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Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side


Mar 26, 2020, 9:44 PM

I’m fairly apolitical, but above all I am a scientist and as such open to both sides of a debate to a fault. In terms of the “politics” of our response to this crisis -

I think non-Trump supporters (and perhaps some of his supporters) are frustrated by the overly rosy picture he paints for himself. He exaggerates the good aspects of things, including his team’s response to the crisis, as well as objective numbers. Yes, I hope to god that chloroquine is helpful with this virus. But, the evidence was based on <30 patients treated with it. The evidence is encouraging but anecdotal at this point. We can’t say we have “powerful drugs” that are a godsend - this is an overstatement, and simply not true at this point.

This, combined with his Initial downplaying of the pandemic repeatedly, asserting that when we had 15 total cases, those people would recover and the number would soon be down to zero - it’s just completely wrong, and unrealistic. He has never been able to admit his faults, which is what can be incredibly frustrating.

On the other side, I can see how it comes off as people wanting trump to fail. If you take what he says at face value, others’ response to him seems out of place and unnecessarily personally critical. I think we all want the economy to turn around and people to get well. I’d love if Trump has a personal hand in house improvements. But specifically with regard to mobilizing national stockpiles of equipment, encouraging new equipment production, and inter-state medical communication, he has let me down.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:13 PM

I think a president needs to project “calm.” Obama would’ve taken the same route as Trump. Is the alternative a panicked response?

It’s not,

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Mar 27, 2020, 11:11 AM

Obama wouldn't have taken the approach Trump took. He would have acted calm, but he wouldn't have spoke as reckless as Trump did.

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Mar 27, 2020, 12:33 PM

LOL - Obama would have somehow claimed the virus to be racist, especially if it affected any of his "sons". Most racist president in history. The division he created in just 8 years will take a lifetime to mend.

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Obama would have lied, contradicted his own experts and ranted about “fake news “? I disagree.***


Mar 27, 2020, 11:51 AM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]



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Mar 26, 2020, 10:20 PM

I'm not a Trump fan, but I think he's doing the best that he can with what he brings to the table, re: empathy and general human skills. He's assembled a terrific team, they are phenomenal, as long as he stays out of their way, we'll be fine. We won't be open by Easter, he knows that, but he wants the economy to be good, he can't stand the thought of it being in a shambles if he leaves office.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:31 PM

With out the boost the economy got as fter Trump was elected we would be looking at a depression. Yes, he is not a polished speaker and sometimes harps on things too much and sets himself up to be quoted out of context. But look at what the House did with an economic and medical emergency to push their agenda to see that there is no viable alternative.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

Good, thoughtful posts with exception of the comment that trump has “empathy”. I have heard words expressing that but no demonstration of it. Anyone who mocks the disabled is as far from empathetic as he can be. And bullying is certainly not showing empathy.

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Mar 27, 2020, 3:27 PM

@poppa doc -I totally meant to imply that he has limited empathy skills.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

Good, thoughtful posts with exception of the comment that trump has “empathy”. I have heard words expressing that but no demonstration of it. Anyone who mocks the disabled is as far from empathetic as he can be. And bullying is certainly not showing empathy.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

Good, thoughtful posts with exception of the comment that trump has “empathy”. I have heard words expressing that but no demonstration of it. Anyone who mocks the disabled is as far from empathetic as he can be. And bullying is certainly not showing empathy.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

Good, thoughtful posts with exception of the comment that trump has “empathy”. I have heard words expressing that but no demonstration of it. Anyone who mocks the disabled is as far from empathetic as he can be. And bullying is certainly not showing empathy.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

Good, thoughtful posts with exception of the comment that trump has “empathy”. I have heard words expressing that but no demonstration of it. Anyone who mocks the disabled is as far from empathetic as he can be. And bullying is certainly not showing empathy.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

