Replies: 25
| visibility 1
|
Walk-On [134]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 200
Joined: 1/20/19
|
Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 9:18 AM
|
|
And take his money,
Raise your hand if you have ever complained that the Texans are wasting Deshaun's prime, including since he signed the new contract?
Raise your hand if you agree that you have no right to complain anymore.
And that contract? He was faced with playing out his rookie contract and hoping he got to free agency healthy -- that he didn't have a Dak Prescott experience -- or signing a contract that set several generations of his family for life. He wasn't even in a position to be franchised by Houston.
|
|
|
|
110%er [7736]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 10224
Joined: 11/28/03
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 9:23 AM
|
|
Life is a series of decisions and he made his but now wants to have it both ways. Everyone knew (including DW4) that the Texans were/are a dysfunctional organization. Yet he chose to sign a contract so now he needs to live up to his end of the agreement.
|
|
|
|
|
Walk-On [134]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 200
Joined: 1/20/19
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 9:36 AM
|
|
I can't disagree. As an Eagles fan we are dealing with that with Wentz now, the difference being we all want to see the ### end of him as soon as possible.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4365]
TigerPulse: 80%
Posts: 8370
Joined: 1/4/17
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 9:44 AM
[ in reply to Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet ] |
|
My understanding is that DW4 was promised some input on righting the disabled franchise. And that promise was broken, several times. He is not powerless in this situation. The signing of his contract does not preclude him having opinions - and options.
BTW - DW4 has not been saying all that much. But because he is a top level QB,. he makes good copy - and everyone else in the NFL is talking about him way more than he is talking about himself.
When JJ Watt is supporting your position, I think it makes it hard to put the selfish label on DW4
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4141]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1629
Joined: 12/14/10
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 10:07 AM
|
|
For those who care it might be entertaining to hear all the talk about how bad it is to play for a team and make millions. For those who don't care, well let those who care talk. As for me if there is never another football game in the USA it will not make any difference in my life. Life goes on.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1304]
TigerPulse: 80%
Posts: 2397
Joined: 10/1/05
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 10:17 AM
|
|
I'd offer a few destinations for him. Only deals that benefit the franchise though. Problem is his representative seems to want total control of the deal. Doesn't work that way. He signed it, regardless of any verbal promises that were made. Either play, sit, or go where the send him. Seems that those are his only options??
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5072]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 5618
Joined: 8/17/03
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 11:19 AM
|
|
He has a no trade clause so he(meaning Watson) would have to approve any trade Houston would potentially make involving him.
|
|
|
|
|
Commissioner [953]
TigerPulse: 96%
Posts: 883
Joined: 10/19/11
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 10:08 AM
[ in reply to Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet ] |
|
This is the key: part of his contract negotiations included input on new coach/management. Not only was that ignored, the ####### owner hired a consultant to interview people, and then went and hired people on his own. Watson found out on twitter while on vacation. I'd be pissed, too.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7736]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 10224
Joined: 11/28/03
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 11:08 AM
[ in reply to Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet ] |
|
My understanding is that DW4 was promised some input on righting the disabled franchise. And that promise was broken, several times. He is not powerless in this situation. The signing of his contract does not preclude him having opinions - and options.
BTW - DW4 has not been saying all that much. But because he is a top level QB,. he makes good copy - and everyone else in the NFL is talking about him way more than he is talking about himself.
When JJ Watt is supporting your position, I think it makes it hard to put the selfish label on DW4
The contract does not limit his opinion but does limit his options. Not to mention it is a bad look if he does not fulfill his end of the contract. If he really needed input in terms of managing the franchise he should have written it into the contract. BTW who lets an employee choose their bosses?
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4745]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8641
Joined: 2/7/02
|
Well, the boss is clearly over his head, a liar, or just
Feb 8, 2021, 11:27 AM
|
|
plain stupid.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [7736]
TigerPulse: 90%
Posts: 10224
Joined: 11/28/03
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 11:08 AM
[ in reply to Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet ] |
|
My understanding is that DW4 was promised some input on righting the disabled franchise. And that promise was broken, several times. He is not powerless in this situation. The signing of his contract does not preclude him having opinions - and options.
BTW - DW4 has not been saying all that much. But because he is a top level QB,. he makes good copy - and everyone else in the NFL is talking about him way more than he is talking about himself.
When JJ Watt is supporting your position, I think it makes it hard to put the selfish label on DW4
The contract does not limit his opinion but does limit his options. Not to mention it is a bad look if he does not fulfill his end of the contract. If he really needed input in terms of managing the franchise he should have written it into the contract. BTW who lets an employee choose their bosses?
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [30597]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 34351
Joined: 6/22/03
|
Just my opinion.. but I would say
Feb 8, 2021, 1:03 PM
|
|
Lebron james makes every decision on every team he is on.. probably going all the way back to AAU ball.
Jordan also had his say on who made the team and didn't.
I can't think of any 1 in the nfl that has that kind of pull though.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [27296]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 31785
Joined: 8/19/03
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 1:17 PM
[ in reply to Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet ] |
|
Isn’t that why you have agents? Are they not the one who negotiates contracts? I’m asking because I don’t know the answer to that. I can’t believe the DW drew up his own agreement with the Texans.
|
|
|
|
|
Head Coach [790]
TigerPulse: 50%
Posts: 1512
Joined: 8/3/16
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 11:25 AM
[ in reply to Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet ] |
|
LOL. And if your employer becomes a s*** show heading toward bankruptcy what do you do? You have a contract right? So you stay and cross your fingers?
