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Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...
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Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 11:44 AM

Is there a point when you just say I can’t do this anymore and give it up?

It is going to come to this. All across the country.

If UGA does it, I am done.

Just curious if there is a point when you guys close the chapter?

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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 11:47 AM

I'm approaching it. It isnt so much just the statements as the policing of them and the fact certain stuff will be deemed acceptable and certain others will not. And then there will be the negative spin about everyone of them.

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It stes up for a civil war within teams, no doubt.


Aug 3, 2020, 11:59 AM

I know that where I work there are both Dems and Pubs, Libs and Conservs. But none of us right now can wear political patches in the work place because the leadership knows it would disrupt the work environment.

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Very good point..


Aug 3, 2020, 12:02 PM

This is going to really cause issues within teams

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Re: Very good point..


Aug 3, 2020, 12:31 PM

yeah, it could cause some teams to quit at the start of the 4th...

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Lol there are a lot of folks like you lately


Aug 3, 2020, 11:56 AM

Putting a patch on a jersey is the NCAA telling these athletes that they are allowed to have a voice. Probably a bit too much of "sit down, shut up and play football like a good boy for the money-paying fans" going around. It's good to let them have more individualism since they're all just cogs in a billion dollar machine.

But guess what? If a Clemson player puts a patch on, and I pay for a ticket and attend the game, does that mean I fully support whatever patch they're wearing? Lol of course not! What kind of idiot would make that kind of an association? It's just them expressing themselves; maybe I agree, maybe I don't, but either way I'm gonna enjoy the football game. Because it's still football.

Y'all act like putting a patch on a uniform is tantamount to replacing the pigskin with a cube made of aluminum or something. THAT would change the game. This other stuff will not. It didn't change the NFL, it won't change college football. If you think it has, you haven't been watching the #### games. The only thing we should be worried about is COVID-19, because if McMaster says no football, then there's no football.

Also, why is Georgia scared to play Georgia Tech? South Carolina was the only SEC team to vote in favor of keeping out of conference games.

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Pretty dress you are wearing!


Aug 3, 2020, 12:00 PM

??

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Re: Pretty dress you are wearing!


Aug 3, 2020, 1:29 PM

Cute emoji! But only one of us is "threatening" to stop watching America's most popular sport. Only one of us has their panties so in a bunch they're gonna give up and run away because of words they don't have to agree with. Are the violent impacts too manly for you? Stomach too weak to watch the next noodle-armed Georgia QB get sacked?

Since you apparently can't handle it, might I recommend ice skating or synchronized swimming?

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His band uniform ??? What are you, 12 ??? At least he’s


Aug 4, 2020, 7:38 AM [ in reply to Pretty dress you are wearing! ]

honest enough to put ALL his info out there ....... gives him ALL the credibility and makes you look like the 1980 national champion ....... congrats.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Re: Lol there are a lot of folks like you lately


Aug 3, 2020, 12:05 PM [ in reply to Lol there are a lot of folks like you lately ]

Ya, but what happens when it not football anymore? It is to volant and someone could get hurt. Look for that in the near future.

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People have been saying that since they changed kickoffs.


Aug 3, 2020, 1:35 PM

The sport is definitely still football. We'll cross that bridge when we get to it, yeah? Been waiting quite a while.

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I have a feeling your opinion would suddenly change if


Aug 3, 2020, 12:07 PM [ in reply to Lol there are a lot of folks like you lately ]

the majority of the players came out with patches that said "Support your NRA". or "MAGA" or "All Lives Matter" or "End Abortion NOW".

The who cares attitude is easy for somebody who has their opinions propped up.

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Why is it that athletes and actors are allowed to play


Aug 3, 2020, 12:10 PM [ in reply to Lol there are a lot of folks like you lately ]

experts on a variety of topics outside their purview? Why are their opinions about politics and other issues important? Why do their views on causes and issues matter?

