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Is it too early to compare Bates D Line
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Is it too early to compare Bates D Line


Jan 5, 2021, 2:26 PM

Production with Hobbs D Lines?

Fields had all day to throw those bombs

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Re: Is it too early to compare Bates D Line


Jan 5, 2021, 2:41 PM

Before I give my opinion can someone confirm who coaches the DE and DT. Hall and Bates?

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Re: Is it too early to compare Bates D Line


Jan 5, 2021, 2:48 PM

Not to be confused with Hall and Oates...

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Re: Is it too early to compare Bates D Line


Jan 5, 2021, 2:44 PM

They need to wear tear away jerseys!

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Re: Is it too early to compare Bates D Line


Jan 5, 2021, 2:48 PM

Agreed, but isn’t one of the techniques taught to draw attention to the penalty with exaggerated arms and hands? Our guys don’t seem to do that. Refs may ignore but at least it sends a message.

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4-5th yr. SRs vs. mostly Soph/FRs.... What do you think?***


Jan 5, 2021, 2:51 PM



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Re: 4-5th yr. SRs vs. mostly Soph/FRs.... What do you think?***


Jan 5, 2021, 3:48 PM

Agreed but I am with clemchem...early results are not great.

Dan Brooks and Marion Hobby really produced superior O-line and their technique was particularly textbook. ESPN did a "Sport Science" segment on Vic Beasley in 2015 and his technique jumps off the film at you...which is exactly why he was the feature of their segment.

Our DT play has remained fairly solid so I dunno if Bates should deserve castigation but we definitely aren't seeing that right now with Lemanski Hall and his group of ends. And it does get a little worrisome when you see Logan Rudolph quit football altogether (and I did hear it was in frustration, to add fuel to this fire) and we've yet to see XT, Henry, or Mascoll live up to their billings as recruits either.

I'm not saying "fire Lemanski Hall" or any such but I'm definitely not crazy about what we're seeing so far either. Coaches as good as Marion Hobby clearly don't just fall out of trees but I dunno if we've replaced him successfully.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19sN7KA0hgk

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Re: 4-5th yr. SRs vs. mostly Soph/FRs.... What do you think?***


Jan 5, 2021, 3:49 PM

Sorry, meant "D-line", not "O-line".

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Re: One thing I've noticed all year is the hands.......they


Jan 5, 2021, 3:38 PM

still haven't learned to use their hands to get off blocks as well as we've seen in years past.

Is it a technique issue? Coaching? It's a head scratcher.

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Screw Calford.


Re: One thing I've noticed all year is the hands.......they


Jan 5, 2021, 3:53 PM

I agree. They do not to seem to as violent at the point of attack.

IMO if Hobby were still here, he would have Mascoll and KJ playing at a higher level. During Hobby's years there seemed to always be 1 guy that was from great to elite at rushing the passer. I've yet to see any players exceed their expectations under Bates. Hobby made a habit of developing players beyond expectations.

Brooks seemed to have tone have that trait with DT's as well.

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