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Anybody but Trump prevailed
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Anybody but Trump prevailed


Nov 7, 2020, 12:27 PM

I was born in ‘82 and believe this was my first one term president?

Now that’s it’s over, can we have a show of hands who think Biden will be done in 2 yrs and just voted because he wasn’t Trump? ??

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I will give him a chance...


Nov 7, 2020, 12:31 PM

if he can work across the aisle and be the unifier and calming influence that people are claiming, I will support him.

Starting off claiming a mandate and talking about how he is going to fix the economy that yesterday showed a continuation of it's rebound is not the way to unify.

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Re: I will give him a chance...


Nov 7, 2020, 12:33 PM

Yeah its weird to speak of mandates when more people voted for you than ever in the history of elections ...

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you're right...


Nov 7, 2020, 12:37 PM

50.6% of the popular vote for Biden.

Losing seats in the House and not flipping the Senate.

Sure seems like a mandate to me.

If he can get the seats in Georgia, maybe he might can try to claim that.

You can ignore the viewpoint of people you disagree with all you want, but the better message is the message he had on Tuesday-Thursday.

The unifying message is to acknowledge that the country is divided and he plans to unify it. Claiming a mandate means the people have overwhelmingly chosen his direction.

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Re: you're right...


Nov 7, 2020, 12:47 PM

not gonna get into a rabbit hole of back and fourth on what a would qualify as a mandate, but will say a few things here.
1. we go by electoral votes and this will be the largest margin in quite a while, while flipping 2 usual red states blue, as well as rebuilding the blue wall.
2. the counting is not complete. votes are still being counted all over the country.

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Re: you're right...


Nov 7, 2020, 12:50 PM



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that's fine...


Nov 7, 2020, 12:53 PM [ in reply to Re: you're right... ]

I'm not arguing about win or lose. I'm talking the definition of mandate.

I'm not arguing just to argue. I'm telling you when 49.4% of the people hear that he has a mandate when he lost seats in the House and didn't swing the Senate - most of them feel like their vote isn't being acknowledged. It is not a unifying message.

Take it from someone who doesn't share my bias.

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/SighJoe-this-isnt-what-the-word-mandate-means-28093713


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Re: that's fine...


Nov 7, 2020, 2:01 PM

I will agree with you on the senate part. However I think the people made it loud and clear Trump needs to go, call it what you will

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I agree they said Trump needs to go...


Nov 7, 2020, 2:07 PM

I'm not trying to be an ###.

I'm only saying it is not wise for Biden to say he has a mandate. He should continue to acknowledge that the country is divided and pledge to bring us together like he said during the campaign.

If he does that, although 49.4% of the country might be against him now, he can win over reasonable people.

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Re: you're right...


Nov 7, 2020, 3:58 PM [ in reply to you're right... ]

franc,

When it is over he will have more EC votes than Trump did in 2016. Will you allow for Biden exercising his "mandate" to the same extent that Trump did ??

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you should read my other posts about mandates...


Nov 7, 2020, 4:32 PM

it answers basic questions about leadership, mandates, and building consensus

306 is the same as what Trump got completely the exact same thing.

Trump had no mandate

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Re: you should read my other posts about mandates...


Nov 8, 2020, 12:12 AM

Trump received 304 and Clinton 227, as 7 faithless electors, 2 pledged to Trump and 5 to Clinton, voted for other candidates.

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Re: you're right...


Nov 7, 2020, 4:36 PM [ in reply to Re: you're right... ]



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Definitely give him a chance


Nov 7, 2020, 12:35 PM [ in reply to I will give him a chance... ]

I’ve mentioned it here before that Mrs Fluff and I have called it the Trump experiment

Policies seemed to do well, abrasive ness and everything else, not so much

Agreed that hopefully we can chill on the divide and get things done from both sides. I’m not optimistic, not because Biden, but because everyone else

He won, he’s our president elect and we see what happens

He either gets 8 yrs or just these 4, that’s how it works

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Re: I will give him a chance...


Nov 7, 2020, 1:22 PM [ in reply to I will give him a chance... ]

Unity comes from everybody, not 1 person. You will never see that in this country and you’d be naive to think that 1 person will unify all. It will always be a Us vs them country as long as you have “parties”. That has to be the dumbest creation in the history of the world!

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I agree with you...


Nov 7, 2020, 1:33 PM

we all choose our own attitudes.

But as a leader, if I am leading 11 people and I ask for opinions on a course of action and 6 choose one way and 5 choose the other, I will take it that I have to move cautiously forward, whichever direction we go.

I certainly would not consider it a mandate. The leader's job is to build consensus toward the direction they are going. If I claim we have a mandate, I alienate the 5 that chose the other direction.

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Re: I will give him a chance...


Nov 7, 2020, 4:01 PM [ in reply to Re: I will give him a chance... ]

Touch,

Are we all going to comne together and sing Kumbaya - no.

But I feel certain that President Biden will do way more to help us come together than Trump ever did. And I think that is a big reason that we the people elected him.

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Re: Anybody but Trump prevailed


Nov 7, 2020, 12:32 PM

its both for me. I think Joe will do well. BUT I said when they had the primary "vote blue no matter who"

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Bush Sr.***


Nov 7, 2020, 12:32 PM



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I love you people that keep me in line


Nov 7, 2020, 12:37 PM

Serious post is serious and not sarcastic

If I’m wrong, I wanna know, I don’t consider it a call out

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I love you people that keep me in line


Nov 7, 2020, 12:37 PM [ in reply to Bush Sr.*** ]

Serious post is serious and not sarcastic

If I’m wrong, I wanna know, I don’t consider it a call out

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Re: Anybody but Trump prevailed


Nov 7, 2020, 12:36 PM

I don't expect him to make it to two terms. Maybe not through one. And I don't have faith in a great presidency from him or Harris.

But Jesus, Trump had to go. For the sake of America.

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I like Joe and think he will do well, but this election


Nov 7, 2020, 12:38 PM

showed just how much people despised Donald Trump as president.

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First time I ever voted Dem in a presidential election


Nov 7, 2020, 12:42 PM

since I was a youngster and voted for the peanut farmer.

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yea, vote because you hate Trump


Nov 7, 2020, 12:52 PM [ in reply to I like Joe and think he will do well, but this election ]

You'll spend the rest of your life paying for it, literally. I guess you don't have a job, so it really doesn't matter to you.

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“poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”


hyperbole....


Nov 7, 2020, 1:12 PM

now that all the campaigning is done we can relax the rhetoric.

If the Democrats had flipped Congress, I might join you in the alarm.

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You seem stuck on this “must not have a job” thing


Nov 7, 2020, 1:17 PM [ in reply to yea, vote because you hate Trump ]

Everyone I know who voted for Biden has a job...very good jobs. Trump had to go...at ANY personal cost IMO. Now maybe the country can heal for a few years...if people like you will let it.

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Re: yea, vote because you hate Trump


Nov 7, 2020, 4:03 PM [ in reply to yea, vote because you hate Trump ]

cook,

Why do you feel the need to disparage everyone who does not think just like you ?

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he'll be dead before May***


Nov 7, 2020, 12:51 PM



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“poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”


This is how you get put on a list and not Santa's.***


Nov 7, 2020, 12:57 PM



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Sort of like ABC (anyone but Clinton) last time............


Nov 7, 2020, 1:35 PM

BTW I still hate her lol.

I don't think Biden will make it long unless they prop him up. Honestly I don't believe he is well.

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2 yrs and 1 day***


Nov 7, 2020, 5:06 PM



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