Good, thoughtful posts with exception of the comment that trump has “empathy”. I have heard words expressing that but no demonstration of it. Anyone who mocks the disabled is as far from empathetic as he can be. And bullying is certainly not showing empathy.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

Good, thoughtful posts with exception of the comment that trump has “empathy”. I have heard words expressing that but no demonstration of it. Anyone who mocks the disabled is as far from empathetic as he can be. And bullying is certainly not showing empathy.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

Good, thoughtful posts with exception of the comment that trump has “empathy”. I have heard words expressing that but no demonstration of it. Anyone who mocks the disabled is as far from empathetic as he can be. And bullying is certainly not showing empathy.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

Good, thoughtful posts with exception of the comment that trump has “empathy”. I have heard words expressing that but no demonstration of it. Anyone who mocks the disabled is as far from empathetic as he can be. And bullying is certainly not showing empathy.

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:36 PM

Sorry about multiple posts- I don’t know how that happened

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:43 PM

Most likely because you kept hitting the post button while it was slowly executing the first time you hit it. Been there done that. ??

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:49 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

If you're using a iPhone, iPad etc you can push full site button and then scroll to the right and delete the other posts. FYI

Other than that, good post. Read the yacp
Post. Hydroclorophil?? Whatever it is doesn't appear to be the wonder drug some think.

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Mar 27, 2020, 11:59 AM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

I think you were just making sure you got your point across ??

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Mar 26, 2020, 10:46 PM

I think the real and only problem is that certain people, especially the media don't like President Trump. By all rational accounts his administration is doing a very good job responding to the crisis.

Back when he was banning flights from China and shutting down the border he was being shouted down as a RASCIST. When people like New York's mayor weren't too busy name-calling and criticizing him for making these life-saving decisions they were telling their own citizens to go out and mingle in large crowds, festivals, etc...because the Corona Virus thing was being overblown by the President and he was being a RACIST.

Fast forward a few weeks and now the media and the same New York Mayor have done an about face but INSTEAD of appreciating the quick action the Trump administration for being on top of this mess, they're now complaining that he isn't doing enough. Give...me...a...break.

When people cant control their emotions they lose their objectivity, all of it. Some people in this country hate the President so much that they're literally rooting for him to fail. They hate him more than they love their country, or probably anybody else for that matter. They're sick.

My advice to you is to take a good long hard look in the mirror and ask yourself if anything I said struck a chord and makes you angry. If it did, then it's time for some self reflection.

During a national crisis (or a crisis at work, etc....) people who wine and complain but don't take any action or personal accountability to make what they're winning and complaining about better are not part of the solution. They're part of the problem. America is a great nation because because the people who built it were problem solvers. The non-problem solving class in America is about as helpful and historically relevant as the the colonists who supported Kimg George during the Revolutionary War.

Try being part of the solution.

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Very well said. Couldn't agree more...


Mar 26, 2020, 11:09 PM

...there are multiple videos of NYC officials urging New Yorkers (as recent as early March) to continue to use mass transit and attend festivals and go to restaurants cause they NY tough blah blah blah and that's how they roll. But now it's Trumps fault cause it hit the fan after they were urging New Yorkers to just go about business as usual. Indeed, encouraging New Yorkers to gather in crowds and show this virus who's the boss. The hypocrisy is incredible.

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Re: Very well said. Couldn't agree more...


Mar 27, 2020, 8:32 AM

Yep, after Trump closed travel from China, NYC urged people to carry on with their lives.Ignore the racist in the White House.
Now NYC mayor is blaming Trump and China has now closed travel into China.

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Mar 27, 2020, 3:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

It's easy to spot Fox News viewers. You don't get the truth from Fox, you get the Fox/Trump version of the truth.

All media is biased, but Fox News can legitimately be considered State-run TV.

For example, when Trump "banned" flights from China, he didn't. He banned Chinese from flying to the U.S. American's were free to come and go and the flights continued for about a month when the Airlines ended them. Do the research, this is a fact. That's why he was accused, by idiots, of racism.

