Re: TNET: Clemson guard enters transfer portal

Something up his sleeve?

The Brownell detractors have expressed more concern about the players’ actual interests in this thread that at any other time this year (by my reckoning).

Too bad it’s all artificial because it’s couched in the context of how bad it must be to play for an unpopular coach.

Some thoughts:
1) Grownups can consider multiple thoughts and feelings at the same time. Al-Amir Dawes is a grownup. He can love Coach Brownell and yet still consider playing for Coach Holloway to be an incomparable opportunity.

2) Coach Brownell is responsible for his roster, and he will be responsible for the results of his roster management next year. Losing experienced players doesn’t bode well, but Coach B doesn’t deserve to be fired any more today than he did last week. I’m not trying to shut anyone up—this is the only time of year that I fully support having this conversation. Just that losing another player doesn’t change our record for 22-23: it’s still 0-0.

3) Graham Neff isn’t Dan Radokovich. If the letters they sent out sound identical, don’t be confused. It was DRad who failed to follow up as promised, not Neff. Give Neff the benefit of the doubt until the end of the next season, and support your coach in the meantime.

4) Seriously: the Clemson Tigers are the players, not the disappointing coaches, admin or loud mouthed fans. Some of you suddenly care about the players—who are otherwise anonymous to you—only when you can use their decisions to show up Brownell. Don’t use these young men as your tools because you can’t make a convincing case on your own.

It’s looking like another tough year ahead, but Hubert Davis showed that a team can blow a 25-point lead and still be a championship contender. Who knew?

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Apr 9, 2022, 12:43 AM

Wow, you don't read with much comprehension, do you?

Obviously your response is a face-saving device rather than a thoughtful response, so let me make this easy for you.

A) I specified in my earlier comment that following the season is when good, loyal fans appropriately discuss whether or not we are in favor of keeping the coach. For years Tiger fans have gone straight to "Fire Brownell!" at the first moment of frustration during the season. That is diminishing to any fan base. Clemson fans largely are classy individuals, so the amount of frustration expressed is only a fraction of what is felt. I get that.

But it's classless to do that when team support can still make a difference, and even worse to browbeat fans who refuse to agree--during the season.

Yes, I'm taking cheap shots at the classless ones who take cheap shots at the rest of us if we don't bail on the team and coach mid-season.

2) "good mediocrity" follows the rules and keeps Clemson's reputation where its administration has prioritized over the last quarter century. Apparently you are too young and inexperienced to remember what it was like to be presumed to be cheating just because you won--with a history of chronic cheating.

The NCAA has become a toothless tiger, but let Clemson get caught cheating again and the world will find out how much authority they still have, because they will throw the book at chronic cheaters who aren't afforded the same protection as the blue bloods.

And even though we all know Dabo runs a clean program, only 4 years ago we had 20% of tested players test positive for a banned substance just before a national championship game. Other people haven't forgotten.

"Bad mediocrity" gets you the same results you're getting now but without the class. With NCAA investigations. With poor graduation rates. With players getting in trouble and not representing the Clemson brand favorably. Without Coach K congratulating your team or coach for their sportsmanship even if it's done with condescension. With players quitting or leaving en masse rather than as individuals (that's a French term, so you'll need to look it up.)

3) I didn't "out" anything. I told you I'm not an alum, so it's not my IPTAY money that Neff is counting on. But chances are fair that I've spent more on Clemson tickets, and yelled more at games, than you have.

I specified "your team" because apparently you are one of the Neanderthals who believes that your team--and your attitude toward it--are a reflection of who you are. They don't have a right to be whatever they really are, nor do you have any obligation to help them become successful. You just expect excellence because you're you.

If you're such a "not weak" Clemson man, and you are personally offended by the mediocre basketball coach, are you doing anything about it besides complaining on a message board?

Because, to me, that's the epitome of "being weak."

You can pretend to be superior to me, but you're all talk no action. Please grow up, Clemson man, before you have kids that you demand excellence from without doing anything to help them produce it.

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