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Heisman Winner [111389]
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Now that we are ushering in a new era of 1950's
Jun 28, 2018, 11:37 AM
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social and political conservatism, I was just thinking of all of the things i am going to miss, short skirts, color television, sex on the first date, trips to the planned parenthood clinic, and of course beej's. I also assume anil will be out and likely one of the first things legislated back into the closet among the homosexuals, cross dressers, and drug addicts.
Regardless, if this is what it takes to save america, I am on board. And I also must give thanks to all of the brave conservatives that made this happen, you stuck to your guns and will be rewarded by shaping our future into the past.
I am headed down to the soda shop if anyone wants to join me, I heard that Wolf Man jack is in attendance and there might be square dancing.
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1950's? heck no. we're going for the 1920s***
Jun 28, 2018, 11:38 AM
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Re: 1950's? heck no. we're going for the 1920s***
Jun 28, 2018, 11:39 AM
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that was a time of liberalism.
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not on the supreme court. we had
Jun 28, 2018, 11:40 AM
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the Lochner decision and all the substantive due process right to contract rulings that shut out the new deal until '37.
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Re: not on the supreme court. we had
Jun 28, 2018, 11:41 AM
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yes, but people were having fun, unlike the leave it to beaver era we are embarking on now.
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Yeah, well the 20's didn't end so well
Jun 28, 2018, 12:36 PM
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There was a hangover.
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thanks to FDR's socialism***
Jun 28, 2018, 12:39 PM
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Re: thanks to FDR's socialism***
Jun 28, 2018, 1:39 PM
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which was followed by 30 years of prosperity and the formation of our middle class.
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Oculus Spirit [97664]
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That happened in the 50's fwiw***
Jun 28, 2018, 1:55 PM
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Re: That happened in the 50's fwiw***
Jun 28, 2018, 8:51 PM
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yes, the 50s followed the 40s
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Re: thanks to FDR's socialism***
Jun 29, 2018, 7:07 PM
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The prosperity was due to war time economy.
Depression was finally killed by WWII and that boon lasted till in the 50s and 60s. GI bill did as much to foster the middle class as anything.
Sorry, but the causality you claim does not exist.
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Re: Flashback!
Jun 28, 2018, 12:14 PM
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you'll fit right into this brave new world, congrats
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Yeah, sometimes those "copy image address" things
Jun 28, 2018, 12:38 PM
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dont paste well....
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Oculus Spirit [79400]
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Remember not too long ago when you were all giddy about
Jun 28, 2018, 12:21 PM
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conservative's "getting left behind", and how they were dying off, progress was inevitable, right side of history, blah blah blah?
What changed? I think it's upsetting a lot of you people who are just now realizing a lot of people don't agree with your fantasy land political ideals.
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Well, they are dying off.
Jun 28, 2018, 12:35 PM
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Not that people need to be giddy about it, but the data as there.
Trump's win isn't indicative that conservatives are stronger than ever. Plenty of Obama supporters voted for him due to Hillary's inept campaign. Voter turnout was terrible for two #### candidates. A lot of factors came into play. Trump didn't even get the majority of the popular vote. And many have expressed their regret of voting for him now that it's over.
Besides, Trump's not even a true conservative, so that's not good evidence.
GOP majority in Congress? That simply followed our nation's trend of voting against the ruling party once the president comes into power.
Toss in some fun gerrymandering over the years as well.
The Boomers are dying off, and they are strongly conservative. The white majority is slowly dwindling and will become the minority by the 2040s. Millennials are the first generation in U.S. history to identify as majority liberal.
Sorry, man. All the data points to conservatism as we know it is slowly fading. The last two election results don't disprove that.
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I'm not worried in the least.
Jun 28, 2018, 12:42 PM
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lots of hippies are now conservatives. When the snowflakes see what is taken from them to give to lazy poors, they'll wake up
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Re: I'm not worried in the least.
Jun 29, 2018, 9:16 AM
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You really think you are about to get a windfall of cash?
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Oculus Spirit [79400]
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Maybe, maybe not
Jun 28, 2018, 12:46 PM
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Millennials may identify as majority liberal, but does their behavior really reflect that? The rise of things like Uber, Airbnb, etc. point to a desire for less government regulation and interference. Most of my more liberal friends and family slowly but surely have tempered their bleeding hearts as they get older and incomes rise. My big time Bernie buddy was just bisching to me about his new F-150's property taxes the other week. I just had to laugh.
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I think economically...
Jun 28, 2018, 12:59 PM
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All roads lead to conservatism eventually. We don't like people touching our ####### money, especially the government. The more you make, the more you want others to #### off when it comes to messing with it.
But when it comes to the social issues in our nation, we are on a hard, fast track to liberalism. Look at all that has changed in just 10 years.
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Thats a diverging road.
Jun 28, 2018, 1:27 PM
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One of those ideas won;t make it. Liberalism and people not touching our money don't work well together.
Which rationale will be given up first?
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Sure they can.
Jun 28, 2018, 1:33 PM
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You can be socially liberal and still believe in fiscal conservatism. Like me. I want people to have the freedom to live their lives and have all rights afforded by the Constitution, but I'm tired of the increased government spending, taxation, and waste.