In just about every other occupation, sharing personal beliefs is taboo. But when it comes to athletes and entertainers, we are supposed to care what they think (and even agree with it). If we don't care what they have to say, we are "silencing them" or somehow disrespecting them.

And God forbid that we are white males and disagree with a female and/or a minority. Then it's toxic masculinity or racism.

This is all so insane.

For many of us, sports are an escape from politics, negativity, etc. We want to watch gifted athletes play their sport. Period.

If players are allowed to say what they want about politics and use their uniforms and social media accounts to promote their own political agendas, then it is no longer just about football.

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People not in politics voice their opinion on politics all the time


Aug 3, 2020, 12:21 PM

No matter how misinformed they are. Check out a Facebook page at any given moment, it’s people from all professions, income status, region etc, all giving their political opinions.

And sports are hardly the only platform that inject politics into things. WCCP runs adds that inject conservative politics into their product promotion all the time. Low country male for example. “Make men and America great again”. They even had an add where an extermination company compare insects to illegal immigrants.

I’m just saying it’s around more than people realize but when it comes to sports, that seems to be the only place where people say that the participants shouldn’t be allowed to express it.

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I don't know what you do for a living


Aug 3, 2020, 12:40 PM

but I'm guessing that you don't interject your personal views on politics and other hot button issues into your job. If you do, you probably offend people on a regular basis, whether you realize it or not.

If you are that way, and someone doesn't like that about you, at least they can choose not to do business with you.

Regarding an annoying acquaintance on social media sharing political stuff, I can unfollow them. I don't have to read it. Okay, fine. At least that person's opinion isn't broadcast all over the internet, and their opinion isn't considered important.

But if I'm watching football, I still have to watch a player kneel during a national anthem, wear a patch on their jersey, and other offensive things. I can't just ignore it, because it's in my face. And I'm told that I have to like their opinion, because if I don't I am disrespecting them, the color of their skin, etc.

Now we are in a situation where a lot of people are going to strongly consider not "doing business" with these athletes in the form continuing to support the team. My concern is that many of these athletes feel so entitled, and are told so frequently how important they are, that they haven't even considered the fact that the people who make their sport and platform possible will spend their money and time elsewhere.

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Re: Why is it that athletes and actors are allowed to play


Aug 3, 2020, 1:25 PM [ in reply to Why is it that athletes and actors are allowed to play ]

never met an architect huh...

I swear they profess being experts in everything BUT building buildings. Give me the master builder/construction science kids any day!

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Re: Lol there are a lot of folks like you lately


Aug 3, 2020, 12:10 PM [ in reply to Lol there are a lot of folks like you lately ]

McMaster says no football? Are you serious Clark? No one believes McMaster will say no football.

As for patches on Jerseys, it will serve as an opportunity to identify the marxist and let you see what your Iptay money is supporting

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Aug 3, 2020, 12:47 PM [ in reply to Lol there are a lot of folks like you lately ]

Tiger Band I hope you know you just went above most posters heads. Many on this net have no ability to get out of there box and accept that there are other ways to think. My god many believe TL is evil now and loosing fans because he has a brain and an opinion. Kneeling during the anthem or protesting injustice is cause for execution. The number of times that posts rant about any thing that does not meet their 20th century view of the world is scary. It is always the fault of the evil media, libs, China, socialist, BLM, Yankees, activist, NCAA, WHO, experts and the wimps that care enough to protect others during this virus, etc. Instead of telling our young people to shut up and toe the line why not engage them. They are our future! If you listen you might ( no, will) learn a little some thing about a country of us not me. They will falter but they will give us a new view on what many want to hide from. I feel like most, my beloved CF is changing. Change is difficult but it is a healthy process except for those that believe the world is absolutely as they see it.

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Aug 3, 2020, 1:34 PM [ in reply to Lol there are a lot of folks like you lately ]

So, are you gonna cheer for a players that wear a patch supporting BLM...”Pigs in a blanket, fry’em like bacon? Marxist policies...tear down the nuclear family...

If any player supports BLM the cops and Hwy Patrol officers should all get the blue flu on game day. Then let’s see how the players like protesting.

