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Lot o points [179930]
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What's a rassist doing working in a hot dog joint...
Aug 14, 2017, 7:37 PM
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in Berkeley of all places? lol spittin and yerkin on people's weenies?
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Oculus Spirit [82752]
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Probably turning bitter from having to
Aug 14, 2017, 8:04 PM
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cook dogs for hippies and blacks.
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Hall of Famer [23994]
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Re: Protesters being outed on twitter
Aug 15, 2017, 9:04 AM
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Isn't it illegal to fire someone for something like that? Should he be protected under law? I don't agree with their actions/protest but that is no reason to fire someone from a job.
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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Thats the modern day answer for everything
Aug 15, 2017, 9:10 AM
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If you don't like someone, get him fired
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Rock Defender [52]
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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I've never been big for firing someone for non joperformance
Aug 15, 2017, 9:22 AM
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related issues.
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Rock Defender [52]
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But if their association with your business causes your
Aug 15, 2017, 9:23 AM
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business to take a dive in performance, should you tie the hands of the employer?
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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Do you think he should never be allowed to work again?
Aug 15, 2017, 9:27 AM
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What opinion might he have that warrants that? And who gets to judge that?
Should Prodigal be fired and shamed from his job because him being a Christian might be unpopular? What if he was, I dunno, Muslim? Or Wiccan?
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Rock Defender [52]
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He's allowed to work. He just has to find a job.***
Aug 15, 2017, 9:31 AM
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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he had one.***
Aug 15, 2017, 9:32 AM
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Rock Defender [52]
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And they didn't want him representing their company.
Aug 15, 2017, 9:33 AM
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So he needs to find a new one now.
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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At some point, I'm sure you have said something on here
Aug 15, 2017, 9:37 AM
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or probably Facebook (if you're into that), that your employer would consider something that he wouldn't agree with "representing his company". Should you have been fired for it?
This guy means nothing to me, but the popularity of firing people for basically nothing performance related has gone over the top, IMO. I'm not sure of the point. Is it for punishment? And when does that punishment end?
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Rock Defender [52]
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If continued employment of an employee causes your
Aug 15, 2017, 9:40 AM
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business to suffer, that seems performance related.
And keep in mind this is all for private sector jobs. Government workers wouldn't be fired and union shops would have to show just cause.
But if my hotdog stand is about to become ground zero for protests because of a neonazi a-hole I've got on payroll, he gone.
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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Why wouldn't a government worker be fired?
Aug 15, 2017, 9:44 AM
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And I'm not sure those whop have been fired due to twitter their, say outbursts that someone disagreed with would have caused their "business to suffer".
Most people aren't that important.
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Rock Defender [52]
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I've read that sentence about 6-7 times and am coming up
Aug 15, 2017, 9:46 AM
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blank.
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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Since I got rid of the ®, its difficult to correct my
Aug 15, 2017, 9:52 AM
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gibberish.
How about this: What was your opinion of our med student getting kicked out of school for talking about doing drugs in college? Deserved? Cool thing to do for the person who turned him in?
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Rock Defender [52]
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Of course it wasn't a cool thing to do. But again,
Aug 15, 2017, 9:59 AM
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admitting to past drug use is not the same as being a torch-wielding white supremacist whose association with your business could lead to economic ruin.
I understand the slippery-slope concerns. But employees do not have freedom of speech.
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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"employees do not have freedom of speech"
Aug 15, 2017, 10:05 AM
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That's an interesting thought.
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Rock Defender [52]
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Well they still have protections from the government,
Aug 15, 2017, 10:16 AM
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but not from an employer. This is just the free market at work.
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Re: Well they still have protections from the government,
Aug 15, 2017, 2:33 PM
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I would've been at least reprimanded, perhaps discharged, for engaging in such hoonanery while in the military, in uniform or not, is what I was told. And rightly so.
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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you are military property while enlisted
Aug 15, 2017, 3:16 PM
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and as such, conform to a different set of rules under the UCMJ.
But you knew that already.
