My frame of reference started with the Red Parker days and climbed to the prosperity of Pell and then the Ford years. Living through the decline of the Hatfield and then West years I truly wondered if we’d ever be relevant again. Then came the Bowden years where we we’re mired in mediocrity and just never could get over the top. I just can’t understand how any real Clemson fan with an ounce of historical perspective could be out on a ledge at this juncture.