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Orange Blooded [3750]
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Second try- Hey vets- this is how I feel about the
Dec 5, 2017, 6:56 AM
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knee benders. Watching this brought tears to my eyes. Thank you for yr service to our country. Your debts can never be repaid! Pls watch before you comment. This is my second try posting- the first time the link messed up and went to wrong place due to mods auto editing the link I was using.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPNnsi2dJIQ
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Re: Second try- Hey vets- this is how I feel about the
Dec 5, 2017, 7:04 AM
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Awesome! Thanks for posting.
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Thanks for the share George!
Dec 5, 2017, 7:15 AM
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Powerful
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Thank You
Dec 5, 2017, 7:29 AM
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“Ever more people today have the means to live, but no means to live for.” Victor Frankl
It was an honor and privilege to serve this great country. Let us not be divided by currupt polotics, and put our focus on making America an even better place than she already is.
Hoo Ya
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My wife must have put onions in my eggs this morning
Dec 5, 2017, 7:29 AM
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Go Navy Beat Army
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Go Army Beat Navy....It Wasn't Onions
Dec 5, 2017, 9:42 AM
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It was you just missing being shipboard with all them cute Marines you saw in the vid
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Some powerful images in there. Good stuff.***
Dec 5, 2017, 7:43 AM
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Roger that.
Dec 5, 2017, 7:49 AM
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Thanks for posting GO TIGERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What does this have to do with Clemson football?***
Dec 5, 2017, 8:14 AM
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Re: What does this have to do with Clemson football?***
Dec 5, 2017, 8:16 AM
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NOT A ### N THING. WHY DOES THAT BOTHER YOU SNOWFLAKE.
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Re: What does this have to do with Clemson football?***
Dec 5, 2017, 8:27 AM
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You can always count on a liberal or two to respond.
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Re: What does this have to do with Clemson football?***
Dec 5, 2017, 2:17 PM
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Don’t think that is even liberalism, more like socialist/progressive
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Re: What does this have to do with Clemson football?***
Dec 5, 2017, 5:42 PM
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same thing.
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Re: What does this have to do with Clemson football?***
Dec 5, 2017, 9:13 AM
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Why is there always a need to place a label on everything? I consider myself a conservative, have family that served in the military, and haven't lost a second of sleep over the NFL protests. I also think the people outraged over it have vastly overreacted. Kneeling is considered respectful if you're proposing marriage, if you want to show respect to another person, when praying, or even in football when players kneel for an injuried teammate, but let some guys do it in front of the flag and everyone losses their minds? I'm also embarrassed when I see grown adults calling other adults names such as snowflakes whenever they don't share the same opinion. Are we seriously back in the 3rd grade and can't have a mature conversation with someone about our views without resorting to name calling?
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lol stopped at "proposing marriage" because what a ######
Dec 5, 2017, 9:32 AM
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comparison.
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Re: lol stopped at "proposing marriage" because what a ######
Dec 5, 2017, 11:43 AM
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Well the point was that in every other aspect the act of kneeling is a sign of respect, but in this case people want to make it out to be the most offensive thing they've ever seen or something. Personally, I'd like to have seen the players find a different way to protest that didn't divide so many, but I just don't see it as this thing that should cause so many people to be outraged. You can only be offended and outraged if you choose to be, which is ironic that so many of those outraged people are the ones calling other people snowflakes.
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lol stopped "sign of respect"
Dec 5, 2017, 5:16 PM
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Keep typing out those long ### responses that no one will read.
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Re: lol stopped "sign of respect"
Dec 5, 2017, 7:18 PM
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Keep interacting with other people as if you were a child. That seems to be working for you.
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Re: What does this have to do with Clemson football?***
Dec 5, 2017, 9:57 AM
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Ironically, you are actually the snowflake, given the abrupt sensitivity with which you responded. Btw, this is not intended as a commentary on the original post.
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Re: What does this have to do with Clemson football?***
Dec 20, 2017, 1:30 PM
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It bothers me that he thought this needed to be posted. Pushing tribalistic mentality into people. This is a dangerous day and time, and philosophy like his need be played out.
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Re: What does this have to do with Clemson football?***
Dec 5, 2017, 12:56 PM
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This has everything to do with football and every facet of our lives. We salute, we kneel, we protest, we #####, we praise and we have the right to do as we please as long as it's legal. We have the right to develop character and respect for those things that grant us all of these freedoms. It's not the flag, the constitution or any symbol of this great country that infringes on our right to these privileges, it's those humans who attempt to derive us of our rights. Appears to me the protests are aimed at the wrong target. Granted, our government does things that many of us may not approve but, we have a legitimate means for a peaceful protest.
