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All-TigerNet [10901]
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How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 27, 2016, 11:29 PM
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without ever getting 50% of the vote, because of Ross Perot. Now, Hillary may well get elected because blowhard Trump keeps getting 35% of the primary votes, although 65% are against him. Meanwhile, someone with a real shot at beating Hillary, like John Kasich, gets left behind.
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 27, 2016, 11:31 PM
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I like Kasich, but he does not have the financial war chest to win and he is letting the other GOP candidates suck up all the oxygen at the debates.
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Yet, he is the only one consistently making sense in the
Feb 27, 2016, 11:39 PM
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debates. And he has a proven track record as senator and governor. He is by far the most qualified candidate.
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Re: Yet, he is the only one consistently making sense in the
Feb 27, 2016, 11:57 PM
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I agree, but we are talking reality TV here.The GOP has been over run by an emotionally charged base of reactionary mouth breathers that equate talking tough to good leadership.
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110%er [9174]
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You mean like Reagan?
Feb 28, 2016, 12:41 AM
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If that works out like that again, somewhere, at a Kappa Alpha Order kegger right now, your next Demo candidate is selling buicks on an antbed.
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Re: You mean like Reagan?
Feb 28, 2016, 12:28 PM
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speaking of mouf breathers
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Unreal situation..so much so we need to have a college to Grow or Prep one for POTUS!
Feb 28, 2016, 9:59 AM
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Saying...couldn't be worse than what we have what with a liar, socialist, bully, kind doctor & a nice governor.
Need people who are educated on every facet of government..from military, economics, legislation, etc.
Who would that look like?!
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That would look like Hillary Clinton.
Feb 28, 2016, 10:03 AM
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According to the Republican candidates for president the liars are Rubio, Cruz and Trump. Kasich and Carson don't matter.
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Re: Trump appeals to booger eaters that have voted Republican
Feb 28, 2016, 12:27 PM
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The republicans have spent two generations creating the atmosphere for Trump to be successful and are now upset when it actually happens.
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Re: Trump appeals to booger eaters that have voted Republican
Feb 28, 2016, 12:35 PM
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thanks obama
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Well, if the GOP had not abandoned its base
Feb 28, 2016, 10:11 PM
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over the last 15 years, they wouldn't be left with so many irate voters.
Although I certainly don't expect the leaders within the Republican Party to recognize their own shortcomings. To them, blaming the media and those who are voting is much easier.
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 27, 2016, 11:49 PM
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You do realize that this time will be #3 - right?
But I probably missed that "50% of the vote" thingy 'cause I have no idea about that.
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Yes, I said Bill got elected twice, and Hillary's would be
Feb 27, 2016, 11:58 PM
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the 3rd. And it's a fact, Bill never got 50% of the popular vote, although the Dems couldn't seem to remember that when they complained about George W getting elected with less than 50% against Gore.
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Re: Yes, I said Bill got elected twice, and Hillary's would be
Feb 28, 2016, 9:00 AM
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On the other hand, the ONLY reason Clinton didn't get 50% of the vote in 92 or 96 was that Ross Perot ran the most successful third party campaign run during our lifetime. Neither major party was going to win with 50% of the vote. Bush and Gore were virtually one on one. Whole different thing.
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky??? Interns too?!
Feb 27, 2016, 11:56 PM
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I'm sure all the little "femenist" interns will have a chance to get lucky too with old pants-suit herself.....Bill will likely be checking into his handbags & cigar companies ??
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Here's How. The Dems Keep
Feb 28, 2016, 12:08 AM
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promising folks the old carpetbagger line - "We'll give you 40 acres and a mule!" And the folks always keep believing it.
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All-TigerNet [10901]
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And they have the King of all promisers now...Bernie
Feb 28, 2016, 12:18 AM
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Instead of 40 acres & a mule, he's promising $15 and a goat.
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Re: And they have the King of all promisers now...Bernie
Feb 28, 2016, 1:00 AM
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I have never believed this e-mail stuff would stick to Hillary but with the latest release, it appears that 60 or so were marked classified. I don't believe the Justice Dept. can sweep it under the rug any longer even though they will try. She is most dishonest woman in politics and people vote for her. Baffling.
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Have you missed what's going on in the Republican Primaries?
Feb 28, 2016, 10:11 AM
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According to your candidates, all of the Republican candidates are extraordinary liars.
Good luck with that.
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Re: Have you missed what's going on in the Republican Primaries?
