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Are you a Wal-Mart capitalist...or Chic-Fil-A capitalist?
Oct 8, 2019, 5:18 PM
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I myself am a self-described "Chic-Fil-A capitalist."
Here's where liberals make my teeth ache, by the way. Chic-Fil-A, if you look close, is a shining example of capitalism that can illustrate the way the system can and is supposed to work. In some ways they're a shining example of everything that's right with America...and the only thing the arch-liberals can see is that Chic-Fil-A espouses traditional family values and therefore is against the LGBT community. Uh...okay.
Consider the model for a sec:
1) It's a max of 1 store - or at most 2 - per owner; you can't buy 1400 of the things like you could with most other franchises. They're creating 1,000 millionaires instead of 1 billionaire, basically.
2) The way you get a store is to work in one and be sponsored up, so it's a meritocracy. You wanna be an owner, work hard and be good, and you could get your own store.
3) They pay their employees great wages and treat them well, so they always have the best service and by far the most consistent food...and if they ever mess up (they don't, often), they fix it instantly and throw free stuff at you to make up for the trouble.
4) They're closed Sundays because of their belief people shouldn't work on the Lord's day...agree or don't, but they have values that go beyond just making money.
And we're criticizing this?
Like I said, liberals make my teeth ache, sometimes. Forest through the trees, guys. How is there any system anywhere that can compete with this, or is any fairer? They have all the advantages of a big company - consistent brand recognition, consistent product, consistent standards - but also all the advantages of a small one - namely, local owners and a well-paid, professional work force. And that's why Chic-Fil-A's usually have lines wrapped around the building at breakfast and lunch.
Contrast that with the Wal-Mart/big corporation model. The difference is glaring. Wal-Marts pay their people like crap - almost 65% of them are on government assistance of some kind - and those thousands of stores are all owned by the Waltons, and increasingly they source their product from overseas and buy in such bulk that no one can possibly match their prices or profit margin. The cheap goods are the hook...the actual cost to the community is far greater, because once one gets into your community all the local small businesses vanish, and with them go the small business owners. The jobs created are terrible jobs and and much of the community's wealth has just been redistributed...to the Walton Family.
But what if each Wal-Mart store had to have an individual owner? There were 11,718 Wal-Marts worldwide in 2018...each Wal-Mart owner would of course be multi-millionaires, but there'd be 11,718 of those as opposed to Rob, Jim, and Alice Walton...who are worth $175.2 billion dollars, collectively...up from just $136.1 billion in 2015. The last few years - meaning, the Trump Administration - has been really good for the Waltons.
What if those Wal-Marts were taxed for the difference their employees received in government assistance because they weren't paying their people enough to freakin' live on? All of a sudden the Wal-Mart employees lives' become worth living again.
When your family is worth $175.2 billion dollars, folks, you're not practicing capitalism anymore...and you're certainly not interested in Democracy. You're crushing the world in your fist, and you've got more money than probably 150 of the 209 nations on Planet Earth...and you answer to absolutely no one.
I thought we were done with kings and Pharoahs. Because, you know...democracy.
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Re: Are you a Wal-Mart capitalist...or Chic-Fil-A capitalist?
Oct 8, 2019, 5:31 PM
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You have confused both sides of the extremes with this one .
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All-TigerNet [11130]
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In 1990, there were roughly 40 billionaires in the US...
Oct 8, 2019, 5:43 PM
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today we're around 600, and that is not counting the foreign ones living here, doing business, and sucking up giant gobs of our economy. How many of those are real capitalists? What does this tell you about who is running the country?
Chic-Fil-A all the way.
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Lot o points [155580]
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TL;DR, but willing to bet that it's
Oct 8, 2019, 5:47 PM
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a long explanation of how you are a lifelong Republican followed by multiple paragraphs of you espousing liberal tenets?
I will endeavor to read later though.
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Re: TL;DR, but willing to bet that it's
Oct 8, 2019, 6:19 PM
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a long explanation of how you are a lifelong Republican followed by multiple paragraphs of you espousing liberal tenets?
