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Head Coach [787]
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Pitchfork Ben
Jan 15, 2015, 9:48 AM
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Pitchfork Ben Tillman was a hero to some, a racist scoundrel to others but either way he’s long since gone.
I don’t propose to yet again change the name of that building, but instead leave it as is: a fossil to remind us that even though he accomplished many things, in the end he was filled with hatred.
Shakespeare said that “The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones”.
For ol’ Pitchfork Ben, it seems to be the other way around.
Remember, every time a minority student or professor walks across the Clemson campus, Ben Tillman’s spirit rolls in his grave.
Every member of the Clemson family should strive to end racial discrimination.
We are better for We Are Clemson!
Go Tigers!!
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Oculus Spirit [93639]
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Ben was a typical politician.
Jan 15, 2015, 9:51 AM
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They all love money and power and hate only being poor and helpless. HTH
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Re: It appears that you are one who does not want it to end
Jan 15, 2015, 10:31 AM
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or you would can it.
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All-In [27371]
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Re: It appears that you are one who does not want it to end
Jan 15, 2015, 10:45 AM
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Did Shakespeare write Marc Anthony's death speech at Caesears funeral?
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Head Coach [787]
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Re: It appears that you are one who does not want it to end
Jan 15, 2015, 11:39 AM
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Oh, good ol boys, it has ended. Just look at the athelets you cheer for!
Don't you know Ben is sooo proud!
Go Tigers!!
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110%er [6474]
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Re: It appears that you are one who does not want it to end
Jan 15, 2015, 10:24 PM
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That actually proves nothing. Slave owners quite often had competitions in strength etc. between the slaves that they each owned. The slave owners each cheered for their own slaves. To assume that one is not racist simply because they cheer for black athletes would be a faulty leap in logic.
Just Sayin.
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All-TigerNet [14459]
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Re: Pitchfork Ben
Jan 15, 2015, 11:42 AM
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please foe gods sake tell us what ben tillman has to do with racism. also let us know who you voted for. i have a guess.
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Head Coach [787]
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IF you don't know
Jan 15, 2015, 11:51 AM
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the history of Pitchfork Ben, look it up, you seem to have computer access.
And I voted for Mitt Romney, guess that shocks a great many racists on this site.
Why don't we give all our recruits a party and let the good ol boys give them their view of history and race relations, I'm sure that'd bring in Fields and some others.
Wonder if they ever visit this site?
And oh yeah, I've been called a cracker too.
Go Tigers!!
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Another
Jan 15, 2015, 2:59 PM
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'Clause" I don't believe in!
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Head Coach [787]
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Oh
Jan 15, 2015, 6:07 PM
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by no means let facts get in the way of pure racism!
Think of that next time you're cheering on our minority athletes.
Go Tigers!!
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110%er [6474]
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Re: Pitchfork Ben
Jan 15, 2015, 7:25 PM
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Exactly, History remembered will not be repeated.
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Really? We remembered We Remembered The Korean War
Jan 16, 2015, 5:06 AM
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and still got involved in the Vietnam and Irag and Libya and Afghanistan civil wars
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110%er [6474]
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Re: Really? We remembered We Remembered The Korean War
Jan 16, 2015, 4:44 PM
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We really did not remember our history. A generation removed.
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All-TigerNet [12270]
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yep just like all of us he wasn't perfect, so if they want
Jan 15, 2015, 10:05 PM
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to take his name off that building because of it then they should take the name off every building, bridge, road, etc named after some historical person.
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So would you feel the same if the Name were Hitler Hall?
Jan 16, 2015, 4:12 AM
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or would you want to change the name?
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