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A reminder: America is a centrist nation
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A reminder: America is a centrist nation


Aug 14, 2020, 12:42 PM

Just a friendly reminder from the fence-sitters: America is actually a centrist nation, not a right-or-left-leaning one.

We have fought wars against enemies from the extremes of either side of the spectrum...both in the last century.

North Korea - and the 800,000 Chinese "volunteers" who came surging across the border when we started whumping on the North Koreans - were Communists. The Viet Cong insurgents and uniformed NVA regulars we fought in Vietnam were Communists. At one point the Soviet Union had 55,000 tanks parked on the German border, and we did a 40+ year "cold war" with the Communist Bloc. As an aside, Stalin and Pol Pot, the head of the Khmer Rouge, were history's gold-and-bronze medal-winning genocides; Stalin was probably responsible for 30 million deaths in various purges, while Pot Pot killed at least two million. (Watch The Killing Fields if you want to see what Pol Pot's regime looked like, if you have the stomach for it.)

The Axis, on the other hand, was a coalition of imperial far-right powers. The Japanese Empire, the Fascists of Italy, and the Nazis were far-right. (Yes, despite the revisionist lies of fork-tongued Alt-Right propagandists who are, IMHO, committing borderline treason by messing with truth so flagrantly, the Nazis were indeed right-wing, probably the furthest-right nation that's ever existed. The fact that they called themselves "National Socialists" was a deliberately misleading name - after his first failed coup, Hitler spent some time in jail and threw a few populist riffs into his party's charter for the express purpose of better marketing his party to the working class. That doesn't make Hitler left-leaning...as Stalin found out the hard way when Hitler turned on him after Poland. The Nazi leaders were Nietzschean manipulators who regarded the common man as "rabble" - Nietzsche himself coined that term - and believed that the will to power was the hallmark of the true Aryan of the Master Race...and that the Slavs, like the Jews, were subhuman trash who needed to be killed, not Comrades in some kind of great struggle. Not exactly leftist sentiment, you know?)

It was more than a century ago, but the German Empire of 1914 we fought in World War I was also an authoritarian right-wing regime led by the "Kaiser" - the German emperor. They weren't as bad as the Nazis who followed but they were not a democratic government either. And Saddam Hussein was another right-wing dictator as well; his Baathists were similar to Mussolini's Fascists.

Again, the takeaway is that throughout its history, America has not gotten along with far-left Communists, or with far-right Fascists. You can be a villain at either end...and the trick with America has historically always been balance...and the ability to hear all sides. And also historically, the partisans of either extreme are dangerous fools.

So...just asking. Are you a partisan? Are you capable of hearing the other side and recognizing the value in their viewpoint?

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Good story, but if we're so CENTRIST then how do you


Aug 14, 2020, 12:45 PM

explain all the libtards?

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Re: Good story, but if we're so CENTRIST then how do you


Aug 14, 2020, 1:34 PM

lutz

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Re: A reminder: America is a centrist nation


Aug 14, 2020, 12:52 PM

The internet and 24 hour news ended all of the peaceful days. There will be too many extremists now. The days of the masses being centered rational people like olemike, smokepurpleliveorange, and Muira, are long gone. Now we are stuck with extreme nutcases like franc, FatherG, and Obed.

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Re: A reminder: America is a centrist nation


Aug 14, 2020, 1:18 PM



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Re: A reminder: America is a centrist nation


Aug 14, 2020, 1:29 PM

Long story short, you are a little nutty and have drank the koolaid. You will be like olemike within a year or two.

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Carl?


Aug 14, 2020, 1:33 PM



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Maybe so but keep in mind


Aug 14, 2020, 2:10 PM [ in reply to Re: A reminder: America is a centrist nation ]



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Odd that you voted Rubio, but now all-in on Trump


Aug 14, 2020, 2:54 PM

I understand supporting the Republican party. But Trumpism is a cult unlike anything I've experienced in a national party.

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Re: Maybe so but keep in mind


Aug 14, 2020, 3:06 PM [ in reply to Maybe so but keep in mind ]

I don't even like "my side". I would vote for the right Repub in a sec. Trump is the issue.

