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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Time for Trump to concede...
Nov 6, 2020, 9:58 AM
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I think the Republicans will now fall off with any support moving forward with challenges.
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Oculus Spirit [78823]
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it's like you don't know who Trump is
Nov 6, 2020, 9:59 AM
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never admit defeat
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All-In [42020]
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I think you're right...
Nov 6, 2020, 10:00 AM
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We're not seeing very vocal support from other GOP officials for his challenges for a reason. They're ready to cut losses and move toward 2022 and 2024. The Senate thus far appears to be a big victory for the GOP. With Trump's disastrous speech last night as the cherry on top, I think McConnell and the GOP accept the results and move forward with a party rebrand.
Look for them to gradually purge Trumpism.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I think this will lead to a fallout...
Nov 6, 2020, 10:03 AM
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between Trump and Pence
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Heisman Winner [119571]
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Pence will be glad to be rid of him...***
Nov 6, 2020, 10:09 AM
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Re: I think this will lead to a fallout...
Nov 6, 2020, 10:30 AM
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Pence or any GOP member who values his or her future needs to immediately run from Trump. This election wasn't quite the statement the Dems thought it was going to be, but it was enough: America is done with Trumpism. I'm especially going to point to the moderates' and independents' votes when those numbers come out.
America never wanted Trump from the beginning, and the GOP never wanted Trumpism either but realized they had to go along with it. Now they know the door is open to run away from him. Sadly, many of them will get away with people forgetting how they enabled this admin (Haley, Scott, Cruz, McConnell, etc.).
The trick is going to be connecting again with the hardline Trump loving Americans. They're still Republican, but may become angry when the GOP no longer embraces Trump radicalism.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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to me...
Nov 6, 2020, 10:41 AM
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it's more about integrity than their future. You can say that is the same thing, but if they are people of integrity, they will call a spade a spade without regard to what that means for the future.
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All-In [42020]
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That as well.
Nov 6, 2020, 10:45 AM
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Any person who latches on to Trump now and tries to join this absurd fight clearly shows they lack that integrity.
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Re: to me...
Nov 6, 2020, 12:11 PM
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franc,
If they were people of integrity, wouldn't they have already called him out on his bullyshitt ?
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This post, this one right here, shows why 2016 and 2020
Nov 6, 2020, 11:33 AM
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Happened. Democrats genuinely believe that they are the path forward. They believe they are the morally and intellectually superior policy.
Your worst and the rights worst hold equal water.
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Re: This post, this one right here, shows why 2016 and 2020
Nov 6, 2020, 12:15 PM
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rulez,
I may be misreading you intent but,
Wouldn't one expect for a member of a political party to think they have the superior policies ? Why would you join a party with inferior policies ?
I agree that the worst of the left and the worst of the right have equally bad visions and policies for America. Can we try judging each other on something other than the worst members of our respective groups ?
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Re: This post, this one right here, shows why 2016 and 2020
Nov 6, 2020, 3:19 PM
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No, we cannot stop judging based on the worst, BECAUSE THE WORST OF THE LEFT IS NOT FRINGE.
-Thousands of rioters with democrat politicians essentially supporting the violence (all over, not just one or two)
-BLM is anti-USA to the core - it's not up for debate...and you have CISCO giving them millions along with everyone else
-People in all these marches touting socialism over capitalism. It's all over everyone's social media in college (my kids see it) I mean ALL OVER.
-Green new deal is code for government taking over industry and your life
-Cops being ambushed and killed in cold blood because they are cops
and you can go on and on. I agree cop killers are a fringe element, but the rest are not.
Like it or not Tobias27772 this is who you are siding with. Siding with the people that just made heroin essentially legal in Oregon. Siding with people who hate cops and want to kill them, and have done so.
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All-In [42020]
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Son...
Nov 6, 2020, 1:30 PM
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I'm not a Democrat. I never have been. I didn't vote for Biden. I didn't vote for Hillary. I know. I know. It makes it easier for y'all to assume that because you have a hard time wrapping your head around the idea that a person doesn't subscribe to blind loyalty to a party. You, in fact, know I'm not a Dem, but you'll push the lie.
What I am is someone who is opposed to an incompetent authoritarian idiot like Trump, and his supporters who have rubbed their #### in our faces for four years. Telling us if we didn't suppor the president, we were "libtards" or "Dumbocrats". You were one of them. And now I am gladly--gleefully, in fact--smear it back in y'all's face this week. Y'all had this coming hard.