He should have banned the actual flights themselves, not the people on them.

That among a host of problems brought about by Trump's incompetence that you won't see on Fox.

At the same time, you won't see much of any good he's done is you just watch MSNBC.

Do more research, read other sites...try to get the whole truth, not just the Trump-truth.

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Reasonable illustration of all sides...


Mar 26, 2020, 11:31 PM



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Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side


Mar 27, 2020, 12:37 AM

”But specifically with regard to mobilizing national stockpiles of equipment, encouraging new equipment production, and inter-state medical communication, he has let me down”

Jesus f’n Christ. Grow a pair and stop looking to the federal gov for all of your answers. NYC collects the most tax revenue in the world, why don’t they have stockpiles already? Oh yea, let some Iowa farmer pay for poor planning. It’s a freaking flu, looks like spring break here, at least 5k people in Lowes today when I went, and no dead bodies... scientist huh, why don’t YOU create a vaccine??? Do something!

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I am an anesthesiologist


Mar 27, 2020, 5:51 AM

I am literally working around the clock, with my face 6 inches away from these sick people, staring into their mouth to put a breathing tube in. That is the job I signed up for, and I’m happy to do it. What I’m not happy about is the lack of basic equipment to keep my safe while i do that, so I can stay safe and not infect my family as well.

I am part of a team that is actively researching the most effective treatment strategies in the icu. That’s what I’m doing sir. I don’t appreciate the vitriol response toward a fairly mild post.

I’m not looking to the federal government for all answers - however, are you suggesting looking to the state government is somehow more ideologically respectful? The problem here is we have not just a national, but global pandemic. Was 9/11 just a New York problem? Were you sad they received federal funding to help the myriad of problems? The point here is with regards to logistics of supplies, interstate communication is necessary. Otherwise, you have South Carolina bidding against North Carolina to buy N95 masks to keep their citizens safe, and resultant price gouging. I don’t know what a poor farmer in Iowa has to do with anything - poor folks in all states will be hit by both the economic reality of this and the cost of medical supplies amongst everything else.

Finally, This is not just the flu. Again, i am an actual doctor, this has been explained in literally every post by anyone in the last two weeks if you care to look. I suggest you take a breath, stop getting so angry at folks, and make an effort to see beyond your worldview

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Well, get off TigerNet and get to work!!


Mar 27, 2020, 8:23 AM

Because you can put people to sleep, and administer medications to mask pain, doesn’t give you the right to slam our president who is doing ALL he can in this crisis. You SURE as hell aren’t going to convince me, to think like you. For goodness sake

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Well, get off TigerNet and get to work!!


Mar 27, 2020, 8:23 AM [ in reply to I am an anesthesiologist ]

Because you can put people to sleep, and administer medications to mask pain, doesn’t give you the right to slam our president who is doing ALL he can in this crisis. You SURE as hell aren’t going to convince me, to think like you. For goodness sake

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Well, get off TigerNet and get to work!!


Mar 27, 2020, 8:23 AM [ in reply to I am an anesthesiologist ]

Because you can put people to sleep, and administer medications to mask pain, doesn’t give you the right to slam our president who is doing ALL he can in this crisis. You SURE as hell aren’t going to convince me, to think like you. For goodness sake

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Mar 27, 2020, 7:46 AM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

KeoweeIndians, u should grow a pair yourself. Sounds like u can dish it out but can’t take it. Every time someone outside of FoxNews mentions something negative about Trump, they are wrong. The virus is not Trumps fault but his response has been weak. Don’t look at FoxNews polls, look at number of “known cases”. He is weak. Weak leader. Extremely poor management skills. He would have been fired long ago if he was CEO of a corporation. It really isn’t his fault, though. He was and is a reality TV Star and real estate developer that was able to move forward by conning people. He’s great with PR and window dressing. It is truly sad if you don’t realize he has conned you. He has. Grow a pair and diversify your news sources, or should I say your current singular news source.