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Re: I've never been big for firing someone for non joperformance
Aug 15, 2017, 9:24 AM
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Yes. How is this any different that firing someone for being gay, or muslim, or anything else for that matter. Just because you don't agree with someones beliefs is not good enough reason to fire someone.
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Rock Defender [52]
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Being gay or Muslim isn't the same as being a neonazi.
Aug 15, 2017, 9:28 AM
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That's how it's different.
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All-In [40656]
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In right to work states, you are able to fire someone for
Aug 15, 2017, 9:25 AM
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any reason.
Still wrong to fire someone for a political belief.
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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Actually, thats due to being in an "at will" state.
Aug 15, 2017, 9:29 AM
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"Right to work" is much more about being involved (or not) in labor unions.
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CU Guru [1482]
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Re: In right to work states, you are able to fire someone for
Aug 15, 2017, 2:36 PM
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> any reason. > > Still wrong to fire someone for a political belief.
Fuggin' up my business isn't a "belief".
I'm aghast that some would take umbrage at the firing of a Nazi. Do you think the taco stand needs to let the kiddie #### collector keep his job?
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All-In [40656]
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Big difference
Aug 15, 2017, 2:38 PM
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Kiddie #### is illegal my friend.
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CU Medallion [60046]
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with the new face recognition software, gonna be common
Aug 15, 2017, 9:10 AM
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to see this.
Wouldn't bother me if every one of those creeps got exposed and arrested, fired, fined for littering, whatever. ALL of them.
Maybe this is the future key to ending these waste-of-resource protests and destructive "peace" marches.
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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Thats an interesting thought.
Aug 15, 2017, 9:11 AM
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Who else might should be arrested for protesting?
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CU Medallion [60046]
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I don't make that call, but I said it wouldn't bother me
Aug 15, 2017, 9:31 AM
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if they identified and nailed a bunch of them for fighting, setting fires in the street, blocking traffic, and being public nuisances to businesses and the community.
But I say it as someone who has never "marched" in protest over anything. I have better things to do in life than hanging out with bitter, angry folks. Life's too short to spend it pissedoff at things that don't affect me whatsoever (like statues of dead people). If there was a giant statue of Satan himself next door to my house, I wouldn't care enough to spent the $3 to buy a can of spray paint to paint a moustache on him. Why does this crap bother people so much?
Take down all the statues, I don't care. And don't make any more of anybody, ever. Or leave them up. But while you're taking them down, make sure you get the gay tiger by Gate 1. That one is stupid looking.
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All-In [34054]
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Not awesome.***
Aug 15, 2017, 9:25 AM
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All-In [40656]
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Can you out the criminals in Durham last night?
Aug 15, 2017, 9:25 AM
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Would you find that as awesome?
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Re: Protesters being outed on twitter
Aug 15, 2017, 9:45 AM
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I never thought I'd see a day where people defend Nazis.
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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It's not about the Nazi's.
Aug 15, 2017, 9:59 AM
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I don't think anyone here agrees with that nor would participate in it.
The point is larger than that.
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All-In [40656]
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The point is defending free speech***
Aug 15, 2017, 11:12 AM
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Rock Defender [52]
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Which doesn't extend to the workplace.***
Aug 15, 2017, 11:13 AM
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All-In [40656]
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I never once said it did
Aug 15, 2017, 11:14 AM
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This thread was about defending nazis, I said why I wasn't defending nazis. Please read next time and stop with your robot responses.
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Rock Defender [52]
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Just pointing it out, since apparently it's not always clear
Aug 15, 2017, 11:18 AM
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what exactly the first amendment does.
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just hope they don't misidentify someone
Aug 15, 2017, 1:56 PM
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That could literally ruin an innocent person's life.
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Oculus Spirit [80667]
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I'm not sure the self appointed SJW's give a damm***
Aug 15, 2017, 3:12 PM
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CU Guru [1701]
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That's why the antifa thugs cover up
Aug 15, 2017, 2:44 PM
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of course the autistics on 4chan can still track them down.
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