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What % of the 68 teams who make the big dance are highly
Feb 5, 2021, 1:21 PM
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ranked? All? Just wondering if being one of the 68 means you are ranked in the top 68? If we are ranked in the top 68 ap ratings will we make it in? Not sure about that but shouldn’t we be?
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Re: What % of the 68 teams who make the big dance are highly
Feb 5, 2021, 1:26 PM
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This is not a serious question. Right?
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Re: What % of the 68 teams who make the big dance are highly
Feb 5, 2021, 1:28 PM
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define "highly ranked"
Normally, about 35-40 are considered to be "top 40" teams with the other 28 or so being a random assortment. It really comes down to whether or not the teams with the Automatic bids are the best teams. For exampple, if Boston College wins the ACC, it will drive down the % of "top teams" in the tourney. Same applies for each conference.
If you are ranked 50/60 you aren't getting in. Even 30s can be an issue due to "eye tests".
My biggest issue with at large, they tend to reward inconsistent play over consistent play. Thus if you have two 9-9 teams that are both 20-12, they would rather take a team that has a few upsets and some ugly losses to bad teams over a team that beats the lesser teams and loses to good teams. Odd, I know.
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There are 32 Automatic Bids
Feb 5, 2021, 1:46 PM
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If the best team in each conference also won their conference tournament, there would be 36 slots for other teams. But, as pointed out already, if a team that would not be invited surprisingly wins their conference tournament, they get one of those automatic bids.
Clemson will need to be in the Top 30 to get serious consideration.
Our remaining schedule looks 100% winnable. If we win, we are in. If we choke away 3-4 of our remaining games, we're out.
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Re: There are 32 Automatic Bids
Feb 5, 2021, 2:53 PM
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If today was the last day.... the Tigers are IN. Remaining Schedule is favorable . I like the chances but we’ve already seen what CAN happen.
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This team is WAAAAAY too unpredictable...
Feb 5, 2021, 3:26 PM
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to have any real high level of confidence about making the Tournament.
If they play like they are capable, we should be in good shape.
On the other hand, if they play like they did against UVa, Georgia Tech, and Dook, all bets are off.
Winning four of the next seven should solidify it.
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Re: What % of the 68 teams who make the big dance are highly
Feb 5, 2021, 5:08 PM
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My point was that the “best” (top 68) teams according to whatever ranking service don’t make it to the tournament. Shouldn’t we or anyone else who is ranked top 68 be in the tournament?
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Re: What % of the 68 teams who make the big dance are highly
Feb 5, 2021, 5:19 PM
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No, that's not how it works. And the AP doesn't rank 68 teams. They rank 25 and then "others" which is typically about 10 more or so that receive a handful of votes.
There are automatic bids for conference champions. Then, the rest of the teams are determined by a selection committee that reviews several different criteria and metrics to fill in at-large bids. None of those metrics are based on people voting for top 25 (AP, coaches, etc...all are irrelevant just like football polls are irrelevant to the CFP).
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Re: What % of the 68 teams who make the big dance are highly
Feb 5, 2021, 5:21 PM
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Yeah, in an ideal world that's true. But they're so many teams in basketball and unlike football, ivy league type conferences get an auto bid.
But it's been explained well in previous posts. That's one reason that you end up with good teams in the nit... And when I say good, team(s) that may be ranked in 40's as explained above. That said, you do end up with most teams in the top 60. Hth
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Yes, it should be the best 68 teams.
Feb 5, 2021, 10:16 PM
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But instead, it’s conference championship winners with automatic bids plus whatever mid-majors are deemed worthy of at-large bids.
People forget that mid-majors weren’t hyped as much 20-30 years ago like they are now. Thus, it’s harder for a solid power 5 team to get in these days than it used to be.
Basically, you need to be a top 30-35 team to get in, unless you’re a conference champion or a mid-major.
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