And if you think Trump is a conservative Republican, it's back to high school civics with you.
I am quite certain the Dems will #### things up royally over the next four years. But at least they aren't raging authoritarian fascists trying to dismantle our republic. They're just inept.
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well ....
Nov 6, 2020, 1:47 PM
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well said. well put.
truth is truth.
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Re: Son...
Nov 6, 2020, 1:50 PM
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"But at least they aren't raging authoritarian fascists trying to dismantle our republic."
You sure about that? Plenty of evidence at state levels that's precisely what they are.
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Re: Son...
Nov 6, 2020, 2:27 PM
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I'd label those folks as bumbling authoritarians trying to make their states their own little fiefdoms. Not a whole scale explosive turd on our Constitution like the Trump admin.
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Oculus Spirit [79400]
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We'll see, they seem to be the model for the Democrat party
Nov 6, 2020, 2:53 PM
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moving forward IMO. Unfortunately, I have zero confidence anybody will scrutinize their actions, making them much more dangerous.
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Re: Time for Trump to concede...
Nov 6, 2020, 10:00 AM
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I just don't see it in Trump's character to bow out with any grace. I'd love to be surprised, and would certainly respect him a lot more if he did.
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oh, I'm afraid you're right***
Nov 6, 2020, 10:01 AM
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Agreed, but he ain't gonna...***
Nov 6, 2020, 10:05 AM
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Cant take stripes off of a zebra
Nov 6, 2020, 10:07 AM
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No act of humility gonna happen from the trumpster.
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Cool, I wanna play this game
Nov 6, 2020, 10:16 AM
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So what happens if he doesn't concede or leave the White House. Then what?
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No idea.
Nov 6, 2020, 10:26 AM
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I mean, I'm not sure he's going to refuse to leave although not much would surprise me. I don't think whether or not he "concedes" really matters, nor is it some kind of obligation or requirement.
He just ain't humble enough to shake the other man's hand, face defeat, and wish the new guy well though. That's not his character.
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Oculus Spirit [80977]
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If he refuses the final results, it doesn't really matter.
Nov 6, 2020, 10:41 AM
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Per the 20th Amendment, if Trump loses the election, his term would end at noon on Jan. 20, 2021, at which time he would officially pass his commander-in-chief authority to Biden.
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Re: If he refuses the final results, it doesn't really matter.
Nov 6, 2020, 12:20 PM
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Ineligible,
Agreed, but I am worried about the damage he can do between now and Jan 20th.
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Re: Time for Trump to concede...
Nov 6, 2020, 10:32 AM
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Re: Time for Trump to concede...
Nov 6, 2020, 10:37 AM
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They got their 3 justices, they held onto the senate, and Biden is NOT a socialist monster. I think a lot of main stream republicans will be content with this and happy to see Trump out of the picture. Wall Street already seems Giddy.
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Trump so far has received the 2nd most votes EVER.
Nov 6, 2020, 10:40 AM
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Republicans who value a political future will be totally silent or evasive. Don't want to be in the lead pack of turncoats.
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Oculus Spirit [80977]
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Meh..I'd wager most of those votes were against Biden, and
Nov 6, 2020, 10:42 AM
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not for Trump.
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It's so much easier and safer to say
Nov 6, 2020, 10:44 AM
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"I haven't read the challenges yet, when I do, I'll release a statement"
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I think it's fair to wait for PA and GA before conceding.***
Nov 6, 2020, 10:58 AM
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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you're right***
Apr 19, 2018, 9:55 PM
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Re: Time for Trump to concede...
Nov 6, 2020, 11:26 AM
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I'll trade you one Trump concession for a Biden impeachment over HIS Ukraine call. Deal?
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bunch of yellabellies
Nov 6, 2020, 11:28 AM
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Re: Time for Trump to concede...
Nov 6, 2020, 12:10 PM
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The Repugs won't abandon Trump until it is clear that he has absolutely no political power (to damage them) left. Which, given his base, will be when he dies.
Q, just proposed that Trump will run again in 2024 on another thread. As long as Reps think that is a possibility they will not do anything that might pissshimoff.
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Re: Time for Trump to concede...
Nov 6, 2020, 12:28 PM
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i dont see trump quitting
its easy to see people voted twice, unless you believe that folks like joe more than barry lol
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Re: Time for Trump to concede...
Nov 6, 2020, 12:29 PM
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Evidently Rush Limbaugh just conceded on the radio that Biden has won
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