I will endeavor to read later though.
You call me "liberal"...and I am, socially. Some. But what I actually am is a free-market capitalist who believes in a system that creates a multitude of millionaires as opposed to a handful of billionaires.
Mega-corporations simply do not exist in the same air as free markets, or democracies. They ### up the free flow of commerce by virtue of size alone and their ability to throw around cash similarly means they can buy and control politicians outright - especially since Citizens United essentially made bribing the foghorns direct legal.
The fascinating part is how that makes me a bit of a radical these days. But if you think I'd fit in at Berkeley you've had way too much of what the hippies are smoking.
I'd love to be rich myself, by the way.
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Well,
Oct 8, 2019, 5:50 PM
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one issue with loading Walmart on with more taxes is the increase in prices of cheap chinese chit. A few weeks back Tigerbalm scolded me for not caring if a 4K TV increased so that poor folks couldn't own one.
I know what my income is and I don't qualify for government assistance other than what my age qualifies me for. I know for a fact that the average walmart worker makes more money in a month that my SS check. There's something besides income going on in the lives of Walmart workers if they are on food stamps.
I didn't like picking the one thing that I didn't like out your post and contradicting it. The CFL section was great.
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Re: Well,
Oct 8, 2019, 6:31 PM
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Well, since the average Walmart person does not get 40 per week and closer to a bit less than 30 I question just how much you actually know about much of anything. Here I'll do the maffs for you- Say they average(most do in fact) 29.5 hours per week at $11.50 . That comes to $339.25 per week. Now multiply that by 4 = $1357 per month before SS/Medicare,State and Federal. Now average rent here in SC for a 2 bedroom apartment runs close to $700-$900 a month. Even you can maybe see there is not a lot of fat in that budget right?
Oh, get a second job right? Well, given how they schedule that makes it rather difficult to do given one does not know when they may get sent home or called in . SMH.
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Re: Well,
Oct 8, 2019, 7:03 PM
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Yes the maffs above only account for 48 weeks per year, so add in a whopping extra $113 per month before taxes.Woohoo, maybe one can juggle credit cards to put gas in the vehicle or choose to eat on it.
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Oculus Spirit [78823]
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so are you saying that we have a change against FSU?***
Oct 8, 2019, 6:04 PM
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Re: Are you a Wal-Mart capitalist...or Chic-Fil-A capitalist?
Oct 8, 2019, 6:26 PM
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I am more of a Panera bread capitalist. I see nothing christian about serving unhealthy food and contributing to the diabetes epidemic in the name of profits. That is Chic Fila in a nutshell.
Personally, I support local mom and pop businesses, unless I am buying paper towels in bulk or ordering consumer electronics from amazon.
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Lot o points [155580]
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Panera Bread because if you are going to be serving
Oct 8, 2019, 6:32 PM
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unhealthy crap you want to be secular about it, or because you think Panera actually serves healthy food?
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Re: Panera Bread because if you are going to be serving
Oct 8, 2019, 6:35 PM
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Well , if one does take out those pesky processed meats it could be considered healthy by today's standards I guess. Oh, the sodium in the soups too I suppose. Hmm, maybe not so healthy unless you just eat the napkins for fiber.
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Re: Are you a Wal-Mart capitalist...or Chic-Fil-A capitalist?
Oct 8, 2019, 7:00 PM
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One big difference in the Chic-fil-A model is that one really does not "own" a franchise at all. That is why the initial costs are roughly $50k versus $1.5M for some of the others. Technically they call you an owner/operator and as such earn right at $200k per year per store. Nothing to sneeze at for sure. You actualy get a % of profits per store, the rest is sent back to home office.
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I am a Socialist....
Oct 8, 2019, 9:28 PM
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in golf.
Really like Scrambles where I get to take my next shot from where the best shot ends up.
This format enables me to relax, drink a lot of beer and score well.
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