever seen, most coot fans won't even claim them. Most coots I've seen or heard talk about recruiting juco players so heavily at the end of this recruiting cycle especially have spoken of it as its out of desperation, they're not happy with a large amount of the juco players they picked up over the past few months. However now you don't really hear much football out of them or men's basketball for that matter, it's all women's basketball and baseball for them now. They're the one fanbase that would resort to bragging about women's basketball.
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Re: To the feathered faithful
Feb 8, 2015, 5:00 PM
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Every one of these JUCO recruits went the junior college route for a reason. They either weren't good enough to get a scholarship at D1 schools or had grade / behavior problems. So let me get this straight; through two years of coaching/training by JUCO staffs in JUCO facilities and playing against other JUCO opponents, they're now going to transform the Yardbirds into a powerhouse program. I bet Alabama and Georgia are frothing at the mouth they didn't get to sign all these great JUCO's. You gotta love a "coots" logic. Go Tigers!
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Re: To the feathered faithful
Feb 8, 2015, 7:44 PM
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Judico coot players = party down at 5 points ,. old coach goes to bed early ,.,. party
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Re: To the feathered faithful
Feb 9, 2015, 1:33 AM
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Not only will most Jucos be mostly average quality, they will only be around 1 or 2 years instead of 3 or 4 years. You may get a lucky peak here and there but team continuity will suffer over the long haul.
Stop Gap onesy or twosy emergency move to fill unexpected needs from injury.
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Please also tell this to Dan Snyder...
Feb 9, 2015, 8:08 AM
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For far too long, he's tried to buy his fantasy team, rather than proper drafting, and just take a look how productive the Redskins have been lately.
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It's going to be a blast seeing the wake-up call slowly
Feb 9, 2015, 3:01 PM
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take effect next season in Columbia. Out of 31 players in this class, the top 20 players in it weren't enough to push the team to the top 20 in recruiting rankings. This on the heels of losing 39 players from last year's roster. We know they'll have a fair number that won't qualify on top of that, so entering summer their roster is already going to be on the thin side, and heavy on shorter-term talent. And how does that impact their next recruiting class, which is going to have to be high again on numbers before any further attrition kicks in, with 1 less year of the dwindling Spurrier tenure in play? And of course the year after that as well with so many JUCO's now in the mix?
Add in some resurgence among the SEC's traditional East powers and before they know it... poof. It will be fun hearing their fans and media spin this once it ensues.
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