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It might help their credibily a touch.
Jun 15, 2017, 12:47 AM
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That slogan was always so laughable for the most biased network.
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Re: It might help their credibily a touch.
Jun 15, 2017, 6:12 AM
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Most biased is laughable as long as CNN is creating fake news and news scenes and MSNBC is blowing hot air.
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CNN is moderate, but leans left. MSNBC is like Fox to an..
Jun 15, 2017, 7:54 AM
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extent. MSNBC is far left wing and biased. That said, they didn't use the slogan fair and balanced. Fox was just an absolute joke at all times with their bias. Not only that, Fox was almost comical the way they told their fans/viewers what they wanted to hear without reporting the news. Then you add all of the cheesy music and hype it was just comical. That's why it was so easy for guys like Stephen Colbert to have his show on Comedy Central. Fox was just laughably absurd. Still is. Merica!
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Re: CNN is moderate, but leans left. MSNBC is like Fox to an..
Jun 15, 2017, 7:56 AM
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CNN creating a staged Muslim rally is hardly moderate. I knew they were bad, but when that footage came out, I totally gave up on them. They are creating a narrative out of thin air. Completely irresponsible.
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You basically fell for fake news on the right that creates..
Jun 15, 2017, 8:09 AM
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random hysteria. CNN is left leaning, but not wacky like Fox with their nuttiness.
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Dude you are blind as a bat***
Jun 15, 2017, 8:39 AM
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That's not it
Jun 15, 2017, 12:10 PM
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He got caught upside down in the Reach Around Gang a-typical 'chain.'
-Doc Tesla
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Re: CNN is moderate, but leans left. MSNBC is like Fox to an..
Jun 15, 2017, 12:11 PM
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The fact you believe this shows how gullible you are.
The police helped those protesters stage in front of the cameras. There was a clear tape to keep people out. The media there just recorded what was happening including CNN.
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Re: CNN is moderate, but leans left. MSNBC is like Fox to an..
Jun 15, 2017, 6:11 PM
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> CNN creating a staged Muslim rally is hardly > moderate. I knew they were bad, but when that footage > came out, I totally gave up on them. They are > creating a narrative out of thin air. Completely > irresponsible.
What your saying is just plain false. Cnn didn't stage anything. As long as you limit your information to the Blaze, Washington Beacon , InfoWars and Hannity your going to here fake news and your going to repeat it as fact, like you did here.
Your just wrong, it never happened.
http://www.snopes.com/cnn-muslim-protests-london/
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That's because you're used to the wackiness and
Jun 15, 2017, 8:56 AM
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absurdness of Fox News. Like i said, Fox News is why Stephen Colbert created that satirical mockery on Comedy Central and why it worked so well. Fox News basically created Stephen Colbert. CNN is left leaning. MSNBC is far left leaning. Fox is just crazy right wing. All Fox has to do is tell their viewers that they are great American patriot heroes for watching. That it is the viewers vs the world. Throw some country music about being great patriot heroes, and their audience is in. Maybe show a lot stars and stripes with some eagles soaring. Throw is some war on Christmas segments, and show a few nutty liberals and act like that is the norm of the left, and Fox viewers are in a frenzy. Fox is a brilliant network. I could ###### that show and create that format. They know how to manipulate their viewers. Fox is all business with fake news and fake patriotism. It all adds up to big bucks. Give people what they want. Don't even give the viewer the news. Tell them what they want to hear. It's a great business model.
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dude, CNN is 24/7 Trump basking for the past 6 months
Jun 15, 2017, 9:16 AM
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it's nonstop. They are deranged.
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Understandable. Trump has been a mess in many ways.
Jun 15, 2017, 9:24 AM
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Most of America thinks he has been a mess.
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Agree Fox is right wing, but not crazy
Jun 15, 2017, 9:26 AM
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Sure, they may have a nutcase on occasionally, but that is not the network anchors, regular commentators, etc. Fox is no more right leaning than CNN is left leaning
You are normally reasonable in your opinions, but you are off on this one....
Imho....
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You talking about the network with the leg cam?
Jun 15, 2017, 11:36 AM
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And the whole sexual harassment thing?
Don't try to drag down other networks to that level.
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Re: It might help their credibily a touch.
Jun 15, 2017, 9:25 PM
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There are very few stories on Fox News that are not distorted or stretched to be untruthful. And, then, there are the outright lies that they continually blast for days. Did you know what security for DT's first 100 days cost more than Obama's security for the whole (election) year of 2016. I guarantee it didn't get reported on Fox. Yet, they lied and Limbaugh lied about the costs of an Obama trip when they multiplied the costs by 10 and reported it as fact. When numerous sources (CBO and media) reported their error to them, they ran the story for 3 more days, stating the incorrect numbers as facts. If Fox is your main source of news, you're burying your head in the sand.
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Re: Fox finally giving up it's false advertising
Jun 15, 2017, 8:47 AM
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Fox does have liberals on some of their shows. The other networks side with their agenda as much or more so the Fox. I used to watch NBC and CNN all the time and they are more biased than FOX.
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No even ballpark close. Fox doesn't have real..