And why do we have these many privileges? Because there were men and women who were willing to risk their lives to achieve our freedom from the injustices of the British. And we have been able to retain these privileges because there were men and women who, since our independence, have risked their lives. I proudly salute those men and women who have made it possible for me to enjoy life here in this great country.
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lol the military is stupid anyway. bunch of losers***
Dec 20, 2017, 10:41 AM
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You get up on the wrong side of the pew this morning...
Dec 20, 2017, 10:45 AM
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Baptist?
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I'm playing TNet Bingo
Dec 20, 2017, 12:54 PM
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I win if I get 1 more person to call me a snowflake
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Haha, ok then EOYOT and Merry Christmas.***
Dec 20, 2017, 1:10 PM
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Re: Second try- Hey vets- this is how I feel about the
Dec 5, 2017, 8:16 AM
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I personally know several vets who support kneeling. Do their opinions matter?
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Everyone’s opinion matters. And they are entitled to voice
Dec 5, 2017, 8:43 AM
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them. But that doesn’t mean there won’t be an ‘opposing’ response, consequences, or repercussions.
Just don’t criticize or try to silence me when I try to express my opinion.
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Re: Everyone’s opinion matters. And they are entitled to voice
Dec 5, 2017, 8:47 AM
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But you want to silence the NFL players right to express their opinion?
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Re: Everyone’s opinion matters. And they are entitled to voice
Dec 5, 2017, 9:28 AM
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Read what I wrote ‘09.
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Re: Sorry Co09 Your Voice Does Not Matter***
Dec 5, 2017, 6:30 PM
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My blue cord and cross rifles more than qualify me for this discussion.
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Re: Everyone’s opinion matters. And they are entitled to voice
Dec 5, 2017, 9:44 AM
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Why should a veteran face consequences over his opinion on such a matter?
Maybe if we all tried being decent people and listening to each other, that might work better.
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They Do But The VAST Majority of Vets Would Tell You
Dec 5, 2017, 9:46 AM
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Standing would be a much better option. The Benders are choosing to take away from others to selfishly push their agenda. I don't have issue with their cause, just don't hurt others who did you no harm to express your message.
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Re: They Do But The VAST Majority of Vets Would Tell You
Dec 5, 2017, 9:49 AM
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Vast majority? Totally disagree. The vast majority of white vets, sure.
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Re: They Do But The VAST Majority of Vets Would Tell You
Dec 5, 2017, 11:04 AM
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You’re off base here.
The vast majority of military Vets are white.
AND- the vast majority of military vets do disagree with kneeling.
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Re: They Do But The VAST Majority of Vets Would Tell You
Dec 5, 2017, 11:40 AM
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Most won't admit it, but it is a race issue with many of the people who are 'offended" by the kneeling. I'm not speaking for any person on here, and I'm not saying it's the case for 100% of people, but I've seen so many of the same people who say of the kkk and neo-nazi's that "I don't like what they stand for, but I support their right to peacefully protest" being way offended over this and asking for the players to be cut, with many even wanting to see the NFL go under over this.
Funny that so many including our president are so offended over this, but support the rights of groups that are in support of sides we literally fought wars against(nazi's and confederates). You can't tell me race doesn't play a major role in that.
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Re: They Do But The VAST Majority of Vets Would Tell You
Dec 5, 2017, 12:38 PM
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Unfortunately the other side of the aisle is unwilling to acknowledge this sad truth.
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You Don't Know Our Ethnic Veterans Like I Do
Dec 5, 2017, 12:21 PM
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Having led literally 100s of them in my former career and I would tell you almost without exception NONE of them blame societal inequities on our Anthem or Patriotism or our Nation. Racial inequity is caused by a series of complex social, historical and economic issues.
This won't get fixed by a bunch of folks disrespecting those who protect their very freedoms. This gets fixed by engagement, investment and common respect for our brothers and sisters.
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Re: You Don't Know Our Ethnic Veterans Like I Do
Dec 5, 2017, 2:26 PM
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Amen. It takes effort by all. Not entitlement but serious talk between all and each side helping the other
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Re: They Do But The VAST Majority of Vets Would Tell You
Dec 5, 2017, 2:23 PM
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### so now it’s only black vets voice that matters. You do know that the majority of veterans are white. Does that make them bad or racist because they are the majority. It seems that the white man is the single most group ever discriminated against
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Sorry, the pictures are very moving...
Dec 5, 2017, 9:30 AM
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but I wish he had used "America, the Beautiful", "God Bless America", The Star Spangled Banner," or even a combination of The Army, Air Force, Marine, anthems and the Naval Hymn, ending in "Taps" to be more effective. The song is one of those "fake patriotic, cash-ins" that people do to make money off somebody's anger that I find disgusting, not worthy of the great pictures. My two cents.
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Re: Sorry, the pictures are very moving...