Feb 28, 2016, 10:50 AM
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Politician is Greek for Bullsh*tter .
Wake up , nobody that wants to run the show will ever tell the whole truth to those they are trying to get to pull their lever .
It's funny that we as Americans squabble over the choices we are given instead of taking control and making our own choices .
American political process hasn't worked for the people in over 50 years .
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I'm wide awake and loving every minute of it. With Trump
Feb 28, 2016, 10:59 AM
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(or Cruz, or Rubio for that matter, though they have not shot) as the Republican nominee, the issue of honesty won't be a hand that Republicans can win with, which I think is what you just said.
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Orange Blooded [4504]
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What are you the most excited about? Free education,
Feb 28, 2016, 6:20 PM
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free insurance or redistribution of wealth?
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Hall of Famer [22381]
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Having Donald Trump as the Republican opponent
Feb 28, 2016, 10:51 PM
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in the general election is probably what I am most excited about. Although, I might prefer Ted Cruz ever so slightly. He may be even less electable.
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Re: Having Donald Trump as the Republican opponent
Feb 29, 2016, 12:33 AM
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The only problem with socialism is you eventually run out of other people's money. Quote Unquote.
If you are middle class like I am and like having 39% of your bonus taken from you after you are by no means living high on the hog vote establishment! Our government special interest groups and people that do not won't to work hard to move up are stealing from the lower, middle, and upper middle class. A flat tax of some sort is needed so everyone pays in. Not saying my family should not pay a little more than those that are making minimum wage, but everyone should pay something.
Look at the Iran deal which has no signature, ISIS rise due to pulling out of IRAQ, etc. Look to this for the current party and Clinton.
Unfortunately I have lost all confidence in either party not to be run by the far left the far right or special interest. Washington is broken. Term limits are needed as well as flexibility for a candidate to have an individual opinion that does not necessarily tow the party line.
I am also sick and tired of judicial activism. Upholding the constitution is your job if you are a judge. How this position has become so politicized is beyond me. We have a bunch of hypocrites in both parties that change their tunes when they are in power. Listen to the sound bites from them dems in the past about nominations and now they are changing their tunes and visa versus. It is like we vote for a bunch of toddlers.
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What an overly simplistic bunch of horse hockey.
Feb 29, 2016, 9:01 AM
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Please educate yourself on the issues more than just a superficial listing of right wing talking points.
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Re: Having Donald Trump as the Republican opponent
Feb 29, 2016, 9:15 AM
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You probably get a bunch of your bonus back once you file your income taxes if you're middle class.
Welfare is a small piece of the overall budget. I'll never understand how you guys continue to willfully ignore that fact.
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those were retro actively classified by a different agency...
Feb 28, 2016, 1:28 PM
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than the state department. Some of the information in the emails has already been reported by news agencies long before the Republican's once again waste tax payers dollars for the 1000th failed manufactured scandal against the Clinton's. By the way I don't like the Clinton's, it's just all the allegations against them have always turned out to be made up BS by Republican's
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 28, 2016, 5:24 AM
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Watched Trump's speech from Texas on Friday and he looked and sounded like he was bat crap crazy. No way anyone like that should even be close to the oval office. I'll probably be voting for the Liberatarian if he gets nominated, or part of my anatomy. Hillary should be in jail and Bernie is a crazy communist.
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 28, 2016, 5:52 AM
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It's almost as if a huge practical joke is being played out on Americans during this POTUS election cycle .
The remaining 5 candidates who appear to have garnered enough votes to stay in it are all kind of special in each of their own little ways . You have to love that both parties have effectively crapped in their own Corn Flakes on this one .
When will we meet who we csn seriously vote for ? Where are the mods ?
Worst Election Field Ever !
#WEFE
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 28, 2016, 8:01 AM
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Trump is the Obama of the Republican party. You can tell his followers about things he actually said or did and they just don't give a crap. If anyone is remotely interested in keeping what is left of the Constitution, Trump, Clinton, and Bernie aren't the people you throw your support behind.
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 28, 2016, 11:34 PM
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Tell me something Obama did that I should be offended about. It may just be that people agree with the things you disagree with.
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Merely observations and not a political bent, but
Feb 28, 2016, 5:55 AM
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the Clintons, severally and collectively, are amongst the shrewest politicians in the country.
