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TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 3:07 PM
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Nice move by his atty
Mar 31, 2021, 3:18 PM
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While I do understand the reasons for “victim anonymity” having people sign their names on one side of the discussion vs omit names on the other makes a point in the court of public opinion one would think
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Or...
Mar 31, 2021, 3:22 PM
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They were paid off already
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Re: Or...
Mar 31, 2021, 3:25 PM
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Quite possible
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Re: Nice move by his atty
Mar 31, 2021, 3:30 PM
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Yeah it’s just 22 people coming forward. That’s A LOT. There’s something to it. Lessons learned. Correct the issues. Be better. No one is perfect.
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Yeah no way there are 22 gold digging
Mar 31, 2021, 11:21 PM
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liars in the world. ??
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Re: Nice move by his atty
Mar 31, 2021, 3:30 PM
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Yeah it’s just 22 people coming forward. That’s A LOT. There’s something to it. Lessons learned. Correct the issues. Be better. No one is perfect.
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Re: Nice move by his atty
Apr 1, 2021, 11:11 AM
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40 Therapist, and I am sure there are more... He was asking for trouble, he needed some advice from the Texans, not phone numbers! I learned a long time ago, to never be in a room alone with the door closed, with a female. It is a real risk for any man, no matter what happens (nothing), you are guilty. Always have more people in the room, or don't have the meeting! Same with massage therapist.
He has to learn he is a target. He needs to find a portable electronic device that he can carry around like chiropractors use. Forget the LADIES, because half of them are looking for the 'happy ending' that comes with a cash bonus. When he just gets a massage, they leave upset with less CASH $$$. They are probably the ones suing, looking for money $$$. Obviously, he is learning an expensive lesson. I have not seen ONE accuser mention a forced sex act, other than 'feeling' intimidated?? That is why there are no criminal charges (yet).
You can see why the nut-job in Atlanta shot up the massage spas, they made him crazy (he should be executed). DW4 needs to wise up, stay away from high risk situations!
His chances of getting traded are gone now..... This may last for years in civil court. The accusers and their lawyer have no reason to give up until they get paid (may last years). I believe DW4, a good person.
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Re: Nice move by his atty
Apr 1, 2021, 3:46 PM
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I believe the Texans have something to do with this whole situation....I mean DW4 asks to be traded then all of a sudden there's all these accusations.....I'll believe that when me ##### turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert
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Re: Nice move by his atty
Apr 1, 2021, 3:46 PM
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I believe the Texans have something to do with this whole situation....I mean DW4 asks to be traded then all of a sudden there's all these accusations.....I'll believe that when me ##### turns purple and smells like rainbow sherbert
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I can’t explain why a pro athlete
Mar 31, 2021, 3:33 PM
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Would go to a massage parlor for treatment with the millions of dollars available to them. If it were me and I was truly concerned about my physical health and condition I assure you I would have the best therapist money can buy on my payroll. Certainly not some Asian lady (ladies) who I didn’t know.
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You've obviously never gotten a massage...
Mar 31, 2021, 8:53 PM
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from "those asian ladies." Educate yourself.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 3:29 PM
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I don’t recall Clemson playing football in Houston. Did I read that correctly?
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 4:02 PM
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I don’t recall Clemson playing football in Houston. Did I read that correctly?
Maybe talking about Clemson's trip to the cotton bowl in 18..
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 4:27 PM
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Had to be that. One of his “therapist” probably lives in Dallas.
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Great move by his attny.***
Mar 31, 2021, 3:31 PM
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 3:36 PM
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I guess that massages are a VERY regular procedure for athletes. He certainly did get a lot of them. I'm surprised that the team doesn't have a staff of masseuses. Also, why so many different masseuses? If I found one that I was comfortable with, I'd use them on a regular basis. Kind of like the girl that cuts my hair. I like what she does. She knows what I want, and the price is acceptable. Why would I go to every person in the local phonebook? I'm sure that we haven't heard all of it yet.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 3:43 PM
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This gets worse instead of better for DW. No way would I allow my attorney to “find” 18 ladies I had used for therapy. These 18 plus the 21 others adds up to an addiction,
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That's a strong diagnosis to make...
