Re: So getting vaccinated isn't the end of it.

Nope is sadly the truth. In the city of Manaus Brazil, COVID kicked their collective Muschamps earlier in the pandemic. This city had an amazing 70% positive infection rate. The thought was with this high of a known rate of infection that they were in relatively good shape and were approaching herd immunity.

Fast forward, a new variant causes another large surge in Manaus.

Studies have shown that the South African variant is not neutralized nearly as effectively in the lab using plasma with antibodies from previously infected patients.

We are losing the race to vaccinate enough people to deplete the reservoir of new targets of the virus. This will allow the virus to mutate again and again which will make the current vaccine less and less effective.

All we can do is what we can do, which is to try to inhibit the spread and take the vaccine, but I honestly think we are in for the long haul.

I wish the fawning press would ask Biden and Fauci tougher questions. 100 days of mask wearing is likely to be just a start. It is highly probable that the current vaccine will prove far less effective than initially thought based on the rapid mutation rate.

If one reads the thoughts of scientists not on TV, they are quite worried about where we are going.

I personally was feeling better about 2-3 weeks ago, but as of late with more reading, I feel we are not going to crush this virus anytime soon. We are going to have to learn to live with it.

Biden, Fauci and others are doing their best to deal with this issue, but like Trump, I think they know things that they aren't telling the general public. I would rather they tell the honest truth up front, than find out our political and medical leaders have been less than candid about what they think or know.

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Jan 28, 2021, 9:48 AM

We all know China is full of crap. They claim it started in a wet market, they shut down everything. Then they shut down twitter, clamped down on the internet, and now they're all better, very few cases, blah blah.

HOWEVER, if you read between the lines, or lies, you see the Chinese were truthful about the virus, itself. This variant garbage is just that. There are thousands, and there will be thousands more. This will evolve to be like influenza. Anyway, the original outbreak in Wuhan was studied by the Chinese. And they actually have far more and better resources to study people than we do. Anyway, they estimated the r0 of the virus to be 5.7. That's VERY high. We were then told the r0 was 1.5 to 2.5. Well, now enter the variants, and the r0 is now around 5.0. Well, in WUHAN it was already estimated, in a study posted April 7th, at 5.7. And that was the "original" virus from a study done in Wuhan. They also said it would take around 82% infected (or vaccinated) for any kind of herd immunity. And what do you know, Fauci now estimates herd immunity (due to the new variants) will take between 80 and 90%. Again, this was all known very early on. Airborne transmission was also confirmed by the Chinese, very early on. Aerosol transmission as well. We only confirmed that in September of last year. And these variants, has anyone noticed they're only in allied countries? Or were discovered there? England? South Africa? Brazil? We were also told the virus was a slow variety to mutate, and as such it would take years to mutate around a vaccine, if at all. They're already looking to reformulate at least one vaccine.

In short, everything that has changed, or been found to be a lie, all that stuff has broken every single time to align with initial Chinese data. Take that FWIW. It's sad, but I initially believed the Chinese data, and over time it has proven correct far more than anyone on TV in the US.

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So getting vaccinated isn't the end of it.

Sounds like NO ONE wants to cross you!

God you are such a BADASS!***