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Recruiting concern
May 18, 2014, 1:07 PM
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Guise, I am sirriusly concerned with the type of talent, or lack thereof, we are recruiting at DB. I mean, come on, 3 star prospects? UNRANKED prospects? I dont care what the coaches see or think, I KNOW that the peeps at E$PN are the ones with all the right facts and insight.
The bottom line is, recruiting stars are a foolproof measurement of future success on the football field. At this rate, we just aren't gonna get it done in the years to come. I see us missing out on bowl eligibility by 2015
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Re: Recruiting concern
May 18, 2014, 1:08 PM
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i sure hope this is an attempt at humor.
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Is the fact that you had to ask that question
May 18, 2014, 1:11 PM
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an attempt at humor as well?
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CU Medallion [56736]
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we won't need DBs with Watson and the Great Wall of Clemson
May 18, 2014, 3:07 PM
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that we are building with these OL recruits. We will just out score everyone.
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Re: Recruiting concern- you left out the word feeble
May 18, 2014, 5:16 PM
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Re: Recruiting concern
May 18, 2014, 1:14 PM
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LOL at OP, do you know anything about recruiting? Evaluate for a system and a fit. Foolproof? Lol...
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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^^^ found one.***
May 18, 2014, 1:15 PM
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Ring of Honor [26353]
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^^^Found another one***
May 18, 2014, 1:16 PM
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Maybe I should have saved this post for Surrrrius Thursday
May 18, 2014, 1:18 PM
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then people would take me surriusly
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Eggzackly
May 18, 2014, 1:20 PM
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Don't worry, you'll figure these things out eventually. The important thing is that you're trying
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Re: Eggzackly
May 18, 2014, 1:21 PM
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Do, or do not, there is no try
-CU2013
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Re: Eggzackly
May 18, 2014, 3:22 PM
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Don't be a try baby be a do baby.
-Marge Simpson
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The fish are really biting today!***
May 18, 2014, 1:29 PM
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most good anglers such as franc practice catch & release
May 18, 2014, 1:41 PM
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and would never count the coot as a game fish cause they're stupid & don't put up much of a fight.
still, i'd wet a line with you anytime.
no baptist
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RAed for german plagerism***
May 18, 2014, 1:33 PM
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All-TigerNet [14488]
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I don't plagerise Germans!
May 18, 2014, 1:37 PM
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Only Austrians and Hungarians
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Re: Recruiting concern
May 18, 2014, 2:52 PM
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Don't worry be happy!
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Re: Recruiting concern
May 18, 2014, 3:29 PM
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I'm more concerned that we're using ESPN & Rival's ranking systems. Clearly ESPN hates Clemson so I don't know why we're using their rankings anyway. And Rivals is always wrong, except when they rank one of our recruits highly. I think we should break off and let Swofford and the FFRF set up our own recruiting ranking system.
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I don't care who does the rankings
May 18, 2014, 4:20 PM
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as long as the prospects being signed by Clemson are 5 stars or more. We can never seem to sign enough 5 star guys. Xboxdawg usually signs between 15 and 20 5 star guys per class for UGA, so why can't we?
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^^ This guy shouldn't be allowed to post
May 18, 2014, 4:43 PM
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if it's not Thursday.
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This topic was really eating away at me inside
May 18, 2014, 5:21 PM
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I tried, but I just couldn't wait that long. SRY my head in advance
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Charlotte Recruiting Numbers
May 19, 2014, 8:43 AM
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Clemson football is a major brand name, especially across the South. As such, it’s no surprise that Clemson does so well pulling top rated recruits out of cities like Atlanta and Jacksonville. What draws lamentations though, is Clemson’s inability to do so in Charlotte, NC. Clemson’s campus is located a mere two hours from Charlotte, closer than any other school in a “Power Five” conference except Wake Forest and South Carolina. As such, many Clemson fans feel Clemson is missing a tremendous opportunity. How tremendous is that opportunity? We’ll focus on hard data from the 2009 to 2014 recruiting classes to find out.
4 & 5 Star Recruits from the Charlotte Metro
We look exclusively at these elite recruits because we can any college football program would be interested in the majority of them, given the average rating for even the best recruiting class is less than 4.00 (Alabama had the highest average star rating in 2012 at 3.92). As you can see in the table above, Charlotte has only produced 20 four or five-star college football recruits in the past six recruiting cycles. Therefore, even if a University were to dominate the area and get over 50% of the top recruits, it would only amount to about two recruits per cycle on average. Not exactly a tremendous opportunity, though nothing to ignore.
To further dig into the data, I broke the data by the recruit’s destination school (where they enrolled out of high school) and by graduating class. Below, in bold is the University with the number of four or five-star recruits from the Charlotte metro to the right. Below that, it is detailed out by the recruiting class. Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, and North Carolina were the only schools to pull multiple of these elite recruits to their program in this six year window. North Carolina did the best job, as you can see the highlighted seven, indicating they’ve pulled seven over this time span including three in 2009.
Destination of 4 & 5 Star Recruits from the Charlotte Metro
North Carolina pulled and impressive 35% (7/20) of the top recruits from the area. This is enough to make fans of other nearby schools shutter with envy. South Carolina and Clemson, both of which are closer to Charlotte than Chapel Hill and are more prominent football programs, combined to land only three recruits. Now to dig a little deeper, we look at each recruit by name, position, and star rating. The columns are (from left to right): destination school, Rivals 4* recruits, Rivals 5* recruits, and the sum of both.
4 & 5 Star Recruits from the Charlotte Metro
With all the detailed information now presented, we see that Germone Hopper is the lone elite recruit from this window who signed with Clemson University. He redshirted 2012 and didn’t make a big impact in 2013. He also missed part of Spring Camp due to academic issues. Although one could parse through and pick out “busts,” it is not a sound logical endeavor because it supposes that elite recruits from Charlotte are not as good as elite recruits from other places. With a sample of just 20 players, this is unfair conjecture. Furthermore it fails to consider that players from other cities may be more likely to go to schools with better coaching staffs. It is best to trust the expert evaluates and assume an unspecified four or five-star will more often than not be better than a lesser rated recruit.
The above table about also breaks out the star ratings to separate the four and five-star recruits. Of the four five-star recruits, three went to SEC schools. Again, this is a small sample size, but if you’re a Clemson fan you’d like to do better.
Overall, we see that Charlotte does not produce a tremendous amount of elite prospects on an annual basis. 3.33 per cycle was the average for the six year window inspected. That said, no one school has dominated the area, though Florida has pulled two of the four five-star prospects while North Carolina has pulled six of the 16 four-star prospects. Finally, we see Clemson has pulled just one elite recruit from the area, so while the opportunity may not be as huge as many have lamented, it is hard to deny the data which loudly proclaims that Clemson is not succeeding in pulling the elite college football recruits from the Charlotte metro area.
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