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Oculus Spirit [80978]
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That kind of thought doesn't pay for college educations
Jun 28, 2018, 1:40 PM
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or guaranty a livable minimum wage, or allow everyone who shows up a spot as a citizen.
At some point, all that requires money to pay for it. Where will it come from?
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Huh?
Jun 28, 2018, 1:43 PM
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What all requires money to pay for it?
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Oculus Spirit [80978]
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college? raising the minimum wage? paying for people who
Jun 28, 2018, 1:55 PM
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show up here with no job and are automatically turned into citizens?
All of that is free?
Are those not liberal ideas that have been asked for in the last few years?
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To be fair, they do attempt to make the argument that these
Jun 28, 2018, 1:59 PM
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poor illegal immigrants are paying lots in taxes.
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Re: To be fair, they do attempt to make the argument that these
Jun 28, 2018, 9:00 PM
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correct me if I am wrong, but aren't you a millennial lol?, Lakebum1®
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Re: college? raising the minimum wage? paying for people who
Jun 28, 2018, 2:00 PM
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I'm talking about social liberalism. LGBT rights. No torture. Smoke a joint.
What you described deals with fiscal issues, and I recognize that those have big price tags on them that make them unrealistic. I'm against wasteful, increased spending. Like a bloated military budget and building a pointless wall.
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I've never met a liberal that stopped with the "free" things***
Jun 28, 2018, 2:35 PM
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Oculus Spirit [79400]
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I know we live in a modern bizarro world, and the classical
Jun 28, 2018, 1:47 PM
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definition of liberalism no longer applies to many who call themselves liberal....but I don't think that ideology you're talking about is what's being pushed by Democrats and liberals in 2018. I'd say that stance would be considered more conservative or libertarian, and maybe I should have used libertarian instead of conservative.
I think most normal people feel that way, but neither party is really doing anything to represent those wishes. Where we may differ is that I see the Democratic party as being the antithesis of that, and Republicans are just kind of wishy washy do nothings that at best I can hope won't do anything too drastic to wreck my wallet or lecture me about some diversity/SJW bullshid.
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Until I see Congress spend one penny less
Jun 28, 2018, 4:19 PM
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I'm not on board that we're ever going to be fiscally conservative.
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We won't.
Jun 28, 2018, 5:09 PM
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That was made very evident when the Tea Party people were elected and proceeded to spend and spend after taking big money donations.
Both parties are paid too well to stop spending.
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Well, there goes the fiscal conservative argument then***
Jun 28, 2018, 9:43 PM
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My original point...
Jul 2, 2018, 12:34 PM
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Was that the individual (you and me, all the rest of us) eventually follow the path to conservatism economically because of what it does to us with our personal finances. Our politicians, however, are another story.
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Gen Z is conservative, however, and millennials will
Jun 29, 2018, 6:45 AM
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become more conservative as they age as every generation does. Remember the Boomers were hippies before they were Reaganites.
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Re: Gen Z is conservative, however, and millennials will
Jun 29, 2018, 7:31 AM
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It's funny that everyone on this board just accepts as fact the notion that you get more conservative with age.
Personality traits tend to remain stable through your lifetime. There is some research that suggests people are less open to new ideas and are more bigoted as they get older, but that doesn't mean liberals become conservatives.
Most of the reason for the shift is generational replacement. It's the same reason young people are taller than old people - - old people didn't get shorter, the new generation is simply taller than the last one.
Someone who is more liberal than his peers at 20 will generally be more liberal than his peers at 50.
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So your argument is that people stay the same
Jun 30, 2018, 3:37 AM
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but the left just gets more and more insane. As someone who used to be solidly left (hell probably far-left), changed his opinion on almost no issues and is now a Nazi, I can't really disagree.
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What about Gen Y...?***
Jun 30, 2018, 6:47 AM
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Re: What about Gen Y...?***
Jun 30, 2018, 8:00 AM
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That would be millineals
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Aren't we talking about Americans here?
Jul 2, 2018, 12:35 PM
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Not Brits?
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Don't worry, Tbalm,
Jun 28, 2018, 12:25 PM
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I'm sure in this new era, you'll still be able to wear short skirts, find guys to give beej's to, and maybe even anil.
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good - maybe the music will improve.
Jun 28, 2018, 12:48 PM
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that is, if we can hear it over the shrieking Chicken Littles in the streets.
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Our music is doomed.
Jun 28, 2018, 1:10 PM
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Its just keeps getting worse. Pretty soon, that will all be automated, too.
Even the "dj's" who make the "beep-boop-bop" computer noises and call it 'music' will be out of a gig.
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You are already living in the past
Jun 29, 2018, 9:14 AM
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Your photograph looks like the early 70's.
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Re: You are already living in the past
Jun 29, 2018, 11:06 PM
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my 8th grade yearbook photo
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Re: You are already living in the past
Jun 30, 2018, 6:56 AM
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12th grade
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Re: Now that we are ushering in a new era of 1950's
Jun 30, 2018, 9:39 AM
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more of a joke daddio
Jun 30, 2018, 10:19 AM
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