They've played the game for most of their lives and have a knack for turning luck into fortune. If the race becomes a Clinton/Trump meet, no doubt the Dems will launch all-out nuclear warfare with both Clintons directing the attack. The tactic: to scare the he1l out of the American people with the possibility of Donald Trump in the White House. The result: the Clintons won the White House twice; the Donald will realize just how formidable the pair can be.
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I agree that Hillary is the "shrewest".***
Feb 28, 2016, 8:08 AM
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LOL......***
Feb 28, 2016, 12:14 PM
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Re: Merely observations and not a political bent, but
Feb 28, 2016, 8:12 AM
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I really don't need anybody to scare the hell out of me that Trump might be president. I am not a Hillary fan. But, if my choices are Hillary and Trump (or Hillary and Cruz) then I will vote for Hillary. It is really that simple for me.
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I'd vote for tinker before I'd vote for Hillary
Feb 28, 2016, 7:16 PM
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there isn't a military person alive that will vote for hillary
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Re: Merely observations and not a political bent, but
Feb 28, 2016, 8:21 AM
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The republicans can't win the national election until something changes. When Donald Trump is a serious candidate in your party it's a sign it has lost its relevance.
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The Republican Party is trying with all of their might to
Feb 28, 2016, 9:44 AM
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scare the hell out of the American People about a Trump Presidency.
I got my popcorn and I am enjoying the show.
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Kasich has No chance under any circumstances
Feb 28, 2016, 8:14 AM
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of doing anything against Hillary, Don, anyone.... Trumps getting 35% (your number) because the vote is split several ways among the republicans. That will change as the cellar dwellers drop out. But he may not like what happens. We'll see, but Kasich is a nice guy that can't win
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I just can't decide
Feb 28, 2016, 8:25 AM
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Which I liked the most about Clinton's presidency..... the peace or the prosperity
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Under a Republican Congress.....***
Feb 28, 2016, 8:50 AM
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and the Tech bubble "prosperity" was a fraud that went pop!***
Feb 28, 2016, 12:31 PM
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I used to like Bill Clinton but he gave our economy away
Feb 28, 2016, 10:41 AM
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to the banks, it just didn't hit all the way until W's term. The 2008 melt down started with him.
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Re: I used to like Bill Clinton but he gave our economy away
Feb 28, 2016, 12:31 PM
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I think you mean the Newt led congress ruined our economy. I used to think Bill Clinton would be remembered as a great president. But now it's hard to argue in 50 years he won't be remembered for giving in to the Republicans.
Clinton sold out his voters on things like welfare reform and healthcare.
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or the high incarceration rates or NAFTA or...
Feb 28, 2016, 1:32 PM
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voting for the war in Iraq or the tech bubble bursting or more corporate control of the country
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Re: or the high incarceration rates or NAFTA or...
Feb 28, 2016, 5:25 PM
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Your girl voted for that war
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The Republican's childish arguing with each other is...
Feb 28, 2016, 8:37 AM
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gift wrapping the election for Hillary. Too bad a mature candidate (Carson) doesn't have support.
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Ben Carson? You can't be serious..
Feb 28, 2016, 10:43 AM
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though I must say, that he had the line of the night during the last debate. I haven't laughed that hard in a while.
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"Is Carson really a brain surgeon, or is that something
Feb 28, 2016, 11:10 AM
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someone called him sarcastically and it just stuck?" - Seth Myers.
Ben Carson illustrates the difference between intellect and wisdom. The question is, after this election, would anyone have enough confidence in Carson to let him operate on their brain?
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Republicans are stupid, everyone knows that. Dems are cool.
Feb 28, 2016, 12:33 PM
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Things I've learned from Comedy Central.
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You could have learned that from watching the
Feb 28, 2016, 12:38 PM
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debates. What a freak show you guys are having.
Viva Trump!
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 28, 2016, 9:02 AM
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Isn't the real question how could the GOP base be so fn gullible? ??Trump is an absolute train wreck. That last "debate" was like watching / handful of middle school girls argue over who's prettier during recess, a complete & utter embarrassment to the entire party. I find it daunting that, out of an entire great nation, these are the only candidates that were chosen to represent the Republican Party. It's deplorable actually.
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I agree. As an independent, even I was disgusted watching
Feb 28, 2016, 10:45 AM
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the debate.
We need term limits, bills with only ONE agenda, campaign reform, etc. What we have now is a joke.
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Hillary hasn't conducted a "real" press conference
Feb 28, 2016, 9:15 AM
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since early December. Why wont she take questions from the MSM?
