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Draw your own conclusions...
Nov 27, 2012, 9:43 AM
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So, I'm sitting around scratching my head after last Saturday and I'm mulling over all the possibilities in my head. Are we that bad? Is South Carolina that good? Does the ACC really suck and is dragging us down? Do we really only recruit skill players? All of these type questions have been posed. I don't know what the answer is. I have my opinions as does everyone else and just like armpits, everyone has them and they all stink! What I could do was do a little digging. It seems that the NCAA keeps a database on all Major NCAA infractions. So I decided to look at the 'BCS' conferences and member schools. I wanted to see if there was any correlation to school / conference success and the number of major infractions over the last decade. Here is what I found.
ACC - 13% or 3 major infractions recorded
Big 10 - 17% or 4 major infractions recorded
Big 12 - 21% or 5 major infractions recorded
PAC 12 - 21% or 5 major infractions recorded
SEC - 29% or 7 major infractions recorded
Of all the BCS member schools only two had more than one major NCAA infraction recorded in the past decade. Those were Ohio State (went undefeated this year) and South Carolina. Conversely there were a handful of schools that have never had a major infraction recorded. Boston College is one of those and there are many that haven't had a major infraction in over twenty years. I'll let you guess which schools were the ones with few or none. Hint: Not the power house teams.
I found it interesting to say the least that the conference that everyone seems to believe is the strongest is also has the most infractions and the one deemed to be the weakest of all has the fewest infractions.
I don't know if this is just coinsidence or if there is more to this. I do know that the old adage of where there's smoke there's fire is usually true. You draw your own conclusions.
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SEC: "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't competin'"***
Nov 27, 2012, 9:44 AM
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Sure smells like that, doesn't it?!?***
Nov 27, 2012, 9:53 AM
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What...
Nov 27, 2012, 9:57 AM
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about Miami and North Carolina? Don't they each have more than 2?
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All-Pro [664]
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Not in the last decade.
Nov 27, 2012, 9:59 AM
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UNC may get another one next year on top of what they currently have. Again, these were MAJOR infractions recorded in the NCAA database over the last ten years as of yesterday.
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Freshman [7]
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so next
Nov 27, 2012, 10:07 AM
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Year NC and Miami get get hit again! I think both are in deep dodo!
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All-Pro [664]
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maybe***
Nov 27, 2012, 10:18 AM
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CU Medallion [55306]
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Re: conclusion
Nov 27, 2012, 10:23 AM
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Is that myself and 89% of Clemson fans wish that we could bolt to the sec yesterday. And that means that it doesn't matter how much dirty is in the sec. Most Clemson fans want's to be in there also.
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All-Pro [664]
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So you believe in the SEC mantra
Nov 27, 2012, 10:37 AM
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If ya aint cheatin' ya aint competin'. Is that what you're sayin'?
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Re: So you believe in the SEC mantra
Nov 27, 2012, 11:49 AM
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I think it is a matter of "if you ain't shinin' you're whinin'"
You got beat fair and square on Saturday. Quit being a baby about it.
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All-Pro [664]
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Two major infractions in a decade???? Just sayin'***
Nov 27, 2012, 12:20 PM
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SEC: Sowhat Everybody Cheats***
Nov 27, 2012, 10:52 AM
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Re: Draw your own conclusions...
Nov 27, 2012, 11:43 AM
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Are these NCAA stats for football only? Some conferences are larger and have more sport programs. The percentages you give, in my opinion, come from a very small pool of bad acts.
Sour grapes with bad logic.
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All-Pro [664]
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Yes, football only and BCS affiliated conferences only.
Nov 27, 2012, 12:23 PM
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And since we were discussing football success it seems appropriate to consider only football. Perhaps looking at all sports may change the picture. Bottom line, 7 major infractions in ten years is pretty #### close to one per year. Of course, these are only the ones where schools got caught. How many more go unreported and or those that get reported but the NCAA deems them minor or a non-issue due to their inability to gather the facts?
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These stats do not include latest UNC and Miami
Nov 27, 2012, 12:29 PM
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investigations which will change things a bit.
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All-Pro [664]
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It does include the 2012 infraction for UNC but
Nov 29, 2012, 1:32 PM
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not Miami as it has not been uploaded to the data base yet. I'm not even sure whether the NCAA has finalized their investigations or not for Miami.
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Orange Blooded [4896]
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Sounds like driving under 70 on I85
Nov 27, 2012, 12:40 PM
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It's the law but if you follow it to the letter you are likely to get run over and will definitely arrive later than your fellow travelers.
Since the penalty for going less than 10 miles over is rarely enforced and somewhat mild when it is almost everyone speeds.
You just have to be careful not to exceed the limit by too much.
By not enforcing or having weak penalties the NCAA is basically encouraging some cheating.
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Re: Draw your own conclusions...
Nov 27, 2012, 12:43 PM
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posts such as this are exhibits 5764 that a team is getting absolutely OWNED by its rival
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Pretty sure you are correct, and
Nov 29, 2012, 1:36 PM
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combined with the SEC history of "over signing," a significant advantage has emerged for their conference.
People can sugar coat it all they want, facts are facts.
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