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Bait for Trumpers
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Bait for Trumpers


Feb 18, 2021, 7:49 AM

Although Clemson_Chris made a noble effort to define socialism, I think that could be a stretch goal with this crowd.

But here’s the bait for you Trumpers, please make a list of all the socialist policies Biden has implemented (and even proposed) since he’s been in office.

I know this will be the longest thread / list in the history of tigernet, settle down, be nice, everybody will have a turn.

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I can go ahead and summarize their list


Feb 18, 2021, 7:56 AM

"Anything that Trump doesn't like or I don't agree with or Tucker doesn't agree with is socialism!"

And when it's pointed out they embrace Trump's fascism, it's basically, "LOL Trump isn't a fascist... I don't really know what fascism is, but, um, yeah, Trump isn't one. Wait... BLM and Antifa are fascist cause violence! They're socialist AND fascist!"

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Re: I can go ahead and summarize their list


Feb 18, 2021, 9:45 AM

Yeah I don’t know many people clamoring that joe Biden is a socialist.

The Democratic Party is heading that way quick but I don’t know anyone saying he’s a straight up socialist. Can you print out some posts?

You on the other hand cry about trump being a fascist which is hilarious. You are on the other side of the spectrum. It’s not any better.

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Re: I can go ahead and summarize their list


Feb 18, 2021, 9:52 AM

I agree; I don't think Biden is a socialist. And are there some Dems who would embrace socialist ideology? I would argue yes; just not the majority of them. I think people like AOC are idealistic and naive in this sense.

Trump is a fascist, albeit an accidental one, based on his ideology, actions, and #### sure for how he handled losing the election.

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Re: I can go ahead and summarize their list


Feb 18, 2021, 10:56 AM

If you say trump has fascist tendencies then so does Hillary, Obama, and yes even sleepy joe.

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Re: I can go ahead and summarize their list


Feb 18, 2021, 11:12 AM

Heh, no. They didn't embrace the ideology and push to implement it in our government.

Hillary's evil, but not fascist evil. More of just a cut-and-dry sociopath.

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Re: I can go ahead and summarize their list


Feb 18, 2021, 11:14 AM

What exactly are you talking about?

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Please don't make me re-type it all over again.***


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Re: I can go ahead and summarize their list


Feb 19, 2021, 7:03 AM [ in reply to Re: I can go ahead and summarize their list ]

Just put yourself in the shoes of a recent graduate under a mountain of debt, or the guy working at Chipolte still living at home, and paycheck to paycheck.

You would want a whole bunch of socialism. SO unless concessions are made, that is where we are headed folks.

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It's odd, because straight up pub or straight up dem


Feb 18, 2021, 8:00 AM

both lead to bad outcomes. You can see that with the electricity situation in the most conservative and liberal states.

We NEED liberalism, and we NEED conservatism. What we don't need is only one or the other. Defense, infrastructure (ELECTRICITY/GAS/COMMUNICATION/HIGHWAYS etc.), we need federal leadership and control of those areas. Working, jobs, health care, food, education, those need to be local. So much more "stuff" used to be local than it is now. And yet some things that should be local are now nationalized, and things that should be nationalized are localized.

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Re: It's odd, because straight up pub or straight up dem


Feb 18, 2021, 8:03 AM

I'm falling in love with your posts more and more. This is nail on the head. Too many Americans think your only choice is Pub/Dem, and that the lines can't mix. And as you note, the states that sway too far in one direction hit disaster.

It's gotta be hybrid. It's gotta be cooperative.

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we're just ants in a jar, man


Feb 18, 2021, 8:20 AM

Pubs....Dems......just one big Uniparty shaking the jar to watch us ants fight each other.

But I'm a partisan hack



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Hey, I don't disagree...


Feb 18, 2021, 8:30 AM

But if you're still on that defending Trump train, you're falling for it.

The opinion you have that I'm partisan in favor of either party is laughable when you're here defending him.

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I'm defending him?


Feb 18, 2021, 8:54 AM

I said the latest socialist policy was implemented by Donnie Pump...

And I never accused you of being partisan. I think you find more enjoyment in placing labels on people instead of having actual conversations, much like the climate out there in corporate and social media outlets. You play into partisan politics by exuding a divisive rhetoric with nearly every post of yours I've read.

I can defend some of Donnie Pump's policies, and I can hate some of them. Same with Barry, same with Xiden, same with Dubya, same with Billy C. I can hate them as people and give credit where it's due for their strengths.

Stop playing party politics by taking the bait and turning us ants against one another. There's mother ####### shaking the proverbial jar, and dipshits like you are the first to attack the ant of the opposite color. And for what? What do you accomplish?

If you're as smart as you act like on here, you'd know that and try to find a central avenue to have sound discussions with fellow 'Muricans (maybe some Chyna trolls - kidding). Instead, you kick sand up in people's eyes (some deservingly, I get it) by leveraging the Party propaganda.

I ####### hate Republicans. I ####### hate Democrats. I ####### hate the Federal Goddamnfucking Reserve. I ####### hate the Establishment that runs this country. But moreso, I ####### hate the beta ####### cucks and SJW ####### that sit here on their "moral superiority" gaslighting people with the propaganda pushed out by these institutions.