If FoxNews and Trump have convinced u that real Americans from rural areas are toting the rock for the evil Urban socialists, do a quick google search for “donor states” or “Which state receives the most federal funding?”. The dem states are pay more in taxes n receive less in funding. Rural interior is the reverse. FACT. Grow a pair big enough to seek other news sources and find the facts. BTW, Trump does not want you to seek any alternate news sources.

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Mar 27, 2020, 8:17 AM

Perhaps you should take your own advise, BIG HOUSE. Judging by your comments, I would say you have a rather "small set yourself." Have a good day!!

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Government is not designed for this situation


Mar 27, 2020, 7:29 AM

#1. You’re not apolitical so please, try being more honest.
#2. Government is terrible at just about everything it does, sans taking people’s money and using it poorly.
#3. It is easy to throw hand grenades at Trump as it can always be better, especially trying to work within federal govt.
#4. Part of his job is to ease fear and provide hope. Perhaps your “apolitical” mind can grasp that.
#5. Your “doctor” title doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things regarding assessing Trump or others. The fact you don’t understand that is illuminating in itself.

Appreciate what you do, my wife is an intensive care nurse so I have skin in the game too. Be safe.

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Re: Government is not designed for this situation


Mar 27, 2020, 7:52 AM

“Your doctor title doesn’t mean anything in the grand scheme of things” ??????

Shame on you. That’s pathetic.

I could throw bunch of 9/11 analogies at you, but there’s no need, your comment is shallow.

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another clueless, mindless troll


Mar 27, 2020, 12:34 PM

You really need to take your meds. Maybe the doc can help you out.

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Re: Government is not designed for this situation


Mar 27, 2020, 7:55 AM [ in reply to Government is not designed for this situation ]

Why keep defending a con man? Like you I agree government is far from efficient. We happen to have a buffoon in office right now. It’s happened in the past. He’s not a good president. He’s done some things right. Tax cut was nice. Deregulation has been great. But to defend him at every turn is pathetic. He is a con man.

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Mar 27, 2020, 8:26 AM

You are ignorant Big House

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Re: Government is not designed for this situation


Mar 27, 2020, 11:45 AM

I’m not gonna call you ignorant. I’m not gonna stoop that low.

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Another idiotic post


Mar 27, 2020, 12:38 PM [ in reply to Re: Government is not designed for this situation ]

As usual. From someone who knows nothing about what I believe or address what I said.

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Mar 27, 2020, 8:12 AM

As a scientist, what are your thoughts on what these scientist are saying?

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/24/12-experts-questioning-the-coronavirus-panic/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=91b773d84140cd5090c0121360c977777ac61d0c-1585305829-0-AaHFZhcUXdUlMRI_pcNfy2MGAtMwDFbjCYfMq5oMl3WujBUAdWi8uq0-2gE2w6pSeWdwIxh9UJqHxi26muTi5bqawDjYUFdMfkwMiO0TSl_06WSQHVKm9dHtLeBqJbRS8sawtGxRilp8kcVxIBaU7OvVWkXsiv8gZ9xopad4p6aCWT06wSLIn6lF6_sVL-KTZoS5KcXauq_tYH_NW8WHW4c_Mpl96OWzg7Nhc9iBlE-dL5oxQz0KwArPeANunmogyiKpB4ulY5YLlPknKBVZKTA1lnKagoUpJbCz5mbohPiRFCj1LwzZtnnsYn9LYTmqFsGKSe3Z0-4B_pzlax75Rn8Tp0qOWB3bfbIr_LApSoNy

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Mar 27, 2020, 8:18 AM

For God sake. President Trump is not to blame for logistics in this mess. He has done an excellent job getting people around him to do their best with this threat, and getting the money to try to save our economy. Quit whining and trying to blame everything on him. You are being ridiculous.