Oh wait....you'd probably leave that sinking ship.
The NFL contracts are horrendous. They ask these young men to sacrifice their bodies for life with little choice in how it happens. DW4 should do what's right for him and his future. Getting pummeled for $25m a year isn't worth a lifetime of crippling injuries, head fog and other unknown dangers.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [43549]
TigerPulse: 81%
Posts: 32745
Joined: 2/22/03
|
People should think about that before they decide on a career in football.
Feb 8, 2021, 6:50 PM
|
|
The decision pro players have made is that they are willing to risk injury for the opportunity to play professional football and make millions of dollars.
If that’s not worth the risk, don’t play. But once you’re there, spare me the sob story about possibly having lifelong injuries.
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [30597]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 34351
Joined: 6/22/03
|
I dunno. I make decisions based off facts and
Feb 8, 2021, 10:28 AM
|
|
I don't have any.
I don't know what was said between watson and the Texans.
For example. Say you were working a job in construction and wanted to leave because it was overwhelming. management promised you 4 more people to get you to stick it out.
Then the next week they tell you they changed their minds.. you get 1 person and deal with it cause you resigned the contract.
Then you mentioned it to some of your peers in construction circle.. then the next day everybody with a shovel is on construction.net calling you a crybaby.
|
|
|
|
|
All-Pro [672]
TigerPulse: 91%
Posts: 632
Joined: 2/3/20
|
Re: I dunno. I make decisions based off facts and
Feb 8, 2021, 8:44 PM
|
|
I think you should just dig your hole and shut your mouth. Construction workers are such babies, we pay the literally tens of dollars. Should just do their job and go home.
|
|
|
|
|
Commissioner [936]
TigerPulse: 76%
Posts: 832
Joined: 7/30/01
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 1:24 PM
|
|
The fool shouldn't have signed the contract. It's a case of wanting to have your cake and eating it too. Stupid is as stupid does!
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [6355]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3675
Joined: 6/3/18
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 1:55 PM
|
|
If anyjuan could identify stupid, it would be you Coot.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Medallion [64443]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 88921
Joined: 3/27/01
|
Initially I though it was largely BOB who was...
Feb 8, 2021, 2:07 PM
|
|
wasting DW's prime and while that was true, pi$$ poor coaching and bone-headed decisions now appear to be a cultural issue among the senior level management within the Texans organization.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5344]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4889
Joined: 10/21/15
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 3:54 PM
|
|
He was faced with playing out his rookie contract and hoping he got to free agency healthy -- that he didn't have a Dak Prescott experience -- or signing a contract that set several generations of his family for life. He wasn't even in a position to be franchised by Houston.
Yes, he was in a position to be franchised. This is his 4th year. 2021 would be year 5, the final year of his rookie contract. 2022 he would have been franchised. 2023 he would have been franchised again.
Whether he signed the big contract or not, he would have been stuck in Houston until at least the 2024 season.
By signing, as you said, he secured a long-term deal that protects him better in case of injury. If he had not signed, he would essentially be one 1-year contracts for the next 3 seasons.
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10324]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 12777
Joined: 11/22/03
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 6:32 PM
|
|
He signed the contract. Now shut up and do your job that you agreed to do. Got woke now he's a joke. If you want to have a say in personnel decisions retire and become a general manager. Nobody forced him to sign the contract.
|
|
|
|
|
Legend [17326]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 14041
Joined: 10/24/10
|
My take is DW4 is executing his exit strategy
Feb 8, 2021, 7:39 PM
|
|
Like it or dislike it, he is making his moves to leave the dysfunctional owners and management team. Accepting the contract and insisting upon a "right to refuse" for franchises not of his liking were smart steps in that direction.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5809]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8539
Joined: 5/28/10
|
I’m honestly ashamed of a lot of you
Feb 8, 2021, 8:02 PM
|
|
Y’all loved DW4 when he was here, playing for free, and winning championships. Bottom line, and I’m probably gonna get downvoted for this but I don’t care. Clemson was irrelevant before deshaun. Sorry not sorry. He brought us back to national relevance and y’all seem to forget that. Now he is in the league and y’all turn your back on him. What happened to “once a tiger always a tiger?” You bunch of hypocrites. And it’s not just DW4, a lot of y’all have turned your backs on several former tigers when they do or say something they don’t like. Get over yourselves.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4986]
TigerPulse: 84%
Posts: 3818
Joined: 12/29/16
|
Re: Everyone who thinks Deshaun should just be quiet
Feb 8, 2021, 8:07 PM
|
|
DW is a prime example why after Clemson, I could care less what they do with their lives. Their usefulness to me is complete,
He agreed to get paid ridiculous amount of money to perform his act for the owner of the team. Either do your job, or give the money back and go use your free Clemson education to get a job like everyone else.
Life’s to busy to pay too much attention to a unhappy 1%er
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [5809]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 8539
Joined: 5/28/10
|
Do me a favor
Feb 8, 2021, 8:13 PM
|
|
And go pull for another team. I hear the coots are taking applications
|
|
|
|
Replies: 25
| visibility 1
|
|
|