And yes, before you whatabout me, it's prevelant on both sides and both sides are infuriating.

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There's a lot unpack here.


Feb 18, 2021, 9:09 AM

Here, I'll do it list style for readability:

1. My apologies if I mistook you for a Trumper. I seemed to recall in the past you were rushing to defend him, but I very well could have mistook you for someone else. For that, I'm sorry. Clearly you're showing here that you're not one.

2. You didn't accuse me of being partisan? Hold up. I remember a thread over the weekend where you said you laugh at me when I use that term, and in this very post you called me partisan. Saying a leverage "party propaganda". If you think I'm partisan for a party, you haven't read hardly any of my posts. You've made assumptions on a small sampling.

3. I don't support a party. Technically, I'm still registered as a Republican from when I was 18, but I've been too lazy to fix it. You say, "dipshits like me" are the first to attack an ant of the opposite color, but if you actually had read my posts (and the ones from long before you registered here but I can't fault you for that), you'll know that I have just as much disdain for the Democrats. I've despised Hillary Clinton since the first TV interview I saw her do when I was about 13 or 14.

4. I am very smart. I have plenty of sound discussions. You choose not to read them. You've only selected the ones were I've gone at it with the clown parade; NC_Tiger, Manac, Keowee, et al. I much prefer a good debate over dealing with the foaming at the mouth Trumpers here.

5. What Party propaganda? It appears you're just another person here assuming I'm a Democrat because I oppose Trump, and sorry, that's foolish mentality. That's falling for the ant in the jar scenario. You've been trained by those mother ####### shaking the jar to think that way.

I'll ask it like I've asked many times here, and not one poster--not one single one--has been able to answer it when challenged: What are my beliefs and ideology that show I'm a Democrat or a liberal. Failure to reply specifically here will be taken as an admission that you were wrong.

6. I ####### hate Republicans. I ####### hate Democrats. I ####### hate the Federal Goddamnfucking Reserve. I ####### hate the Establishment that runs this country. But moreso, I ####### hate the beta ####### cucks and SJW ####### that sit here on their "moral superiority" gaslighting people with the propaganda pushed out by these institutions.


Yeah, I hate those first things you mention, too. But keep in mind that anyone who uses the word "cuck" can't ever have their arguments taken seriously, so work on eliminating that word from your vocabulary. It's the word of a teenager. Now, if you're insinuating that I'm a SJW sitting here on moral superiority and gas lighting people, okay. You're entitled to that wrong opinion. If it appears that I'm flexing moral superiority over the people who are blind Trump loyalists, that's because people who are blind Trump loyalists and apologists lack integrity and a moral compass. Your comment is liking slamming an NBA player for thinking he's better at basketball than a 10-year-old.

7. I'm not sure what I would "whatabout" you on. You have clearly mistaken me for something I'm not. I suppose I was guilty of doing that to you as well, and again, my apologies.

So I apologize for mischaracterizing you, but you've gone way further overboard in doing that with me.

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10-4...we're good. sorry for temper tantrum


Feb 18, 2021, 11:17 AM

thanks for formatting. I went off the rails, my apologies. I poked the bear out of no where as well to take the discussion off topic for no reason, doing what I am accusing others of.

1 - Sounds like we're aligned. I do defend some of his policies, and some of the attacks are not warranted, IMO. I'd do the same for other people whose policies I agreed with, and vice versa. It's not a binary topic, yet for some reason everyone treats it as such and it needs to stop.

2 - In my opinion, partisan = Dem/Pub at all costs. I don't think of you as such. Like you, I'm certainly not. But I think you (and the vast majority of others) play into the partisan divisiveness (could be a symptom of today's climate) by trolling, labeling, or just generally stirring the pot. I don't have a tweeter or socials, and typically stay away from these discussions for this reason...you can't have a conversation these days without getting a label.

3 - See 2.

4 - I gathered that. And my temper tantrum was related to only seeing you curb stomp one side of the equation (sometimes, begrudgingly admitted, it's well done). I get fired up when I get labeled incorrectly.

5 - Party propaganda = Uniparty Propaganda, my apologies. If the corporate media entities and oligarchs are unanimously pushing the same narrative, something is amuck. If they're going right, I'm looking to see what's on the left and vice versa (that's a directional metaphor, not political). I don't think you're a Democrat b/c you oppose Trump. Conversely, I haven't seen you mention one positive about his tenure, which is fine if that's what you believe.

6 - I lived in ATL too long, my bad. Soft ### city mother ####### labeling me a white supremacist, uneducated redneck send me through the roof. Especially when I'm far more educated than 98% of them, worked my ### off to get where I am, and am far from whatever label they put on me b/c the media told them who I am. Call me a racist, Trumpist, insurrectionist, or a white privileged POS, and gloves come off. There's no consequences anymore b/c all these people just type something in their tweeter or buddy gram and don't have to worry about repercussions for attacking someone's character.

So yeah, another tangent but that chaps my ###.