Something to hide, Hills?
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Trump is winning because the Republican field is so weak
Feb 28, 2016, 10:08 AM
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and scared of him. He's got the nomination wrapped up.
I doubt he gets 15% of the Latino vote in the general election. Democrats are going to win in a landslide.
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If you object to the direction
Feb 28, 2016, 10:43 AM
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Our country is going then the best way to change course is vote for the republican nominee regardless of who it is. I see Trump winning the republican nomination and though he is my last choice, I'd rather Trump win than Bernie or Hillary. I want to break this cycle and hopefully reverse obama's policies. Wishful thinking!
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Re: If you object to the direction
Feb 28, 2016, 12:44 PM
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Things like universal healthcare and free education are inevitable. You might be able to delay them but you're never going to reverse them.
Maybe we will see a conservative revolution again like in the 80s but it's only temporary. But when your policies are designed to benefit the few and make life worse for the masses you're never going to be able to sustain it
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Re: If you object to the direction
Feb 28, 2016, 1:03 PM
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Do they not discuss politics on the chicken boards?
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if it wasn't for the failure of the Vietnam war...
Feb 28, 2016, 1:49 PM
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The conservative revolution of the 80's would not have happened. Will have to say the Republican's were very smart in the way they used anxieties created by losing in Vietnam to get enough Americans to vote for the very same people who caused their incomes to stagnate while the cost of living rose.
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History would say otherwise
Feb 28, 2016, 1:59 PM
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and by history I mean citing something other than 21st century Europe
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OK, ok..don't vote, or stop working, or don't pay taxes!
Feb 28, 2016, 3:03 PM
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One of those should change the equation of what type candidates we get in the future..if there is a long-term future for America.
As a novice historian (I forget who landed in America in 1609 or was it 1906?) I've read that a country goes down the tube when it allows large groups of non-invasive immigrants to settle within its borders..and they really don't want to be there, to assimilate, learn the home country's language or culture, to become citizens, stay among themselves, etc.
Does that ring a bell?! I believe that's what's happening to the USA now..but for political benefits that mostly help the Dems in probable future voters in effort to widely tilt the electorate & cause the Republucan party to suffocate into non-existence. Seeing it now!
And, since this Country was founded on religious freedom ..and then later declared it's existence apart from a bullying country ..with the freedom for everyone to succeed as they chose from hard work & getting ahead & keeping most of the fruits for themselves & family..
We now see this idea put on the back burner when a Socialist like Bernie come along & say it's ok to belittle the already successful or rich by taxing them to death..offering free college..etc.
What's next...free grades ( like UNC) to go along with the free college OR take the homes & businesses of the rich and move illegal immigrants into them?!
And, if the American dream IS over ( getting ahead by hard work or educating oneself) then why bother to work one's #### off..but just drift or slide by.
Whatever, I am very afraid for America as I knew it...not counting the drug/work issues, too many out of work & living off entitlments, low moral & morals, more secular society, etc.
Thank goodness to have a super college & sports program to follow!
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Re: OK, ok..don't vote, or stop working, or don't pay taxes!
Feb 28, 2016, 4:58 PM
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Get ' em Bill !
Go Tigers !
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Re: If you object to the direction
Feb 28, 2016, 4:57 PM
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Why....we've been a successful country without policies like that.
I think people need to study what really happens when you elect socialist and communist into leadership.
I'll make a wager with you that it reduces the number of illegals coming to our country .
Who's going to pay for all the freebies?
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Re: If you object to the direction
Feb 28, 2016, 5:01 PM
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All great nations fall. Socialism will pull out the very foundation of our country and we not be the power house that we were. We will no longer lead the world we will begin to follow.
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Re: If you object to the direction
Feb 28, 2016, 5:04 PM
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We've been a socialist country for nearly 100 years...
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Re: If you object to the direction
Feb 28, 2016, 5:03 PM
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We've been successful but wouldn't it be nice to be more successful?
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I think people will be surprised by how many votes trump gets...
Feb 28, 2016, 10:48 AM
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From the moderate democrat voters in the battleground states. I think trump would beat Clinton
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Trump gets less than 40% of the Republican vote and is
Feb 28, 2016, 10:55 AM
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polling poorly among all minority groups including women. As the race gets tighter he gets nastier and further alienates these groups as well as moderates and independents. The next two weeks will be carpet bombing that will continue to damage the Republican brand to the point that no Republican can win the general, though it will be Trump who get the nomination.