Mar 31, 2021, 4:01 PM
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I know that some men enjoy the company and touch of a woman but don't want to have to deal with the dating rituals; just have the physical enjoyment without the emotional attachment. DWatson could afford it on a level that most can't, but that doesn't make it an addiction... I know a guy that didn't want to be tied into the emotions, just wanted to hang out have fun and enjoy the benefits of rendezvous, but few women could get on or even wanted to be on that same page with him. So he spent a lot of time chasing... and enjoyed it because he was always upfront and honest about his motivations and expectations.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 5:39 PM
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Lmao. An addiction? Not really. I have a business remodeling. At 50. And ive had back surgery. Im at a chiropracter every other week and with the massage therapist, whos at the same office, alot. They change, frequently. Cant tell you how many times ive had ##### rubbed on me, hands hitting certain areas and my face in her crotch. "Go ahead, fuzzball, laugh it up." It happens. If its professional, you ignore it and keep going. Cant tell you how many times ive just fallen asleep during that hour.
This release will definitley jeopordize the ambulance chaser. It puts these other women in the light of not knowing how to handle a situation or $$$.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 5:42 PM
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B o o b s. Just to make it clear.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Apr 1, 2021, 6:42 AM
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I've never had a massage, but I think now might be the time to see what this is all about.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 6:30 PM
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Have you thought about how much traveling Deshaun has done in the last few years? Just for away games you're talking what 24 to 32 road trips. That's not counting personal travel during the season and off season. I can see 40 different massage therapists. Not saying he's guilty or innocent but your argument doesn't hold his towel.
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if i got beat up as bad as Dw4 and had his money
Apr 2, 2021, 1:28 PM
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I would probably get one every other day, maybe more. He got sacked a ton, he got a punctured lung.
I have a lot of back and neck pain just from playing high school football.
The "when there's smoke there's fire" group is quick to convict before a trial. I will hold out on making any snap judgements.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 8:40 PM
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But you attend the same office. These girls are from 3 states and if he has had 40 or more in the last year that is a lot of change not including the ones he may have used at the training facility for Houston. I hope it goes away for him and his career recovers but this is a fetish or addiction for Watson like it or not.
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Do you know what an away game is?***
Mar 31, 2021, 8:57 PM
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 9:15 PM
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Apparently, you have no idea what constant pain is. I can tell you, you do whatever it takes, within certain boundaries, to alleviate it. Have you seen DW playing recently? Hes on his butt more often than a toll collector. Hes on the road and he has to find someone. This is also over several years. Therapist has a lot of competition and they dont make much money unless theyre good. Over a 3 year period, i can absolutely see hin going to 20+ different therspists. And by the way, so far, only the 18 on the post are his confirmed therapists. DW is still INNOCENT until proven guilty.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 6:24 PM
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I unfortunately agree. Still hope Deshaun is innocent, but this doesn't look good to me personally. We're talking like 40 masseuses have now come out of the woodwork, half on one side, half on the other. It's really weird to me. I still think he probably didn't do anything rising to a tort level, but it does seem like he really, really like massages from girls, and might use the chance to hit on them.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Apr 1, 2021, 10:35 AM
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No, it doesn’t make it worse for Deshaun, and it is ridiculous to call it an “addiction.” In case you haven’t realized, the man does not sit at a desk all day. He is a professional athlete and he needs to take great strides to take care of his body. Getting massages from professionals is an important part of that. I’m starting to think this is a case of a bunch of freeloaders jumping onboard a bandwagon being driven by a scumbag of an attorney.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Apr 1, 2021, 10:35 AM
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No, it doesn’t make it worse for Deshaun, and it is ridiculous to call it an “addiction.” In case you haven’t realized, the man does not sit at a desk all day. He is a professional athlete and he needs to take great strides to take care of his body. Getting massages from professionals is an important part of that. I’m starting to think this is a case of a bunch of freeloaders jumping onboard a bandwagon being driven by a scumbag of an attorney.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Apr 1, 2021, 10:35 AM
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No, it doesn’t make it worse for Deshaun, and it is ridiculous to call it an “addiction.” In case you haven’t realized, the man does not sit at a desk all day. He is a professional athlete and he needs to take great strides to take care of his body. Getting massages from professionals is an important part of that. I’m starting to think this is a case of a bunch of freeloaders jumping onboard a bandwagon being driven by a scumbag of an attorney.
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DW4 has more masseuses than I have facebook friends.***
Mar 31, 2021, 3:41 PM
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Ok.. Now the NAMES of the "ladies" that are filing the lawsuits..