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Mar 27, 2020, 8:48 AM

Let’s face it.Shamefully many want Trump to fail for all the wrong reasons.They hang on every word he says waiting for him to misspeak for the gotcha moment.I understand people want him gone but please put forth a viable alternative.Right now there are none.

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Speaking entirely for myself....


Mar 27, 2020, 8:43 AM

I did not vote for Bill Clinton or Barack Obama. However, it was my hope and prayer, for the sake of all Americans, that they turned-out to be great Presidents.

Conversely, the vast majority of people who did not vote for Trump never want to see him succeed. No matter what he does or says (good, bad, or indifferent), he is widely and harshly criticized by the left.

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Sometimes good things fall apart so better things can fall together.


I think some good points have been brought up in this thread


Mar 27, 2020, 8:49 AM

In between all of the unnecessary shouting and name calling. Specifically, maybe Trumps statements are the best way he knows how to “project calm” which I agree is important. It just bothers me when it is a blatantly untrue statement. However, the sentiment may be there. Agree that the president, as a singular person, takes way too much flack for what happens nationally. He is only one man, like all of us. I understand the frustration that comes with the “other side” ignoring outcomes and hoping for political gain or mudslinging in the process, that is the unfortunate state of our country. We aren’t all going to agree. To another posters’ point, career “status” as a doctor means nothing with political opinion, you’re absolutely correct there - you’ll see I’m only referring to discussion of the actual medical facts when alluding to this. Praying for healing amongst everyone here.

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Re: I think some good points have been brought up in this thread


Mar 27, 2020, 9:11 AM

Trump is a Long Island New York yankee (no slam against my many yankee friends). He is not a politician. He does not filter his words and he says what he is thinking. Is that always good for PR? No, but at least we know where he is coming from. He exaggerates .... often big time ..... kind of like an obnoxious Long Island .... well you know. There are southerners like that too ..... maybe a little more subtle. There are New Yorkers (most in fact) that are not like that. I was born in a hospital about three miles from where Trump was born (same year), so I think I can say these things ..... with immunity! That is who he is and we knew he was like that when we elected him! Look at the pathetic alternatives on the other side. Is it more important to say the right things or do the right things .... both would be nice.

In retrospect, I am sure we will find things he could have done better. But he is not in charge of stockpiling medical equipment for a "worst case" scenario health crisis. Should he be? Why don't we ask former presidents Obama, Bush, and Clinton. Would they have been any more prepared? Why didn't they oversee stockpiling the PPE equipment and ventilators? What would have been the results if any of them had been in office when this occurred? I think it is time to support the President the best we can and if you don't like him, you will get your chance to remove him in November. Of course this is a huge health crisis, but for many here and across this country that is not is what it is about.

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Apolitical in this thread


Mar 27, 2020, 9:16 AM

Disappeared like the threat of a thunderstorm in a drought...just teases...and blows on over.

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Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side


Mar 27, 2020, 9:02 AM

Nobody needs to "want" trump to fail. He manages that all on his own. It's just another whiny bit of victimization from his fan club.

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Mar 27, 2020, 9:21 AM

Not getting in a pi$$ing contest with you never Trumpers.When all you have a viable candidate for the presidency,please share that with us.

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Mar 27, 2020, 11:09 AM

FOX NEWS ALERT:
You have been conned.

I don’t wish that Trump fails. I think Bill Maher is the only person I’ve heard make that statement, but it’s a constant accusation among the blind followers of the con man. I’m a republican, but more importantly I’m an American. I want him to succeed. But I have grown a pair large enough to call him out when he lies to me and my fellow Americans. I am joined by Romney, McCain, Bush, Bush and long list of others that call him out. They know he is not a republican but a con man. The alternative position is led by Lindsey Graham who has no balls and has let Trump hijack the Republican party.

FIX NEWS ALERT:
You have been conned.

