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Legend [19352]
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Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 3:31 PM
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TIA
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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There might be a few peasants here and there....***
May 30, 2014, 3:31 PM
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Legend [19352]
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Re: There might be a few peasants here and there....***
May 30, 2014, 3:32 PM
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I am sure there is at least one whose name starts with an "a".
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Orange Blooded [2672]
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Yes
May 30, 2014, 3:32 PM
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Jack Leggett is.
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Orange Blooded [3788]
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Then I hope it's driving to another town***
May 30, 2014, 3:38 PM
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Orange Blooded [2672]
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Maine or Bust***
May 30, 2014, 7:30 PM
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"BRING OUT YA' DEAD!!"***
May 30, 2014, 3:33 PM
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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Also any assorted shrubbery***
May 30, 2014, 3:38 PM
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CU Medallion [61625]
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And, the witch who turned us into a newt.
May 30, 2014, 3:39 PM
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But, we didn't get better.
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CU Medallion [61625]
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NI!***
May 30, 2014, 5:13 PM
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110%er [6095]
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CU Guru [1893]
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No.
May 30, 2014, 3:40 PM
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I'm off the fence. Leggett must go. This is a national embarrassment.
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Legend [19352]
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 4:02 PM
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I wonder where my angry friend Armsb is
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Orange Blooded [4896]
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Love Clemson and love the team. Just a bad day.
May 30, 2014, 4:03 PM
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Clemson baseball will be back.
I do think that Jack has lost it (or more, he lost his assistants). We will never fire a HOF coach. I would really like to see him retire.
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Re: Love Clemson and love the team. Just a bad day.
May 30, 2014, 4:04 PM
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"A bad day" lol 1 championship in nearly two decades
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Re: Clemson will be back, but not with Jack at the helm***
May 30, 2014, 5:13 PM
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Agree but we cannot fire him or we will never get a good coach. Jack needs to retire - and with encouragement if he's not inclined to do so on his own.
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Re: Clemson will be back, but not with Jack at the helm***
May 30, 2014, 5:14 PM
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lol that is bull #### Clemson is a very good baseball job we will not struggle to find a replacement at all.
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not even fun to make fun of anymore***
May 30, 2014, 4:32 PM
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110%er [7182]
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 4:40 PM
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We're still here. I'll never jump from the Clemson wagon, regardless of the score, record, coach, players, cheerleaders, etc. We don't jump ship because of a game like this, or because the season didn't go as planned.
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 4:43 PM
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If you still support this man as the HC then you are NOT on a Clemson wagon.
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110%er [7182]
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 4:44 PM
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Please explain to me how I am not on the Clemson baseball wagon by supporting Jack.
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 4:47 PM
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One Championship in nearly two decades. You still support him you support mediocrity and losing.
That is not supporting Clemson.
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 4:53 PM
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0 championships in 11 years ('95 - '05). Did you support him then? Then you must have been supporting mediocrity as well.
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 4:58 PM
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I have been saying what I am saying for about a decade now.
He is insanely over rated. We have thrived on beating teams we out talent and we routinely lose to those when talent equalized. When hitting and pitching equalize it comes down to fundamentals (Coaching) and decisions. We have been awful on those things for a while now. That is why we rarely win Championships.
Those are the facts.
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110%er [7182]
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 5:10 PM
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"Insanely overrateed"...are you sure this is a fact or merely your opinion? I'm choosing the latter.
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 5:12 PM
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Yes people treat him like an elite coach. Elite coaches win Championships.
but gj ignoring my other points.
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 7:18 PM
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I will gladly agree with you, if you can provide statistics to back your claim, as well as the source for them. Yes, this year's fielding percentage is abysmal, I will acknowledge that. But show me the numbers for fielding percentage, batting percentage, on base percentage, sac bunt/fly numbers, steals per game, steal attempts per game, successful steals percentage, era for the usual pitchers (not the ones that throw 3 innings all season). I realize this is against all logic on this board, but entertain me nonetheless if you may.
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Legend [19352]
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 9:07 PM
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Fielding % Ranking Clemson National Champ Winner
03- 32 2
04- 114 17
05- 40 3
06- 22 8
07- 40 2
08- 107 52
09- 85 16
10- 133 13
11- 74 35
12- 40 93
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AVG- 69 16
National Title winners have been outside the top 25 in fielding twice in the last decade. When you get to Omaha hitting and pitching even out. It comes down to Defense and that comes down to fundamentals. We are NOT a good coached fundamental Baseball team. We haven't been in over a decade.
One Championship in 18 years should NOT be acceptable for Clemson Baseball.
Year Top 25 Non Top 25 Overall
2013 0-0 0-0 0-0
2012 7-15 28-13 35-28
2011 6-13 37-10 43-23
2010 16-11 29-14 45-25
2009 9-10 35-12 44-22
2008 3-14 28-13 31-27
Overall
% 39.4 71.6 61.3%
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110%er [7182]
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Re: Anyone left on the wagon?
May 30, 2014, 10:34 PM
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I'm not sur where you got the numbers, but some spacing, columns, or punctuation would help out greatly with trying to read whatever it is you typed. The fielding has not been as good as we would hope for, it hasn't been since the 90's. But in Omaha, it wasn't our fielding that eliminated us, it was a lack of hits at crucial times, from 1st round selections to number 9 hitters.
As for season records, according to your numbers (wherever you got them), the wins vs. top 25 and non-top 25, increased from '08 - '10, then decreased in '11 and '12. Total wins for the season did the same during that same time frame. That's 2 seasons. Throw in this year and it's 3. I'm not sure how this implies that Clemson baseball team has been in a decline for "a while now" as you put it.
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CU Guru [1893]
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I'll always support the Clemson team.
May 30, 2014, 5:13 PM
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But Leggett has to go. It was the same with Hatfield.
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