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Over 232,000 US dead from Covid in 8 months and cases are
Nov 3, 2020, 11:40 AM
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as high as they have ever been and rising.
Now we have Fauci and Birx publicly contradicting Trump in the week before the election.
“We are entering the most concerning and most deadly phase of this pandemic,” Dr. Birx wrote, adding, “This is not about lockdowns — It hasn’t been about lockdowns since March or April. It’s about an aggressive balanced approach that is not being implemented.”
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All-In [47707]
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they'll make more money in the private sector anyway
Nov 3, 2020, 11:41 AM
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after he fires them
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Trump's closing message - "Biden will follow science and I
Nov 3, 2020, 11:46 AM
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will follow my ample gut."
I doubt he fires Birx, but he might fire Fauci. Biden will likely hire Fauci back, but if Trump fires Birx, Biden won't hire her back. Unlike Fauci, she has shown a lack of consistent integrity.
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Oculus Spirit [97386]
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Who did Birx replace? I forget. Was it Fauci?
Nov 3, 2020, 11:51 AM
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It's like a circus, hard to keep up. There's some new guy now that Birx is out of Trump's graces. What's his name?
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Re: Who did Birx replace? I forget. Was it Fauci?
Nov 3, 2020, 11:53 AM
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She was named to the post in February.
Nov 3, 2020, 11:56 AM
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I don't think there was one before her.
Atlas is the quack Trump listens to now. He just gave a propaganda interview with a registered Russian agent - Russian Times - to spread his lies.
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Re: Over 232,000 US dead from Covid in 8 months and cases are
Nov 3, 2020, 11:46 AM
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"an aggressive, balanced approach that isn't being implemented"
What the deuce is that supposed to mean?
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Lot o points [179962]
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He doesn't know.
Nov 3, 2020, 11:47 AM
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Nor does any other Dem.
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Hall of Famer [22351]
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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All-In [34357]
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well, he finally admitted Obummacare is 'bad health care'
Nov 3, 2020, 11:52 AM
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thats sumpthin
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Re: this
Nov 3, 2020, 12:32 PM
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When your candidate cannot speak is when you resort to citing the number of COVID deaths. Yawn to OP, but thanks to Franc!
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“In that creek over there, I found a couple of Shashone arro
Nov 3, 2020, 3:51 PM
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wheads”. That’s what the farmer from Napoleon Dynamite said.
No friggin clue what Biden was mumbling about.
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Ok, I'll dumb this down. Football analogy.
Nov 3, 2020, 12:06 PM
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Imagine you are calling a play. Wait, the coach doesn't even call a play. Now in the huddle the QB doesn't give a snap count. He doesn't give a designed play. He just tells the RB to be ready for a handoff and the WR's to try and get open. Ok, you snap the ball. If you manage to avoid the false start penalty and the play happens, your RB will go for the handoff. The QB will then either hand it off to him or keep it. He keeps it. If the QB manages to keep the ball without fumbling it, then he looks for an open receiver. They're running and cutting in all directions. One gets open, QB tosses the ball, WR cuts again and the pass is in the dirt or intercepted.
Now imagine for a second Tony Elliot calls in a play based on what the defense has been showing. In the huddle the QB calls the play given to him by the coach. The RB knows exactly what to do. Whole team does. The WR's know exactly which routes to run. The line knows how to block for it. The QB also gives a snap count, so everyone starts at the same time.
One of those plays will work FAR BETTER than the other. The first play is Trump's response. The second play is what Birx and Fauci want.
I hope that makes a little sense. Hopefully.
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110%er [5543]
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Re: Ok, I'll dumb this down. Football analogy.
Nov 3, 2020, 12:34 PM
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Can you please give me the football analogy for every country in Europe?
You people so desperately hate Trump, you cling to any belief you can to make yourself feel better.
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China has no cases
Nov 3, 2020, 1:34 PM
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Solicialism works!!!
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Look at where the majority of new cases are
Nov 3, 2020, 11:51 AM
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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it's better just to mock...
Nov 3, 2020, 11:52 AM
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than try to give facts
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Virus is more contagious, less lethal
Nov 3, 2020, 11:51 AM
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Yes, more cases, but death rate per case is down.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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how has our approach...
Nov 3, 2020, 11:55 AM
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by considering both the disease and the economy fared against the model European approach?
Dark winter or learn to live with it?
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Oculus Spirit [80688]
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Cuckston T-bag, didn't you say we'd have 250,000 deaths by
Nov 3, 2020, 11:58 AM
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election day?
How's that prognosticating career working for you?
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All-In [47707]
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well, its election month dontchaknow***
Nov 3, 2020, 12:00 PM
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Oculus Spirit [80688]
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No, it was 250,000 deaths.
Nov 3, 2020, 12:02 PM
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"It's only 6%"
Yeah, just a number, amiright?
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Hall of Famer [22351]
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I believe it was 250,000 by year end and 235,000 by election
Nov 3, 2020, 12:06 PM
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day. I probably undershot on the year end total.