It's getting nastier and nastier.
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Kasich is just a much of a nut job as the rest...
Feb 28, 2016, 1:19 PM
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It seems you are confusing the republican primary with the general election, which hasn't happened. The Republican Party is collapsing. They invited the nut jobs in and the nut jobs have taken over their party.
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Re: Kasich is just a much of a nut job as the rest...
Feb 28, 2016, 4:12 PM
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Speaking of nut jobs, the democrats are nominating a liar that failed in her last job, or a socialist that wants to create an even larger bureaucratic log jam in DC. Please explain the appeal of socialism.
When I think if socialism, I see oppressed citizens that can't speak out against the ruling party or else they are silenced.
A government that takes more power and. Liberties away also have more restrictions on your freedoms. We shouldn't even be having such a debate.
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Your man Trump is a socialist when it comes to the nation's
Feb 28, 2016, 4:44 PM
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citizen's health care as well as medicare and "social" security. Perhaps you should ask him why he finds it so appealing.
According to Rubio, Cruz and Trump and their recent statements, there are no bigger liars in politics than Trump, Rubio and Cruz. The Donald told a whopper just this morning on national television. So, obviously, honesty is not real high up on your list of concerns.
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Kasich is as crazy as the rest of the Republicans.
Feb 28, 2016, 3:31 PM
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He just has a better game face. It's like establishment Republicans now all trying to push Rubio over the line. Rubio has positions that are equally as crazy as Trump's.
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When Kasich said that the Fed's low rate policies were
Feb 28, 2016, 3:58 PM
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hurting employment, that proved your point in my mind. Nice guy, but no understanding whatsoever of economics.
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When Kasich said that the Fed's low rate policies were
Feb 28, 2016, 3:58 PM
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hurting employment, that proved your point in my mind. Nice guy, but no understanding whatsoever of economics.
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This Has All Been
Feb 28, 2016, 5:06 PM
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Properly organized. The trump thing is a ruse. He is close friends with the clintons and this was his plan. If you believe for one minute that trump should be president, well clearly you need to reevaluate. They were all banking on him running as independent to split vote - he even intimated this point 2 wks ago. The goal is to put Hillary in White House and she will be there
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 28, 2016, 6:10 PM
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Who ever is our next president will be an improvement.
Thanks to Obama the middle class people are hurting now.
Who you think is paying for all the poor people to just sit on
thiers butts and not try to find a job.
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 28, 2016, 6:14 PM
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I'm middle class and I'm not hurting , B. Not refuting what your saying at all , but I have actually never been better financially than in the last few years .
My industry is doing well , and there looks to be long term stability there .
I don't know why it is, I just like that it is .
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 28, 2016, 6:41 PM
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Democrats election goes to HRC. Pretty much rigged.
The Clintons have masted a fortune on the American people and Bernie was a bum until 40. They have never had a real job.
When Bill passed the trade treaty NAFTA which opened up the flood gate of jobs to China and Mexico! The American economy downward
fall began. It is so sad that nothing is made in America anymore. Sad that most do not understand that stuff from China is killing us. How
things are made and what is in them.
Trump is doing well as he has worked 20 hours a day but he did not do it on the backs of American by working the government.
The working class of American people are just tired of the Washington cartel. The money is going to run out!
Even if Trump is elected. He will probably bring some common sense to government as a Moderate Republican!
I guarantee that more working Democrats will vote for Trump then Hillary.
If Hillary gets elected. Football will not exist as there will not be any money left for it. Even the rich! Your freedoms will be gone too.
It is hard to buy groceries now!
For the gamecocks, keep buying the chicken and beef at your favorite fast food restaurant. It probably come from China.
Everything free for all. That means no one has to work anymore! Sounds like a great plan. Not a laughing matter!
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 28, 2016, 7:19 PM
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Labor unions producing shoddy products didn't exactly help matters
My father told me when I was a small boy that crooked politicians and labor unions would ruin America. My dad was a lot smarter than I ever gave him credit for being . I'm almost glad he isn't alive today to see where we are
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Re: How can the Clintons be so lucky? Bill gets elected twice
Feb 28, 2016, 10:06 PM
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Bill Clinton = Bill Cosby lite.
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Well, the first time a ham sandwich would
Feb 29, 2016, 5:35 AM
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have beaten Bush, Sr. Just the kind of year it was.
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