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Trump leaving the Kurds to be slaughtered simply to benefit
Oct 10, 2019, 11:49 AM
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himself should be a lesson for the Republican Party in the next election.
Hey Republicans - once he is done with Giuliani, Pence and Barr et. al., you're next.
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Hell he already tried throwing Pence under the bus***
Oct 10, 2019, 11:57 AM
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Oculus Spirit [93152]
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One major point about your statement and one question, sir.
Oct 10, 2019, 11:57 AM
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Trump was elected to 'get us (America) out of endless wars.'
You claim he is doing wrong. When was the last time a POTUS did something right in that neck of the woods?
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Whatever you come up with to claim X POTUS did something right weigh it against all the moves we've made in that part of the world that turned out to be completely dumb in the long run. Let's go back to the days when Iran was our 'friend,' and start there or maybe when we backed Afghanistan against Russia.
If you don't know the history of that part of the world you might want to read up to understand how much all of those people hate America and how quickly they change allies according to whether or not we are useful.
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Re: One major point about your statement and one question, sir.
Oct 10, 2019, 1:30 PM
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Don’t waste your breath on the misinformed. Half of them have been so dumbed down by the media they don’t even know Turkey is a NATO Treaty ally and thus afforded all the benefits of membership.
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Oculus Spirit [93152]
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I've been ignored when I post that for the second day now.
Oct 10, 2019, 1:43 PM
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I suppose, because I am not a mind reader like the dems claim to be, that the outline is to allow a NATO ally to control that part of Syria. God forbid that Trump might do something right, right?
If Iran or Russia get into open conflict with a NATO ally other NATO members will be expected to defend Turkey. Trump is not hesitant to point out NATO members obligations to defend each other.
It's just speculation but the following statement is not. The Kurds will think nothing about turning their backs on the US and taking money and support from anyone and everyone who will side with them. They are typical of the peoples of that part of the world.
Remember arming Saddam to fight against Iran who upset our puppet and tried to conquer the region? Handing the sects of muslims in that part of the world is like playing...
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Re: I've been ignored when I post that for the second day now.
Oct 10, 2019, 2:54 PM
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The media is so skilled at manipulating the public they actually have the leftists screaming about us no longer participating in an unnecessary war.
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Re: One major point about your statement and one question, sir.
Oct 10, 2019, 1:49 PM
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Ummm, might want to read the frigging charter. It does not say a thing about backing them on what amounts to an offensive attack. It is a Defense Pact guys.
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Re: One major point about your statement and one question, sir.
Oct 10, 2019, 3:19 PM
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Most amusing how everyone and their mother is suddenly so informed on the urgent moral crisis happening in Syria’s civil war. The neocons and the leftists strangely have found agreement on this one weird thing.
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One major question...
Oct 10, 2019, 3:23 PM
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If Trump was elected to get us out of "endless wars" and that's the talking point you cultists are believing about the Northern Syria withdraw, why isn't Trump removing all US troops out of Syria?
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Re: One major question...
Oct 10, 2019, 4:59 PM
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PLEASE do NOT confuse the mentally challenged on this subject. I have done all I can by calling/emailing my US Senator(R) and expressing my utter disgust on this subject. Also told him my ballot stategy would be to vote for anyone with a D next to their name if the Party is unable to muster up any testicular fortitude . Really does not matter at this point, this was a bridge too far and the last straw of a large bundle.
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Re: One major point about your statement and one question, sir.
Oct 10, 2019, 7:20 PM
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Getting us out of endless wars:
Afghanistan: 19 years and counting
Iraq: 18 years and counting
Syria: 1.5 years.
450,000 people (Kurds) live within 3 miles of the border with Turkey. the Kurds did all the heavy lifting as our allies in the fight against Isis. They lost 11,000 soldiers, we lost a few.
We remove 50 troops from the area with the full knowledge and consent that the Turks were going to try to massacre the Kurds.
There is no description for this kind of shame. We don't #### our allies...period.
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I don't agree with the move at all. But if a NATO ally is
Oct 10, 2019, 12:12 PM
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going to attack the Kurds as soon as the US leaves - then when could we leave actually?
I'm surprised we didn't shake our pointing finger at Turkey and say, "Don't you attack the Kurds when we leave. Don't make me have to separate you two!"
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Re: I don't agree with the move at all. But if a NATO ally is
Oct 10, 2019, 12:34 PM
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Trump kind of did say that. He said he would destroy Turkey's economy. Turkey didnt seem to care.
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Re: I don't agree with the move at all. But if a NATO ally is
Oct 10, 2019, 5:04 PM
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Trump says a lot of delusional carp. Like all the tough guy stuff he tweets upon leaving world meetings instead of saying it to their faces. SMH, weak and cowardly is what he actually is in real life.
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Trump knew of the intended slaughter and he green lighted it
Oct 10, 2019, 12:36 PM
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The Turks told him what they intended to do.
The real reason he is doing it:In June 2016, after Trump said he supported a ban on immigration by people from countries he said were associated with Islamic terrorism—he called them “terror countries”—Erdogan objected and threatened to remove Trump’s name from the buildings. That’s no small threat—according to personal financial disclosures filed by Trump, since he launched his bid for the presidency, he has earned somewhere between $3.2 million and $17 million in royalties from the deal. So, there's that.
I guess I'm not really surprised at how willingly the Republican Party goes along with whatever stupidity Trump spews or corruption he engages in, but at some point they are going to have to cut him loose or go down with the ship.
My money is on the latter.
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LOL...unattributed quotes from Mother Jones.....
Oct 10, 2019, 2:47 PM
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high five.
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"We’ve been talking to Turkey for three years. They’ve been
Oct 10, 2019, 3:10 PM
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wanting to do this for many years, as you know." “They didn’t help us in the Second World War. They didn’t help us with Normandy." Donald Trump said yesterday.
Good Lord.
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Re: Trump leaving the Kurds to be slaughtered simply to benefit
Oct 10, 2019, 12:41 PM
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himself should be a lesson for the Republican Party in the next election.
Hey Republicans - once he is done with Giuliani, Pence and Barr et. al., you're next.
It was the most intelligent move a President has made in almost 2 decades. Let our enemies destroy themselves. The Kurds won't get slaughtered. Many Turks will die, many Iranians will die, many Jihadist will die, many Russians will die, many Saudis will die. It's a win win for us.
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Oculus Spirit [93152]
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I don't know if it will be all that.
Oct 10, 2019, 1:44 PM
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I know no American will die. Imo, that's the fun part.
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It's so transparent what you are doing.
Oct 11, 2019, 4:03 PM
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Is all you really care about is tribal politics? Human suffering is a tool in the toolbox for you tribal political types. Bet you didn't scream at Clinton for leaving Somalis to starve when we pulled out of Mogadishu after Black Hawk Down. Did you scream at Obama for having us pull out of Iraq when they were incapable of standing on their own feet? Were you super ticked off at Hillary Clinton for not more aggressively supporting our special forces in Benghazi when it was obvious that situation was a deadly disaster?
Partisan politics is just as disgusting as Trump.
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