These players work hard. These players are getting an education that costs at least $50,000 per year. Their training in life skills is better than the average student and worth at least another $20,000. Some will go on to the NFL and make millions. The majority will have a Clemson degree and tons of training and great contacts. They are missing the big picture by placing all of that in jeopardy. Protesting is fine but not while you are representing our great University.

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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 12:22 PM

Might as well leave now buddy cause it's gonna happen. Those Jawga players won't miss you!

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Sadly, I agree...


Aug 3, 2020, 12:30 PM

UGA is THUGA and has been for decades.

I know exactly what UGA is comprised of

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Maybe the “Statements” on jerseys could work!


Aug 3, 2020, 12:26 PM

I could envision a “Gamecocks Suck” or even a “GA Bulldogs Suck” on the back of a Tiger jersey or two!????

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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 12:30 PM

Wow, players have been putting messages in the game for a while. Some folks just get riled up if the message isn't their message...



I could care less about any message our player chose to wear except this one:


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You do know that the NCAA banned messages on eye black


Aug 4, 2020, 9:48 AM

because Tim Tebow was doing that, right?

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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 12:31 PM

Serious question here. Why no uproar from people on here when a player paints religious symbols on their face, or mentions God in a speech? Aren't the players there to simply play a game and not give their religion opinions? Aren't there other religions out there which could divide people? What if someone wanted to watch sports and not think about religion? I have zero issue with a player or coach doing any of this btw so don't take this post as me being upset by anyone doing any of those things. I'm just not getting the difference.

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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 1:21 PM

There is no difference. A lot of people are just wildly offended and over dramatic now a days about anything that doesn’t immediately fit their generally narrow world view.

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Aug 3, 2020, 1:33 PM

Narrow world view? Well please enlighten us with your broad world views.

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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 7:37 PM

Never said I wasn't guilty of it as well. We all are to various degrees. Humans tend to get really focused on the issues that matter to us to the point that we don't hear or recognize when we are being hypocritical or closed minded. We also tend to gravitate towards those that agree with us and consciously or not, ostracize those that don’t. We’ve been doing so for as long as recorded history; it is just more obvious now that we can all see/respond to anyone’s thoughts/takes instantly.

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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 1:29 PM [ in reply to Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could... ]

Speaking about God or religion is not happening during a game. Painting on your arm or face is nothing like having a message a part of a uniform that is clearly visible.

The NBA is fcking stupid to allow it. It goes against all the leftist liberal BS about diversity...how can anyone on one of those teams say they do not support the BLM Foundation because they are an arm of the democratic party? Zero of them can say that...if they did, the ones preaching love and acceptance and diversity would cancel the bro out.

I'm already not giving to IPTAY for the foreseeable future. If patches come, I am gone.

This is good for all of us in the end, because family oriented activities are better for everyone than burning 4 hrs watching a meaningless game.

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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 1:32 PM

A message on the uniform? Done. How about the ENTIRE uniform being a message. Also done.



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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 1:34 PM [ in reply to Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could... ]

How happening during the game? Done.



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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 1:36 PM [ in reply to Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could... ]

Recognizing a group of people and their contributions, sacrifices, and continued stuggle via a uniform? Done.



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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 4, 2020, 8:06 AM

Well done, sir, well done.

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Re: Curious - If Clemson players put “Statements” on jerseys as the NCAA said they could...


Aug 3, 2020, 7:56 PM

I dont know that the social messages would bother me. My line in the sand is going to be when i donate to IPTAY and they send it to other social causes based on what the players want. If i donate to iptay i want that money to stay in iptay. Otherwise i would just donate to the social cause.

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If the head coach allows it and the team decides to


Aug 4, 2020, 7:51 AM

wear a patch, they can wear whatever they like and it won't bother me a bit.

If they then demand that the coaches divy up their paychecks to the players, I'm out, just like I was when the professional teams went on strike.

They are doing fine without my money and Clemson would too.

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