Dec 5, 2017, 9:32 AM
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Disagree but respect yr opinion.+1
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Re: Sorry, the pictures are very moving...
Dec 5, 2017, 9:35 AM
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Like I said earlier you can always count on a liberal to throw their 2 cents in.
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And I honor...
Dec 5, 2017, 9:54 AM
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your opinion. How can anyone not feel a heart tug when witnessing a child accepting the triangular fold shroud banner from their parent's casket? Or a loved one in tears at a grave?
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People really need to get educated.
Dec 5, 2017, 10:03 AM
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Had it not been for those who fought under this flag the world would've been taken over by tyranny. Millions upon millions died in WW2 as a result mass murdering dictators. Everywhere this flag was raised in Europe and Asia it meant the liberation of millions from murderous regimes. We have problems but this nation has risen up time and time again against tyranny and injustice whether inside or outside of our borders. My grandfather was a crew member on a B17 in Europe during WW2. He always had respect for the flag. He saw firsthand the sacrifices made for freedom. He inspired my to do the same. As a man that has spent time overseas in the military I would encourage these people whining about injustices to go to some of these places I have been and live under their rule. They'll be ready to kiss the ground when they come back if they make it out alive.
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Re: People really need to get educated.
Dec 5, 2017, 10:06 AM
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Amen brother, I agree, some , no, many people who live here need to visit some overseas places and live there for 6 months, that's about 1/2 what a military deployment is/was. Then come back and I guarantee you will see this country through a very different eyes.
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Re: Second try- Hey vets- this is how I feel about the
Dec 5, 2017, 1:55 PM
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Ummmm, the knee-bending has nothing to do with the flag or the military. They are protesting about what they perceive as mistreatment of African-Americans by the police.
The idea that it somehow is against the U.S. or the Military is a false narrative pushed by the conservative media.
Facts matter.
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Re: Second try- Hey vets- this is how I feel about the
Dec 5, 2017, 2:32 PM
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But that is a false narrative too. Sure there have been a couple that have been overreach, but in those instances and in any that the officer has been found in the wrong they have been prosecuted. You can judge the entire police department off of a few. The black people, nor any group wants to be judged on a few of their own race, yet they do that to our law enforcement. Without our police officers trying to instill law and order our lives would be chaos
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Re: So Why Disrespect Our Anthem
Dec 5, 2017, 10:54 PM
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Did someone not say they are kneeling in protest of our police officers????
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That's not the way some of us see it.
Dec 5, 2017, 5:26 PM
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We were taught to stand at attention during the Star Spangled Banner and raising of the flag, with our hands over our hearts. Or military salute for military and ex-military. Kneeling during the anthem to me is disrespectful to our flag, our country and those who have sacrificed so much to keep us free. Feel free to protest whatever you feel is an injustice but find another way.
That's why I'm not watching the NFL and am not supporting its sponsors.
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Re: Second try- Hey vets- this is how I feel about the
Dec 5, 2017, 9:05 PM
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Well tnet friends,I didn't mean to stir up a hornets nest here- just to tell the vets on our board that I appreciate their many sacrifices for our country.
Whether the protesters intend to harm the vets feelings or not is not the point- the point is that most vets do take offense. For you libs, what happened to your principle of absolutely destroying some person who innocently uses a term that some protected group or minority could find offensive- even though they mean no offense or had no idea they could be offending someone. These flag protesters know they are offending most vets but you are giving them a pass. Most vets would also say they are willing to risk their lives to protect yr right of free speech and that they should have the right to say what they want- but as a society, we should scorn the actions of these folks offending the feeling of the vets as strongly as we do when someone says something offensive to other groups or minorities.
Just my 2 cents- thanks for all yr responses both positive and negative- I am sorry it took so long to follow up- I've been really busy today and just sat down from work.
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Re: Second try- Hey vets- this is how I feel about the
Dec 20, 2017, 1:28 PM
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Youroffendong most vets, because most vets are whites . All vets don’t agree with you though, including myself. And yes, racism is tied into the equation.
They are kneeling against white supremacy and the systems of it. Police brutality, whatever you want to add in. The prison system.
The whole system has been and still is setup against blacks. If you do not know that laws passed throughout post civil war American history were against blacks and still are til this day , you should take a history class.
We kneel because 75% of blacks are locked up, when they make up what 15% of the population? We kneel for many reasons
We kneelers-
We,
Respect the flag Respect the Country Respect our Veterans
We do not respect
-Racists, or people who tell us when and where we may protest. For you are a part of the system.
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Re: Second try- Hey vets- this is how I feel about the
Dec 5, 2017, 10:26 PM
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I am calling out the little coward who gave this a TD..........you are pathetic......Go Tigers!!!!!!
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