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Orange Blooded [4001]
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Rankings - committee blew it
Dec 15, 2020, 7:59 PM
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Florida - how can you lose to a horrible LSU team and drop 1 spot? Iowa state - how can you lose to Louisiana by 19 and have 2 losses and be 6? Ohio state - 5 games.
This needs to start over and skip the theory that it is the 4 best. Need to go to conf champions auto bid and 1 at large. 6 total. Seedlings can be by committee and top 2 get first round bye.
Then you don’t have to worry about buckwhiners 5 games. It would also support good Out of conference games being played.
If Clemson loses by a fluke play by 1 - then at most they should be dropped like Florida - 1 spot.
Maddening
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Re: Rankings - committee blew it
Dec 15, 2020, 8:01 PM
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Pretty sure they are sucking on purpose so everyone will just expand the number of teams.
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Rankings = Beauty Contest. No way around it.
Dec 15, 2020, 8:22 PM
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CFP Committee is better than anything we've had, no doubt, but it is fatally flawed. The only reasonable, legitimate solution is an elimination playoff consisting of conference champions determined entirely on the field. Rankings, polls (or poles "> ), theories, opinions, biases, media coverage, TV money, etc., would have no bearing, as it should be.
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Re: Rankings - committee blew it
Dec 15, 2020, 8:25 PM
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With 6 teams every year bamer gets a bye in the 1st round. How many times do you think we will get a bye ?
Which years would the 5-8 teams have won it all, 5-8 may have won in the 1st round, but would have been exposed in the next. I think 4 is the best option, not perfect, but the best.
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good point. expanding make regular season games irrelevant***
Dec 15, 2020, 8:52 PM
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Re: good point. expanding make regular season games irrelevant***
Dec 15, 2020, 9:10 PM
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I tend to agree with how expanding the playoffs would de-value the sense of urgency of regular season games. A team like Bama or Florida or Oklahoma or O Cry O would get lots of leverage! The gauntlet argument would about and they would get a pass for 1 maybe 2 losses if they were deemed "quality losses"! Same argument is then turned around against a team who is not deemed to have faced a "gauntlet historically good schedule"! Because the ig-jits only look at the name of the schools sometimes and not how good the team is - some of the above mentioned gets un-due credit for having played a "gauntlet" minus Oklahoma! They just get a pass because they are Oklahoma!
Playing 12 games. Then a championship game. Then what - 3 more games? Then you will eventually and inevitably have the team who avoided injury the most win it all - and not necessarily the team who was the best win it all!
I feel about as good about the playoffs as have anything in college football. The old times where some of the "blue bloods" made their name in the sports who have championships that were voted on "just by their regular season success"! No bowl game even - are what they are! I recognize them and here is where most people turn their nose to my opinion - but I don't really value those championships! I know, who am I and forget what I think! I know. I understand all that - but voters who live in Pittsburgh didn't see many of the teams from the South back then. Bama has some because of Bear Bryant! Then Nick. And some other awesome coaches. But, it was mostly a Northern popularity "eye test" contest!
We don't want to go back to that garbage either! Make it to the top 4 over a 12 or 13 game schedule and you would have earned the right to compete for it. Don't and . . . . . .
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Re: Rankings - committee blew it
Dec 15, 2020, 8:31 PM
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Coastal has a better resume than 0310, change my mind.
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Florida and O Cry O St. Have "eyeballs"
Dec 15, 2020, 8:43 PM
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UF and OSU have eyeballs who want to park their fannies in front of a TV and watch them play. That is why they don't get penalized like say, "Clemson" with less eyeballs who will watch TV ads for hours to see their team play! Marketing wants those schools!
College football is fast becoming more "pro" in terms of selling out for the money! The whole power 5 concept for example. Do you think there will ever be a Group of 5 team who can ever legit make it to the playoffs? I don't. UCF was really that good; but didn't get a sniff a few years ago. And, sadly, no G5 team will! They do not carry enough ""buying power"" so Domino's, Wal Mart, Merril Lynch, Progressive, etc. can spend millions for the right to advertise during their broadcast!
