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How Basketball could possibly make the tourney
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How Basketball could possibly make the tourney


Jan 24, 2020, 2:13 PM

If we finish conference play at 12-8 and win lets say 1-2 games in the ACC Tournament. Do you think we make the tourney?

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Re: How Basketball could possibly make the tourney


Jan 24, 2020, 2:25 PM

YES. NO. MAYBE. I DON't know. We will see.

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it begins***


Jan 24, 2020, 2:28 PM



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You aren't going to use this opportunity


Jan 24, 2022, 11:37 AM

to tell us that our coaches and players stink, and that there is no way we will possibly make the tournament? Because that's what you usually do.

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True, but then again that's what our basketball team usually


Jan 24, 2020, 3:48 PM

does also.

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Re: You aren't going to use this opportunity


Jan 24, 2020, 5:40 PM [ in reply to You aren't going to use this opportunity ]

Quote a single time I’ve said we wouldn’t make the tourney and been wrong. Or any time I’ve ever said anything negative about a player. I’ll delete my account if you can. You’re a liar deflecting as usual. While we’re at it, where is your follow up to telling me the 5th in NET / 6th in RPI ACC isn’t terrible this year?

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The ACC not being quite as strong this year =/= the ACC being terrible.


Jan 24, 2020, 9:34 PM

You’re deflecting.

Support this team. I dare you.

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Re: The ACC not being quite as strong this year =/= the ACC being terrible.


Jan 24, 2020, 9:57 PM

For the better part of my life the ACC was THE college basketball conference. Dominant in a way that breathless ESPN commentators try to convince us the SEC is in football. Terrible is a subjective word so I can’t argue as a point of fact. But, as someone who has watched Clemson basketball longer than the Brownell era, for the ACC to be the worst Power 5 conference in basketball (which it is by both metrics) is terrible. If being dead last amongst major conferences =/= to being terrible is a sword you want to die on then more power to you.

Also, i don’t think you know what deflecting means. I, as usual, am responding directly to your statements and assertions. You are the one changing the subject and running away when plainly wrong.

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I don’t think you are interested in supporting this team.***


Jan 24, 2020, 10:48 PM



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Re: I don’t think you are interested in supporting this team.***


Jan 24, 2020, 11:40 PM

That line of questioning / attack is deflective on it’s face. It’s also purely argumentative. There is nothing I can say that will persuade you I’m good enough as a fan. And what would I use to prove anything anyway? You use the idea that someone doesn’t support the team well enough / isn’t a “real” fan commonly (on myself and others) when you’ve lost on actual facts. Just as you have now deflected from discussing the ACC rank of dead last amongst major conferences this season. Which is what makes your “how we make the NCAA tourney” rhetoric all the more ridiculous. The table is set. The ACC is looking at a 5 bid year. But you would have to care more about Clemson basketball than Brownell’s continued paycheck to be honest about where our chances really stand.

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Actually, the easiest way is to WIN the ACCT


Jan 24, 2020, 2:56 PM

I don't think Clemson has ever won the ACCT :( However, there is always the first time, why not this year ?

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Well we made the finals back in 2008


Jan 24, 2020, 3:22 PM

and we can certainly do it again and win it.

Man that was a fun team with Booker, Mays, Rivers, Hammonds, TO and Stitt. I'm missing a starter from that list, at forward...I can't remember, getting too old!

Heck of a coaching staff too with OP, Shaka Smart and Ron Bradley.

It would be fun to have that excitement again!

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Our starters that year were


Jan 24, 2020, 3:32 PM

typically Booker, Mays, Rivers, Hammonds, and Stitt.

Sam Perry started half of the games, but only averaged about 10 minutes per game. Raymond Sykes started 6 games, and averaged almost 15 minutes per game.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/schools/clemson/2008.html

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Re: Our starters that year were


Jan 24, 2020, 7:26 PM

I still can’t believe we lost Stitt so young. One of my all time favorites.

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One of mine too. He played with a fearlessness I loved to see.


Jan 24, 2020, 9:36 PM

Dawes reminds me of him in that way.

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I had to cheat and look it up, in that ACC Final Perry was


Jan 24, 2020, 3:45 PM [ in reply to Well we made the finals back in 2008 ]

our other starter:

Hammonds - 34 mins
Rivers - 34 mins
Perry - 15 mins
Mays - 33 mins
Booker - 33 mins

Potter and Sykes came off the bench for 10 mins each, Stitt got 17 mins off the bench and TO got 14 off the bench.

Rivers had 28 points in that game, he was such a great player for us.

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Just saw this post.


Jan 24, 2020, 3:04 PM

My thoughts are here:

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/thread/Our-path-to-the-NCAA-Tournament-1976095?tstart=0

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Re: How Basketball could possibly make the tourney


Jan 24, 2020, 8:03 PM

If they expand the tournament 128 teams it will be no problem

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