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I like Chris Wallace and think he is a seasoned professional
Sep 30, 2020, 12:19 PM
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but last night was not his finest hour. He totally lost control of Trump to the point where he was telling Trump to stop talking while saying "Mr. President, you're gonna like this next one" or "this next question is about race, but you can talk about anything you like."
Trump curb stomped Chris Wallace, an experienced professional. I think that says more about Trump and how everything he touches turns to chaotic ####.
It will be interesting going forward to see how the debate commission addresses the problem created by a candidate that thinks laws and rules and decorum are only intended to constrain his opponents.
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How about there is one microphone...
Sep 30, 2020, 12:25 PM
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And they take turns walking up to it. Like the spelling bee or something.
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COVID***
Sep 30, 2020, 12:26 PM
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Turning off Trump's mic would be a good start, but the
Sep 30, 2020, 12:27 PM
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rules are already in place and any change would require Trump to agree to them.
Given his obvious debate strategy, could you see him agreeing to that?
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I don't see why they have to agree...
Sep 30, 2020, 12:33 PM
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The smart people who run the debates should be able to make that call. Do they have to agree to wearing pants?
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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But, they do have to agree.
Sep 30, 2020, 12:53 PM
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Do you think Trump would agree to those rules?
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I don't know.
Sep 30, 2020, 12:54 PM
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He was interrupted, too, and I'm sure he would like not to have been.
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I don't think he disliked it...
Sep 30, 2020, 1:03 PM
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I think the idea was to frustrate Biden with interruptions and attacks in the hopes that he would get agitated and lose his train of thought. I have had clients with early dementia and they usually do not do well when giving testimony because they get confused and flustered and shut down. I think Trump was trying to push that button with Biden.
But I think a happy accident side effect of Trump's tactic was that even though he failed to get Biden to appear to have lost it, he did get Biden to come down into the mud with him and wrassle. Which kept Biden from running away with the debate given the low expectations going in.
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Biden started messing up a lot toward the end.
Sep 30, 2020, 2:43 PM
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I figured his meds were wearing off.
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Re: I don't think he disliked it...
Sep 30, 2020, 2:49 PM
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We have a winner ding ding ding. Give him 2 more he will get him to fly off the handle and show his true temperament.
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Re: How about there is one microphone...
Oct 1, 2020, 3:56 AM
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Whoa now, you know the rules here: no logic or reason allowed!
I suggest both enter the squared circle, refereed by Stone Cold Steve Austin (or Goldberg, whichever is free that night). Winner becomes POTUS, loser is VPOTUS. Any outside help/aid/influence is an automatic forfeit & they also forfeit their VPOTUS role to their most hated rival: Hillary/Chelsea or Ivanka/DJT, Jr/Eric combo.
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110%er [6155]
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The microphones need to be off when it isn't their turn.***
Sep 30, 2020, 12:28 PM
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I thought Chris Wallace did a great job considering who and
Sep 30, 2020, 12:29 PM
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what he was dealing with. He was persistent and firm in dealing with petulant behavior, mainly from the most powerful man in the world. I hear an awful lot of beotching from both sides about him, but honestly don't know what people expected him to do.
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I agree that Chris tried and failed to restrain Trump, which
Sep 30, 2020, 12:32 PM
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is why I said it says more about Trump than Chris.
But, ultimately, Wallace failed every single time to prevent Trump from bulling through the china shop, preventing the American people from getting anything resembling a presidential debate.
It was a trainwreck.
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Short of having a button to mute mics...
Sep 30, 2020, 12:29 PM
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what would you have him do? At times Trump appeared to think that he was there to debate Wallace.
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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As I said in the post, "it says more about Trump than Chris"
Sep 30, 2020, 12:34 PM
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but yes, a mute button would be helpful.
However, that would require the debate commission to propose the change and the Trump camp to accept.
Do you think Trump would agree to that change?
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Re: I like Chris Wallace and think he is a seasoned professional
Sep 30, 2020, 12:30 PM
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Nothing can prepare a moderator or tv viewing audience for what we saw last night.
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I agree.
Sep 30, 2020, 12:42 PM
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Nothing prepares anybody - not a seasoned professional like Wallace, a tv viewing audience or an opposition candidate - for the sh!t show that Trump put on last night.
That was my point.
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I don't think there's much more he could have done
Sep 30, 2020, 12:38 PM
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with preventing the cross-talking.
Based on my reading, my main problem is the same with all these debates. I wish the questions were just questions. Why is there a whole paragraph of statements before the question? I'll give an example. Wallace talks for several sentences about past statements and stuff, and then asks the President "What is your healthcare plan?" Why not just say, "Mr. President, what is your healthcare plan?" All the previous statements just generate all the arguing.
I would like for each question asked to literally be a one-sentence question.
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Becauese that's a nasty question***
Sep 30, 2020, 12:42 PM
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I completely disagree.***
Sep 30, 2020, 12:46 PM
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This happens in press conferences and interviews, too.
Sep 30, 2020, 12:46 PM
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It's like, we don't really want to hear the questioner talk...thanks.
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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If you watched the debate, the cross talking wasn't the
Sep 30, 2020, 12:46 PM
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actual problem. It was Trump talking over both the candidate and the moderator and never following the rules he agreed to. Even Chris Wallace pointed out that the problem was Trump.
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All-In [26968]
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I see it from both.
Sep 30, 2020, 12:47 PM
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But, granted, more from the President.
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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And you admitted you did not watch the debates.***
Sep 30, 2020, 12:51 PM
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All-In [26968]
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I see it in the transcript
Sep 30, 2020, 12:53 PM
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That I am reading.
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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OK. You feel a transcript gives you the same impression
Sep 30, 2020, 12:56 PM
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as actually having witnessed an event.
I would think that is an extremely unique opinion.
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All-In [26968]
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Never even came close to saying that.
Sep 30, 2020, 12:57 PM
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Nope.
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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So, you agree that not watching an event does NOT give you
Sep 30, 2020, 12:58 PM
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an accurate representation of what actually happened?
I agree with that.
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All-In [26968]
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Uh, no.
Sep 30, 2020, 1:00 PM
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You are strawmanning big time here.
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Hall of Famer [22387]
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Just pointing out that by not watching the actual event
Sep 30, 2020, 1:03 PM
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means your impression of what actually happened lacks perspective.
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Obviously, and someone who doesn't read the transcripts
Sep 30, 2020, 1:05 PM
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will lack that perspective.
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I'm sure that's the reason they do it, but they are wrong.
Sep 30, 2020, 12:53 PM
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It does not effectively provide context. At least it didn't last night. It just makes for arguing before the question is asked.
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Chris Wallace was a biased disaster
Sep 30, 2020, 2:39 PM
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Re: Chris Wallace was a biased disaster
Sep 30, 2020, 2:46 PM
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So a bunch of fringe right-wing sites and commentators squeal bias because he dared to ask Trump tough questions. Makes sense.
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Re: I like Chris Wallace and think he is a seasoned professional
Sep 30, 2020, 4:51 PM
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IMO, Chris Wallace should have been fired 5 minutes after the debate ended.
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Of course you think that. You haven't proven to
Sep 30, 2020, 5:25 PM
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be especially smart in your limited interaction here.
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Re: Of course you think that. You haven't proven to
Sep 30, 2020, 10:31 PM
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Wow, I'm shocked at your stupid comment. Seems to be a pattern.
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