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Where are all those guys at, I haven't really read their negativity much so far. I'll admit that I said that if Brownell didn't make considerable progress with our team this year, I said that he should be replaced after this season, and I still feel that way!!! I still think that Brownell is a good basketball coach, but being a good basketball coach hasn't benefited at all with recruiting top talent to Clemson.Even with great coaches, it would take longer than 3 or 4 years to have them playing at 4-5 star status with a 2 and sometimes 3 star recruits. Brad needs to and hire a great recruiter even if he has to give up some of his own salary to keep them at Clemson. That would be better than going back to coaching at those small schools for 3 or 4 hundred thousand a year!!! As of now I think that he makes 1.55 mil a year, and to keep that to the end of his contract where he would be making 2. mil, some of what he makes now would be worth sharing with an assistant that car our recruit him!!! Brads last job was with Wright State Raiders, and the HC there is in his 9th year, and he is only making $500,000 a year. So I doubt that Brad was making that when he left for the Clemson job. Brad should maybe do some sharing to keep a great recruiter, Just saying!!!

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Dec 11, 2017, 5:07 PM [ in reply to Re: Clemson basketball ]

Wanted him fired 3 years ago and if I had to place a bet I'd bet against this team making the tourney.

Admittedly there's not much data to work with this year, as in the case in most years we play a most of our early games against creampuffs outside the conference and we will only face 3-4 potential tourney teams.

The Ohio State win was an decent win, especially on the road. They are in the 50's in the kenpom ratings and sit at 46 in RPI after a win over 37th ranked Michigan. So that's basically a win over a bubble team if they stay at 46 in the RPI. They were crushed by Gonzaga earlier in the year.

The loss to Temple is an interesting one. RPI has Temple at #11. Kenpom at #46 so depending on who you believe, that's would equate to a loss to a 4-5 seed team or a loss to another bubble type team.

So we sit at 1-1 against potential tourney caliber opposition (RPI Top 50). Next week will provide a bit more insight with games at Florida (Kenpom 21 and RPI 67) and S. Carolina (KP 56, RPI 49). I haven't seen Florida play so I don't know why the disparity is with their ranking, but I think it's fair to say we are playing two more bubble type teams and if Florida is as good as their ranking a tourney caliber team.

So if we go 0-2 it's definitely same old same old. Beat some scrubs early in the season. Win one or two good games, then go into conference play and finish somewhere around .500 in conference, but without enough quality wins to make the tourney. 1-1 Still doesn't say much about the team other than they are capable of holding their own against good teams, but not really winning big games.

But if we've really turned the corner we have the opportunity to go 2-0 and go into conference play with some momentum. The early ACC schedule is actually favorable with NCSU, at BC, Louisville, and at NCSU. Of those, only Louisville is currently ranked higher than us in KenPom (lower in RPI). If you could manage 3-1 in the conference to start, I would definitely see some reason for optimism. 2-2 or worse and it looks really tough to see a path to .500 with 5 of the next 6 against ranked opponents (Miami, ND, UNC twice, at Virginia, and at GT) Even the un-ranked game at GT would be tough for us as we don't typically win there.

Anyway if you get out of that gauntlet somehow at 3-3 or even 2-4 there's still hope as there are only 3 games against ranked opposition over the last 8 (FSU twice and Duke).

Right now it's really to early to say much about this year's team, however if you look at the history of our program under Brownell and how this usually plays out, it seems more than likely we win 16-19 games finish about .500 in the conference and miss the cut for the dance. Maybe I'm wrong this year but he's yet to prove me wrong in 3 seasons.

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I’ve heard that for the past three years

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Clemson b-ball is off to a good start.....

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