The Athletic has summarized it as succinctly as possible:
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The Athletic has summarized it as succinctly as possible:
Jan 2, 2023, 8:54 AM
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"Tennessee celebrated a milestone victory in Friday night’s Orange Bowl, reaching 11 wins for the first time since 2001, but Clemson’s embarrassing performance should be a wake-up call for Dabo Swinney. While 11 wins and an ACC championship is nothing to sneeze at, the Tigers took pride in beating the likes of Ohio State (three times), Alabama (twice), Oklahoma (twice) and Georgia from 2013-19. Dating to the 2019 CFP championship against LSU, the Tigers have lost five of their last six against SEC foes and Ohio State. Swinney’s insular approach to staff hires and refusal to take transfers has caused them to regress."
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Re: The Athletic has summarized it as succinctly as possible:
Jan 2, 2023, 8:57 AM
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I can't say their reasons are the cause but regressed and not as good is certainly on point
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Well… we already knew two things about “the athletic” …
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Jan 2, 2023, 8:58 AM
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1. Their “writers” can’t stand Dabo 2. They get their material from reading message boards.
So this little article is no surprise. And I’ll never understand why anyone pays a subscription to read their worthless drivel.
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Re: Well… we already knew two things about “the athletic” …
Jan 2, 2023, 9:00 AM
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The offensive and defensive numbers don't lie my man. We were not in the top 25 in scoring offense or defense. Let that sink in for a minute. We have two to 3 future first round defensive players, play in the ACC and we are not in the top 25 in scoring defense. That should tell you something right there.
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Re: Well… we already knew two things about “the athletic” …
Jan 2, 2023, 9:02 AM
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Yeah, not going to reject the analysis because I don't like who's giving it.
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Re: Well… we already knew two things about “the athletic” …
Jan 2, 2023, 9:27 AM
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The truth is hard to digest for some people. We are clearly in a downward trend. On the skids? No, but clearly trending downward based on performance.
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Re: Well… we already knew two things about “the athletic” …
Jan 2, 2023, 10:50 AM
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Yep, and unless someone puts both hands on the steering wheel and starts to pull, that downward skid will continue.
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You people are hilarious.***
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Jan 2, 2023, 11:10 AM
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Game Day Hero [4388]
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Re: You people are hilarious.***
Jan 3, 2023, 9:58 AM
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Row
Are you arguing that the 2021 and 2022 teams were as good as the teams from 2015 - 2020 ??
Or are you arguing that if we just keep doing what we are doing, that things will miraculously get better ??
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Re: Well… we already knew two things about “the athletic” …
Jan 2, 2023, 5:59 PM
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Stop it! Regardless of who wrote it, those are the facts. We are what our record says we are. Lost 5 of 6 to SEC!! Can't beat a true blueblood! You guys are in crazy denial. Dabo's stubbornness is taking us back in time!!
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NO! YOU STOP!!!***
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Jan 2, 2023, 6:37 PM
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Re: Well… we already knew two things about “the athletic” …
Jan 3, 2023, 10:28 AM
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2. They get their material from reading message boards.
They've must have spent a bunch of time on tigernet, because that all I've read on here since the loss to SC...
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Re: The Athletic has summarized it as succinctly as possible:
Jan 2, 2023, 9:17 AM
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While disappointing to read those stats, I don't think there is anything shocking there. Everyone knows we are not where we were. There should be at least 2 teams on our regular season schedule next year who will be preseason top 10 (FSU, ND). They're not SEC schools but wins over those schools would elevate us again in the national conversation. On the other hand, losing 1 or both probably reinforces the narrative we are slipping and hurts recruiting.
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Re: The Athletic has summarized it as succinctly as possible:
Jan 2, 2023, 11:16 AM
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He also forgot we beat ND twice during that time. Is there any other team that has ever had a run like that against Bama, GA, Ocry0 St and ND? Honestly I’m not sure how anyone could have expected that type of unprecedented success against those teams to continue. It was a historic run. Unfortunately historic runs by definition don’t continue for forever.
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We're 1 for 3 vs them since the LSU Title game***
Jan 2, 2023, 4:32 PM
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Re: The Athletic has summarized it as succinctly as possible:
Jan 2, 2023, 6:51 PM
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Not a great team this year, but a great program that is considered a blue blood by most. The OP was referring to 2013- 2019 not this year. OK was worse than ND this year IMO and they were included in the initial comment.
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2019 National Championship & 2020 CFP Games are
Jan 2, 2023, 3:02 PM
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evidence of decline?
That is an odd way of looking at being one of the 3 or 4 best teams in the country. It also suggests the author feels he needs to embellish his point to make it stronger.
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They’re absolutely right!***
Jan 2, 2023, 5:05 PM
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Hall of Famer [22987]
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Watching the bowls and playoffs so far, I can easily rattle
Jan 2, 2023, 5:25 PM
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off about 10 teams that would probably smoke our nuts if we played today. No we don't suck, but we are no longer elite.
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Re: The Athletic has summarized it as succinctly as possible:
Jan 2, 2023, 5:48 PM
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It’s true and the Dabo cultists can’t stand it. Changes have to be made
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