P5 schools are all at least associated with enough big eyeball schools to be relevant. Wake Forrest for example probably doesn't have as many potential viewers as App St. But, Wake has been a power at times in basketball( the other revenue sport ). Wake is also a very good academic school which adds into another area of the same "who gets into the P5 equation"!
Money - is why they didn't drop and why they are in in short!
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Please post your own top 10 or 15***
Dec 15, 2020, 8:57 PM
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and meanwhile undefeated cinci drops lol***
Dec 15, 2020, 9:08 PM
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florida is based on resume ..bucknuts are based on
Dec 15, 2020, 9:10 PM
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eye test...vintage committee changing the criteria to fit the teams they like
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Re: florida is based on resume ..bucknuts are based on
Dec 15, 2020, 9:16 PM
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Rankings and polls have been laughable for a long time. SEC bias is extremely obvious. Need to go back to computers.
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Re: florida is based on resume ..bucknuts are based on
Dec 15, 2020, 9:38 PM
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Oh good grief!
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Re: florida is based on resume ..bucknuts are based on
Dec 15, 2020, 9:20 PM
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Florida lost to a sub .500 team at home. Lost to A & M.
I give them credit for beating: Georgia and Missouri
The rest of their schedule was: 2 win S. Carolina, 2 win Tennessee, 3 win Arkansas, 4 win Kentucky, zero win Vanderbilt, 4 win Ole Miss.
Bucknuts played 1 team with a winning record all season and guess what - only won by 7 "AT HOME" and "dropped their QB out of the race for Heisman"!
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Re: Rankings - committee blew it
Dec 15, 2020, 10:02 PM
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This committee is a joke. Florida, Ohio St, and Iowa St positions in the rankings is just wrong. They are obviously using different standards than they were when the playoff started. They seem to be looking for TV ratings (except for Iowa St). Florida should have dropped at least 3-4 places. Ohio St shouldn't even be in the rankings with only 5 games. Iowa St has 2 losses, and one of them is a horrible loss.
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Re: Rankings - committee blew it
Dec 15, 2020, 10:06 PM
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The purpose of the CFP is to determine the best team in college football ....... not the best 2 or the best 4, or the best 8. Therefore the only critical selection is making sure the best team is selected ..... or at least the best 2. It is nice to be able to identify the best 4, but stretching it to 8, or maybe even 6 is not necessary. It seems like out of 4 teams the best one will be included. The purpose is not to determine the hottest 2 or 3 loss team at the end of the season and include them ......... Unless you happen to be a 2 loss team. If we lose to ND I think that is indication enough that we are probably not one of the top 2 teams.
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Re: Rankings - committee blew it
Dec 15, 2020, 10:09 PM
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I agree 100% and have said this since the beginning...the flaw is trying to get the 4 BEST teams in...truth be told, this isn’t even good for college football because since it’s insecptuon, if we are honest...the 4 Best teams have been Bama, Clemson, Ohio state, and one other SEC team depending on the year...OU Amd ND Amd the PAC have always been worse than the 2nd best SEC team!!!
No sport in the world has the BEST teams make the playoffs/tourney...you generally earn your way in by winning your conference or division or region or league etc...do you get the BEST teams in always??? Nope, see NFC East this year...but you always get THE BEST team, which at the end of the day is all that matters!!!
There should be 6 Teams...each power 5 conf champ and the highest rated conference champ from the other set of schools...make ND join a conference...period...
This year would be assuming these winning their conf... Clemson/Bama/Ohio State/USC/OU/Coastal or Cincy!!!
This gives everyone who plays a chance...it keeps all conferences engaged every year which is good for tv Amd college football as a whole, it makes the regular season very important as you must make your conference championship game to have a chance, it makes the conference championship games a defacto first round game. It takes the human element out of it except for the Group of 5 representative...this is the clear answer for the betterment of college football as a whole...plus it gives the little guy a chance and that’s good for tv and the fans!!!
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