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Mar 27, 2020, 1:41 PM

NEWS ALERT!

ALL POLITICIANS LIE! The difference is that Trump is a bloviator who just exaggerates and lies about meaningless stuff ......... like how many people were at his inauguration .... not critical things like "You can keep your doctor". Who cares if he boasts and likes to pat himself on the back, as long as he does the right things for the country which he has. Or the alternative is to have one of the finest men who has ever led (term used very loosely in this case) the country, Jimmy Carter, who made a miserable president. Quite frankly, I had rather have a president who is both a fine upstanding individual and great leader, but until then I'll settle for a flawed human being who is at least doing the right things.

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Mar 27, 2020, 11:44 AM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

CUGRAD1980, are you suggesting that in the absence of a viable alternative as president, we should ignore trumps misdeeds?

IF SO, you have a fundamental a misunderstanding of a democracy, and I really doubt that’s the case.

IF NOT, then we all have an obligation to recognize the misdeeds of a sitting president.

This is not tricky stuff folks. Simply a matter of calling a spade a spade and being honest with ourselves and our fellow Americans.

If someone does not recognize trumps misdeeds, I’m perfectly fine with that, I respect their position.

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Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side


Mar 27, 2020, 1:43 PM

With all due respect,Big House,the United States is a Federal Republic.If we’re we’re a democracy,and speaking of misdeeds,Hillary would be president.Am guessing you are not for Trump and that’s ok.I guess the constant lying about Trump is fine.Russia and impeachment hoax just to name a few.So it’s plain to see I disagree with you about Trump.We could elect a president who doesn’t know the big red button from a door handle.So at least give that some thought.TIA.

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Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side


Mar 27, 2020, 2:04 PM

You have been conned.

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Mar 27, 2020, 2:24 PM

Maybe I have been conned but not by Trump.The other side trying to make us believe Joe is a moderate.That’s one con job they won’t sell come November.

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Mar 27, 2020, 3:11 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

You r so right CUGRAD1980, we are federal republic. I stand corrected.

So, are you suggesting that in the absence of a viable alternative as president, we should ignore trumps misdeeds?

IF SO, you have a fundamental a misunderstanding of a federal republic, and I really doubt that’s the case.

IF NOT, then we all have an obligation to recognize the misdeeds of a sitting president.

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Mar 27, 2020, 3:34 PM

We must also recognize the influence peddling by the presumptive democrat nominee.I realize he doesn’t remember doing it,but the evidence against him is clear.

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Mar 27, 2020, 4:24 PM

Joe has been in the pockets of corporations for decades.

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Mar 27, 2020, 1:46 PM [ in reply to Re: Reasonable post that may help others see the “other” side ]

Are you suggesting that we ignore all of the good things he has done because of his imperfections as a human being. His basic problem is that he is draining the "swamp". Swamp dwellers love the swamp and all that goes with it more than they love the country. Don't doubt for a second that all of the Republicans that are backing him hate his guts. They are doing it because they want to ride his coat tails and be re-elected. They will all be glad when he is gone so they can again do what swamp creatures do ........ slither around and look for opportunities to enrich themselves.

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I hope when this is over, we can get over Trump


Mar 27, 2020, 11:35 AM

or Bernie, or politics in general. Just gets so old and tiring hearing everything be about politics. This is a virus. They've been around longer than democrats, republicans, democracy, and governments.

Trump won't save us. Bernie won't save us. You, your family, your neighbors, your local community, and God will save you.

Just my take.

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Rev 22:20***


Mar 27, 2020, 11:50 AM



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Mar 27, 2020, 12:47 PM

Agree completely. It is hard to sort through the partisian bickering and yelling to find good info.

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Mar 27, 2020, 12:50 PM

Let you down? Lol The people with the most knowledge of the situation disagree.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/26/who-chief-praises-trumps-leadership-in-handling-coronavirus-pandemic/


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