Still, a whole lot of people are dead.
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Oculus Spirit [80688]
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No, you wanted way more dead before the election
Nov 3, 2020, 7:23 AM
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In your perverted mind, that must make Trump look worse, and that's definitely what you care about more than human lives.
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Bless your little heart.***
Nov 3, 2020, 12:18 PM
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Oculus Spirit [80688]
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I'm glad you agree.
Nov 3, 2020, 12:20 PM
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At least this time, you aren't lying. You seem to have trouble with the truth.
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I hear a lot of people complaining about how the president
Nov 3, 2020, 11:52 AM
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has handled COVID-19, but not a lot of suggestions regarding how it should be done better.
Even the experts have had to figure it out as they learned more. For example:
-Masks don't work, yes they do -Flatten the curve, wait for vaccine -Socially distance, isolate at home -Masks protect everyone, masks only protect others -Wear eye protection, don't wear eye protection -Virus spreads via droplets only, no it's also airborne -Virus can live on surfaces, no it can't -You're only contagious if you're symptomatic, you're contagious even when not symptomatic
We should all be able to agree that NOBODY knew much about this virus early on, and we are still learning about it today.
Moving forward, what do these experts currently recommend? Politics aside, and criticisms of what's already happened aside, what are their recommendations moving forward?
Any reasonable approach should look at all factors, including testing, case numbers, deaths, employment numbers, the livelihood of business owners, and the livelihood of the average American.
Reducing it to just case numbers is not productive, as that is only a small part of this whole situation.
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we will agree on that...
Nov 3, 2020, 12:04 PM
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as soon as the votes are counted and it can't be used as a political issue.
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Re: I hear a lot of people complaining about how the president
Nov 3, 2020, 12:37 PM
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Exactly!
It is a big mystery and to presume someone could have done better is completely ignorant or disingenuous.
There will be a million dead due to COVID if we keep counting. If Trump wins you can keep blaming him. If Biden wins, people will keep dying and what/who will you blame then? You won't be talking about it because the MSM will stop covering it.
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Yet, it is how he approaches his job that matters
Nov 3, 2020, 12:54 PM
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From those who worked for him inside the oval office he doesn't take the job all that seriously and treated his entire four years as one continuous field trip, filled with rallies and campaign events, but not much actual leadership or work.
If you are grading his performance, look at just a few of the questions that popped up at the beginning of the pandemic and try to imagine the answer. If there were obvious problems then, going forward I don't know why we'd expect much improvement.
Would you trust the Chinese leadership to be honest about the problem?
Would you read the daily intelligence briefs and taken them seriously?
Would you have asked for the existing pandemic preparedness plan, read it front to back, and then executed the plan?
Would you have made the rise and fall of the stock market the primary input for decision making?
Would you be prepared to #### a lot of people off, including business pals, and members of your own administration and party?
What the F happened during the entire month of February?
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You didn't answer my question.
Nov 3, 2020, 1:05 PM
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What specifically is being recommended from this point forward to handle this pandemic better?
If people are truly interested in improving things, the solution will be forward-looking. All of the criticism of what's already been done are pointless.
Again, I haven't heard specifics from anyone as to how they would do things differently moving forward.
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My suggestion would be to start taking the job seriously
Nov 3, 2020, 1:16 PM
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and not treat it like a business opportunity.
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how many less cases are the result of taking the job
Nov 3, 2020, 2:45 PM
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seriously?
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Orange Blooded [2684]
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we should fire her ### too
Nov 3, 2020, 2:00 PM
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but nice deflection
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Re: we should fire her ### too
Nov 3, 2020, 2:13 PM
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I think critics would say more and better testing, mask
Nov 3, 2020, 1:18 PM
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mandates, and enforced lockdowns. Or some mix thereof. The argument is, of course, all of that may not have significantly affected overall numbers, and if it did, would it have been worth the economic and emotional cost? None of that can be answered without a great deal of speculation and bias. Personally, I think there is a PROBABLY common sense "best response" somewhere in the middle. It's a pandemic, and no politician could have stopped it. Nobody anywhere in the world did.
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Joe probably won't retweet things that run counter to the...
Nov 3, 2020, 1:23 PM
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public statements of his administration. He probably won't wink and nod at firing Fauci at rallies. He probably won't incorrectly contradict his own public health officials when they say things that he thinks make his poll numbers suffer.
Trump handled the pandemic like he's handled everything else, like some kind of Jekyll and Hyde.
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Yeah. Cuomo skewered is with that nursing home
Nov 3, 2020, 1:07 PM
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Move Otherwise our numbers would be better
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you can't have an aggressive balanced approach that doesn't
Nov 3, 2020, 1:10 PM
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mean lockdown/business limitations of some sort. If you could then just wearing masks would suffice.
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All-TigerNet [13356]
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Over 232,000 US dead WITH Covid
Nov 3, 2020, 1:28 PM
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Fixed it for you.
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