7 - This is TigerNet P&R bro. Trying to taildrag a little bit and got fired up.

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Hey, no worries.


Feb 18, 2021, 1:10 PM

My train's slipped off the track plenty of times here. Cheers, and sorry for assumptions.

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Re: we're just ants in a jar, man


Feb 18, 2021, 1:04 PM [ in reply to we're just ants in a jar, man ]

Dem/Rep compromise might mean something if we still had a democracy, but we don't. We have an oligopoly. And the few are rich enough to own both parties.

Let George lay it out for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyvxt1svxso&t=88s&ab_channel=SkyEcho

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This is what I mean when I say our problems are structural


Feb 18, 2021, 9:13 AM [ in reply to Re: It's odd, because straight up pub or straight up dem ]

and not political. About 60% of what the federal government does, should be done by states. On the same token, the other 40% should be managed marvelously at the federal level with ample funding. Texas has a point there. BUT, the electric grid is NOT one of those things.

Most social programs should be state and local. That's the "mandatory" spending Congress harps on, the entitlements. Highways, communications, electric grid, those things should be controlled federally. National defense too. But the federal government now funds all they are supposed to fund and control (and underfund it), but also fund a LOT they are not supposed to fund or control (and onderfund those). Actually, they overfund it all, and that's the problem.

Take the homeless problem in Columbia, SC (or anywhere). It is a problem. It always was and will be a problem. Most homeless people are homeless because of a mental condition, and/or a drug addiction. That's just the facts. And there will always be people with mental conditions and addictions. Long before we had medicare, medicaid, social security, or food stamps, and subsidized housing, there was a large complex of buildings just down the street from where the homeless are walking the streets today. Back then there was no "homeless problem" like we have today. It was called the "lunatic asylum". Horrible name. BUT, it served a very noble and good purpose, and effectively. Those people (many if not most) now walking the streets destitute and/or on drugs, were once housed, clothed, fed, and cared for in that facility. Thousands. And while not optimal by any means, it's really no different than a modern prison today. Some homeless people commit crimes just to go to prison. At least there they have clothes, shelter, food, and medical care. But if you don't break a law, you're on your own. And in the past their addictions could be treated there, and if they had a mental condition, it could be treated there. And many people went there and left. Some didn't and couldn't. But it provided a service, locally (state) funded. The state no longer funds the facility. It can't. The tax structure now funds the federal government so much it leaves the states with not enough to handle what they SHOULD handle. Same token, it gives the federal government more money than they need to handle what they SHOULD handle. So they handle more than ever envisioned by our founders.

It's a mess. But it is what it is. Ideally taxes should be flipped. Most should go to states. States should do more, especially in the areas of social programs. Likewise, the federal government should do less, and do what they SHOULD BE DOING with ample funding and doing it well.

POLITICALLY, the states can do whatever than want with their taxes, and fund or not fund whatever they want, that's local in nature. But again things like highways, cable and fiber optic lines, the electric grid, those things are best controlled federally. Fund abortions nationwide, you tick off roughly 50% of people. Fund abortions in California and you please probably 80% of people. Don't fund abortions in SC, and again you please 80% of people. So your net national discontent is 20% versus 50%. When you put something in control of the federal government, it's an all or nothing proposition. And we are not all equal among our political, social, or religious beliefs. The more Washington funds and controls, the greater the national discontent level is.

So I'm not against Texas in principle. But they went too far having their own electric grid. Shouldn't happen. Maybe this means you fell out of love with me. Same token, California's electric problems were caused in large part due to state regulations (prescribed burning for example). Mitigated by playing nice and being part of a larger grid, as they should be.

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Re: This is what I mean when I say our problems are structural


Feb 18, 2021, 9:15 AM



Ain't much else to say.

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Has the Xiden administration


Feb 18, 2021, 8:12 AM

implemented any policies outside of his EOs? I don't believe any of the EOs were socialist policies, as the executive branch doesn't have the authority to cut checks or implement financial policies, from my limited knowledge of how our government works. The only thing they've done is acquit Donnie Pump, right?

If you're looking for a socialist policy, stand by. This Covid Stimmy package is just around the corner (at least I hope so, so my calls print tendies).

Donnie Pump's administration cutting checks directly to citizens was the most socialist ######## that's happened in my lifetime, on top of the corporate socialist policies where they just delivered funds to companies with wheelbarrows. But that's just good old fashioned 'Murican capitalism.

Janet and JPow fixing to turn this thing into over drive. QE (oh wait, "it's not QE this time") is the new standard.



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Re: Bait for Trumpers


Feb 18, 2021, 9:43 AM

Who said joe Biden is a socialist?

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It's been 3 weeks.......***


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I like your funny words magic man


Re: Bait for Trumpers


Feb 18, 2021, 11:00 AM

This is a trick question. He's been there < 1 month.

Over to you, though:

Make a list of all policies Biden has implemented that are open-market, free-market capitalist?

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Re: Bait for Trumpers


Feb 18, 2021, 10:16 PM

Sorry you found the question to be tricky.

But in the spirit of answering a question with a question, if you went to Cancun how long would you stay?

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