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Article in Raleigh N&O compares Clemson & USC standards
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Article in Raleigh N&O compares Clemson & USC standards


Dec 5, 2012, 11:44 PM

An article in Weds Raleigh News & Observer discusses academic integrity in College athletics. It compare Clemson & USC as examples of public universities.
Facts stated are SC graduates 52% of white football players and a "paltry" 32% of of its black players.
Clemson graduates 100% of white players and 73% of African-American players. Closing statement of article: "The realistic conclusion is that academics are taken more seriously at Clemson".

Article at http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/12/04/2524575/winning-football-by-degrees.html

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Re: Article in Raleigh N&O compares Clemson & USC standards


Dec 5, 2012, 11:53 PM

#### that's horrible. 32%? wow.

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That other school down the road is "impressive"***


Dec 5, 2012, 11:57 PM

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Re: Article in Raleigh N&O compares Clemson & USC standards


Dec 6, 2012, 12:39 AM

Dean Smith had a 100% graduation rate among his players for many years. It is now obvious why with all the epidemic academic fraud at UNC. I wouldn't accept all these numbers at face value.

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I sincerely hope you're not suggesting Clemson has


Dec 6, 2012, 2:25 AM

engaged in similar type academic fraud unc has been linked to. Because that would be a serious error.

No, all Clemson's academic success within the athletic department is due to the hard work and dedication of the folks in Vickery.

Interestingly, usuck built their own "Academic Enrichment Center" several years ago and like most things academic at that "school", it trails most of the rest of the country.

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Re: Article in Raleigh N&O compares Clemson & USC standards


Dec 6, 2012, 8:34 AM [ in reply to Re: Article in Raleigh N&O compares Clemson & USC standards ]

Convenient time for ole dean to get alzheimers/dementia, just saying.

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Re: Article in Raleigh N&O compares Clemson & USC standards


Dec 6, 2012, 6:58 AM

This can and should be used by Clemson as a recruiting tool!

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Re: Article in Raleigh N&O compares Clemson & USC standards


Dec 6, 2012, 7:09 AM

It's pretty obvious that it is utilized. Apparently, a very large percentage of "student athletes" (loosely), that attend the USuCk have no intentions of even bothering with academics.

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What do both schools have against African-Americans


Dec 6, 2012, 7:40 AM

That would make them graduate less of them? That seems mean.

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I think they failed to account for those entering the draft


Dec 6, 2012, 8:25 AM

I think they failed to account for those entering the draft early. We are lucky at Clemson that some come back to finish their degrees.

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In case anyone hasn't noticed, Spurdick always refers to


Dec 6, 2012, 7:47 AM

"that team in the upstate," not that school in the upstate. Somebody will say I'm splitting hairs, but I don't think so. Spurdick only cares about getting players into "school" so they can help his team. He couldn't care less about anyone getting an education, much less graduating. The fact that there are academic requirements is nothing but a pain in the butt to him.

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The definition of awesome!


This should be HUGE to recruits and their families.


Dec 6, 2012, 7:49 AM

This topic has been swirling around for days with many people arguinng that it doesn't matter. It should matter to recruits or at least to their parents. Even though most players start the process with the idea that they will be first round draft picks, most will never see an NFL field. The opportunity to get a free education is a huge advantage in life. The fact that Clemson does such a great job at graduating players should be a major factor in recruiting, and I'm guessing it is.

By the way, it is even more impressive considering the fact that Clemson is a more challenging school. I realize that is a subjective statement, but I do have degrees from both schools.

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so they are black at USC and African American at Clemson?


Dec 6, 2012, 7:55 AM

lol

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Re: so they are black at USC and African American at Clemson?


Dec 6, 2012, 8:00 AM

So what do you want?
Student Athletes or a good football team?

My daughter was accepted at Alabama and never sent in her
high school transcripts or SAT scores. (She didn't go)

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TYPICAL COOT! Thinks the two are mutually exclusive.


Dec 6, 2012, 8:03 AM

Dumb coot, degrees are for Tigers.

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Yeah, I want both, and


Dec 6, 2012, 8:18 AM

based on Clemson's solid recruiting classes during the time span at issue, we can have both.

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