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The biggest mistake people have today is blaming politics

Jan 6, 2021, 6:42 PM [ in reply to Blaming Democrats for Republican actions. ]

and parties for our problems. That's actually what the politicians WANT people to do, and it's because they have wholly failed us. BOTH parties. Think about it. Functionally, your daily life, was there any difference between Clinton, GWB, Obama, and Trump? Forget the rhetoric, look at results. Did Congress pass laws that we all (or most) agree with, that helped anything? Did anyone decrease our deficit/debt? Did either party end illegal immigration? Did any party bring back manufacturing jobs? Did any party address our trade deficit? Our financial collapse in 2008 was a wakeup call, soothed away with more of the same. Did....the list is endless, and the answer is NO.

This is far deeper a problem we have than most people realize. History will accurately record the problem one day. Why did Rome fall? What ended the Ottoman Empire? The British Empire? How did America become a success when France underwent a revolution at the very same time and ended up with the Committee of Public Safety? How could someone like Hitler come to power? How could the United States fall apart? The answers are never one political party or another. Or even the failure of one leader or another (in democracies anyway). The problems that cause democratic nations to fail are almost always structural in nature, and based on human nature interacting with a form of governance that is failing for some reason or another. It's not a party at fault. For democracies it's never the fault of a party or even a specific leader. It's a corruption of whatever system of governance has been established. And not by a leader or a party (in a democracy), but it's ultimately the fault of the people for allowing themselves to be led by bad people, in a system designed for moral leaders. Partly for allowing the problems to form and perpetuate, and partly for not recognizing the cause. We're guilty of both in the US. We give these leaders far more credit in our lives than we should. Certainly more than they deserve. Pelosi once famously skidded into a brilliant comment when she said "Elections shouldn't BE THIS IMPORTANT." And she's right. They shouldn't be, and I'd argue ARE NOT as important as we make them. As THEY make them out to be.

There has once been a President who is perhaps unlike any other in history in the US. A President who shifted the focus away from government and placed our excellence squarely on the shoulders of the guy who stares back at you in the mirror every morning. ONE PRESIDENT, in my lifetime anyway, and possibly ever, who actually spoke the truth and communicated that to the people. Not his truth, not a blame game, that wasn't it. But the truth that we fund our government. That $2,000 check we will now get, will come out of SOMEONE's paycheck, one day. They're buying their corruption and the corruption of our government with our very own money and labor. We see their promises as gifts, and credit them for that. Nothing is further from the truth. They're using our money to buy our votes. And with debt...well, that's PURE dependency. They're now underwriting an unsustainable debt, and promises, to perpetuate careers attached to the power of money control, with our very own sweat and labor. 20% of our labor, which is what federal revenues have been literally forever as a ratio to GDP, that 20% they take from us as a whole, is then redistributed in the form of a gift, or a promise. But that's not enough. So they double down and promise us even more gifts, again with our own labor. With debt, it's underwritten with our labor. That keeps the train moving along. Over time, they're still taking their 20% yearly out of our GDP. But they've also taken out over a full year's worth of our labor (GDP) in debt, that we also will have to repay someday. And the gig is up. We're in a mess, and they know it. So they ratchet up the blame game, and divide us, and that's all fine and dandy with pubs and dems in Congress. They don't care. As long as they're not blamed, they get reelected. It's a long cycle that's unwinding before our eyes as something we don't recognize. But history will, eventually.