Jun 15, 2017, 9:23 AM
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liberals on their shows. They have pushover morons. MSNBC has a conservative who has his own show every morning. MSNBC is far left, but they don't put pushovers on either side on their shows and they have conservatives on daily. CNN has tough conservatives on daily. Fox puts on some nutty liberal goofball, possibly some know it all liberal college student, or some wacky pushover on to feed their audience who falls for it, all to obfuscate basic issues. Fox is about hot chicks dressing like they are at a cocktail party, eagles, flag waving, patriot songs, telling the audience how they are the last hope for America, fear, etc etc. It's just so cliche.
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Re: No even ballpark close. Fox doesn't have real.
Jun 15, 2017, 9:29 AM
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Tucker.
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Tucker is a conservative obviously****
Jun 15, 2017, 9:36 AM
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Yes, I think he's a libertarian.
Jun 15, 2017, 3:50 PM
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He has some dem senators and reps on him show so they aren't all scrubs.
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Oculus Spirit [93667]
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Wheres tha speling natizi when hes kneeded.***
Jun 15, 2017, 9:27 AM
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Re: Fox finally giving up it's false advertising
Jun 15, 2017, 12:08 PM
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fair and balanced is accurate. Their mantra was to give more voice to a minority opinion on issues to bring it to the forefront of american political conscious.
Example, 97% of scientists agree that climate change is a problem and is caused my man. Fair an balanced made it a 50/50 issue instead of a 97/3 issue and gave the opposition a voice.
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Hey Flower, you gotta do better than that
Jun 18, 2017, 4:31 PM
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Spouting numbers from a biased group like Weatherbot and his ilk. Come up with the same numbers from the other side, then you win the argument.
Otherwise your wheel is turning, but we know your hamster is dead..
-PhD
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Re: Hey Flower, you gotta do better than that
Jun 18, 2017, 9:28 PM
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I just realized, you're not really a PhD.
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And yet they're actually becoming more fair.
Jun 15, 2017, 12:36 PM
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Iron knee.
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Harvard Study
Jun 15, 2017, 1:03 PM
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most balanced coverage of Trump
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That doesn't mean balanced.
Jun 15, 2017, 1:18 PM
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If you saw that same chart and it was about Charles Mason, would that mean balanced? That could mean that Fox isn't balanced at all. It could mean they are. That said, they aren't. They are the least objective.
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Since 'fair,' is a relative term it seems impossible...
Jun 15, 2017, 3:56 PM
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to decide if a news broadcast is fair. The study shows Fox the most balanced of the subjects of that particular study. Had you said 'Harvard is a liberal institution and I don't believe chit they say,' I'd be like, 'Me too.'
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That study doesn't show they are balanced.
Jun 15, 2017, 7:36 PM
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It shows they are protecting Trump. I see the whole world is out to get Trump even though he has been great. Fox is showing that even they have to criticize him. If the rest of those sources were in the middle Fox would have no criticism at all and they would be talking about putting him on Mount Rushmore already.
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Re: That study doesn't show they are balanced.
Jun 15, 2017, 9:42 PM
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Trump has been great for the rich 1%, so far. The GOP's changes to Obamacare will likely cost the GOP the House in 2018. Fox hasn't reported that 63% of the voters didn't want Obamacare to be repealed.
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Re: That study doesn't show they are balanced.
Jun 15, 2017, 9:45 PM
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Trump has been great for the rich 1%, so far. The GOP's changes to Obamacare will likely cost the GOP the House in 2018. Fox hasn't reported that 63% of the voters didn't want Obamacare to be repealed. Reporting that would have been fair and balanced; but the taxcut for the rich (that will come from the repeal of Obamacare) is what Fox has been slyly pushing-for (without stating).
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Re: Harvard Study
Jun 15, 2017, 9:22 PM
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That graph, doesn't say anything about Trump on it. His name isn't mentioned. It could be positive or negative Iraq coverage... or European salt marsh tit-mouse coverage.
It doesn't say Harvard on it either or name anyone who might have put it together.
It's actually just a graph that could mean anything.
Can you provide a link for that....context is everything.
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Re: link
Jun 16, 2017, 3:09 PM
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Thanks for the link. In context your original post was misleading by portraying Fox as 'more fair' as opposed to other outlets. One could argue that Fox has been overly generous because it has a conservative slant....that's quite different from fair. NBC is an example of the idea. They are far more critical, because they have liberal slant.
Given the study as a whole, the most salient point is the conclusion drawn:
"Have the mainstream media covered Trump in a fair and balanced way? That question cannot be answered definitively in the absence of an agreed-upon version of “reality” against which to compare Trump’s coverage. Any such assessment would also have to weigh the news media’s preference for the negative, a tendency in place long before Trump became president. Given that tendency, the fact that Trump has received more negative coverage than his predecessor is hardly surprising. The early days of his presidency have been marked by far more missteps and miss-hits, often self-inflicted, than any presidency in memory, perhaps ever."
Media is biased. MSNBC to the left, Fox to the right are the 2 extreme examples. Your original posit was misleading. Fox isn't more fair, they're just as biased as the others.
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