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So you’ll help us with the House and Senate?***


Aug 14, 2020, 3:10 PM



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I won't...


Aug 14, 2020, 3:11 PM

I don't like Joe Wilson or Lindsay Graham either.

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Re: I won't...


Aug 14, 2020, 3:15 PM



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Re: So you’ll help us with the House and Senate?***


Aug 14, 2020, 3:28 PM [ in reply to So you’ll help us with the House and Senate?*** ]

I go by candidates. I dont like Rick Scott. I havent even been paying attention though lately. I won't support anyone in Congress who supported Trump though.

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Who on the left wants compromise?


Aug 14, 2020, 1:41 PM [ in reply to Re: A reminder: America is a centrist nation ]

The Pub led senate agreed to give blue states 150 billion bucks and Pelosi held firm with 900 billion. They offered to meet in the middle on unemployment extensions giving 400 which is exactly in the middle of the previous offer of 200 and dems' 600 demand.

They held Americans hostage and prevented a compromise rather than relieving some of the stress and pain caused by the Chinese Communist Government.

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Re: Who on the left wants compromise?


Aug 14, 2020, 1:49 PM

Since it's all Pelosi's fault, I would ask this of you:

Does Mitch McConnell have any sort of track record of willing bipartisanship, or has he gleefully embraced his nickname of the "Grim Reaper"?

Does Trump's administration have any kind of track record of bipartisanship and graciousness, or has one of the hallmarks of his administration been his propensity for manufacturing conflict and melodrama? And does Trump have a history of negotiating in good faith?

Mind, I'm not asking about "rightness" or "wrongness" of positions - but do McConnell and Trump compromise and work across the aisle like, say, Reagan was so famous for doing?

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The offers are on the table.***


Aug 14, 2020, 3:03 PM



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The money is going to all states who need it,


Aug 14, 2020, 2:11 PM [ in reply to Who on the left wants compromise? ]

not just blue states.

The $100 of the $400 must come from the states (see above).

And the Pub led senate is really not negotiating, the White House is. And the Republican majority Senate doesn't even have the Republican votes to pass any plan.

I'm only making points and not arguing for or against any items. I was against the stimulus payments that went to everyone in the Spring as I argued that money should have been used to target where it was most needed.

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when dems win it’s a referendum


Aug 14, 2020, 2:20 PM [ in reply to Re: A reminder: America is a centrist nation ]

When pubs win its systemic racism

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Re: A reminder: America is a centrist nation


Aug 14, 2020, 2:12 PM



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Yes, Quozzel is believable as a moderate and


Aug 14, 2020, 2:18 PM



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Re: Yes, Quozzel is believable as a moderate and


Aug 14, 2020, 2:22 PM

Well, we've already established I'm more conservative than you in regards to economics, spending, big government, etc. But you can believe what you want about me. Guess I better go turn in my guns.

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Dude you talk a big game but yet you argue


Aug 14, 2020, 2:26 PM



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Re: Dude you talk a big game but yet you argue


Aug 14, 2020, 2:50 PM

I tend to side against ridiculousness and insanity, such as claiming liberals were responsible for the NC kid's murder and that all liberals should face violent retribution for it.

You know, crazy #### like that. I also side against the insanity that is Trumpism, to which you subscribe, and Trumpism isn't conservative.

So I see how you would misinterpret that as liberal. You and others like you here embrace insanity and think anyone who doesn't agree with you is liberal. Like that olemike clown. He actually thinks Flow is a liberal simply for disagreeing with him.

You are also extremely triggered today. Go run in the sprinkler or something.

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You just made a four paragraph post


Aug 14, 2020, 2:54 PM



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Re: You just made a four paragraph post


Aug 14, 2020, 2:57 PM

Hey, I cuss a lot. What do you want me to say?

Maybe you should go complain to the mods about it all while saying your own swear words.

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can’t read all this now. My business


Aug 14, 2020, 2:18 PM

Is getting looted

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Everybody thinks they are centrist except Berniebros...


Aug 14, 2020, 3:28 PM

and the KKK/skinheads.

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