Football schools that win in basketball

Feb 28, 2017, 9:56 PM

I am searching for reference points against which to model success - Clemson success - in basketball. Let's call success Conference championships and NCAA bids for now.

If you go by conference and look at football schools, you might have this list:

ACC:. FSU, VT. Maybe Miami, GT.
SEC: All but KY, Vandy, MO
B1G:. OSU, MI, NEB, Penn State, maybe WI
B12:. Texas, OK, Maybe OSU, Baylor, TCU
P10: USC, Maybe Oregon
Ind: Notre Dame

So, do any schools have a winning tradituon in Basketball or is it tied to a coach here and there?

Notre Dame - 35 NCAA bids (KY has 55)
Texas - 33
Arkansas - 30 (wow, never knew this)
Oklahoma - 30
Ohio State - 27
Ok. State - 27 (what's up with the state of OK?)
Mich - 22
Wisc - 22
LSU - 21
Tenn - 20
Bama - 19
UF - 17
GaTech - 16
Oregon - 15
FSU - 14
Texas A&M - 13
Georgia - 10
Clemson - 10
South Carolina - 8 (clearly a goal should be to have more bids than this team)

Some claim that demographics is a huge key.
Who is more similar, than less?
Notre Dame, in Notre Dame - 5,000 or so
Oklahoma State, Stillwater - 46,000 or so
Arkansas, Fayetteville - 73,000 or so

So there we have one target: Notre Dame

What is thier basketball history exactly?
(I think the last 17 years may be a better measure than all years, but more there later).

They have never won it all.
Last final four was 1978
Final 8 last year

Mike Brey, the coach, is in 17th year. (Nice fit to recent relevance period). He has one ACC conf. Championship. 11 NCAA bids. And one Big East championship. 2011 coach of the year.

Brey was an assistant at Duke and head coach at Delaware before ND.

Digger Phelps was at ND for 20 years. He went to NCAA 15 times.

So those two coaches are 26 of 35 bids.

Which leads to this. Shocker alert!

The coach is what makes or breaks the deal.

A coach that can recruit and win at the school, and wants to stay once they are winning (unlike say Rick Barnes).

The good news is that if Coach BB gets bids for the next 10 years straight, he will only be one behind Brey at this point! Go Brad, you are in the game!

If the powers that be opt for a new chapter, let's hope they find Clemson's unique version of Mine Brey.

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lol Notre Dame is like the Unicorn of American Universities. It's uniqueness and history far outshine everyone else as a national brand and wouldn't exactly fit as a comparison for Clemson.

Just face it, historically compared to other ACC schools Clemson is second to last in overall winning % and a solid dead last for in conference winning %. We're not a major basketball school and NEVER have been. Honestly this talk of Conference Championships (plural) is almost as bad as the coots talking about NCG's. We are literally playing the best of the best in basketball. Our record against UNC is one of the worst in all of sports record books. Winning the ACC is basically like making a goal of being a final four team.

Can we be better? sure. We just improved facilities and Brad has his best recruiting class ever as freshmen. Lets see if he can build from there. Stop acting like we're just one Dabo away from consecutive finals appearances. We're not and if we did find a Dabo of basketball he would be hired to coach for UNC or Duke before we ever got to a final four.

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