Mar 31, 2021, 4:01 PM
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And I use the word ladies loosely..
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I don't have time to read all of that material. Are any of t
Mar 31, 2021, 4:04 PM
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the massage therapists giving groin or hamstring therapy men?
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Re: I don't have time to read all of that material. Are any of t
Apr 1, 2021, 10:09 AM
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Yes probably about half of them specifically mention groin and many others mention adductors, which are in the same area.
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Pics?***
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 4:36 PM
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So the next question would be, why does an NFL player with access to practically unlimited team resources, have over 40 (and counting) different masseuses over just a couple of year time frame? You'd think he would find a couple he liked and stick with them, right?
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 4:41 PM
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I think the word most often used is fetish,
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 4:50 PM
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Or, maybe he didn’t want one to think he had other motivations so he spread the wealth around.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 6:25 PM
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Occam's razor bro.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 5:46 PM
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They come and go. Alot. They find out that its not as lucrative as they thought. And i mean in the most professional way. Hes also in a lot of different towns. You try to stay on a schedule, but its not always possible. If you look back, DW has been refered to many of these therapists by other NFL players
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 7:14 PM
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One of the therapists mentioned that athletes frequently have 2 or more massages a week so maybe they don't want to wait in line in the locker room, behind a hundred other guys waiting their turn for a team therapist to get the massage they need. Also I think every one of these women said they frequently work with athletes so it must be common to use non team therapists so they can set their own appointments.
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As a skeptic, these 18 seemed to have been coached
Mar 31, 2021, 6:01 PM
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To say the same things. Just as ambulance-chaser Buzbee has had his clients coached in a similar fashion. 90% of Attorneys are a scourge on society
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 6:55 PM
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This will be a long process and there will be statement after statement on both sides. There were 2 very important words used in the report today, "Professional" and "Licensed". I doubt those words will be heard from the other side and that is clearly the issue. A big question that comes out of today's report is why does anyone need 18 different massage therapists?
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 8:29 PM
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This actually makes him look worse. Because if 20+ are complaining and this is 18 supporting him how many more are silent, pro or con. Why is an athlete using 50+ different women for massages?
It’s just a very very bad luck and even if he didn’t technically do anything wrong it’s incredibly incredibly stupid judgment on his part!
I think the celebrity and the fame went to his head and like Tiger Woods you get intoxicated on chasing women and you see this with athletes celebrities actors anyone that becomes famous that found that fame very quickly rather than having been around at their entire lives.
And the sad thing is he can go to any bar or strip club and pick up all the women he wanted. Plus he has a smoking hot girlfriend. Well, he did. If she is still around I would be surprised, but then Money talks.
I’m a big believer in innocent until proven guilty. And I also know that a lot of people love to go after people with money or fame. But I’m also an intelligent mature person that knows when there’s this much smoke, there’s a bit of fire somewhere!
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Apr 1, 2021, 7:46 AM
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So you think a bar or a strip club is the best place to meet a woman? I do not know whether DW is guilty or not but I do know most of the comments on this thread are from people with perverted minds.....
I think it looks bad that the 21 or 22 people have law suits against him. I also think it helps his cause that 18 people have said hey I never had that experience a s they signed their names while the ones suing did not sign theirs. I also have an issue with people , other than children. Who wait for years before they bring allegations. If someone did something to me I am reporting it as soon as possible, I would have my daughter do the same thing and file criminal charges first not demand a settlement. Finally the reasoning the plaintiffs attorney gives for not filing criminal charges is pathetic and laughable, that helps DW in my sight! Now again I have no idea whether He’s guilty or not except for at this point He is not even charged!
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Apr 1, 2021, 10:43 AM
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Your post says that you believe in “innocent until proven guilty” and then you proceed to say that you think he’s probably guilty based on nothing more than the words of a bunch of people who stand to get rich off of a lawsuit. Wow
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 8:35 PM
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Again I believe an innocent until proven guilty, but it is hilarious and in some ways painful to read the people on here using pretzel logic to rationalize and justify the insanely stupid and poor judgment of Watson going to these type of places and women for massages. You don’t really go to those kind of places for massages. I’m sorry you just don’t. You go to professional places. You go to a chiropractor. You go to a place that presents itself professionally. Not the sleazy little strip mall massage parlors. Anyone that believes this is 100% above board is either willfully ignorant, dumb, or incredibly naïve.
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Who said they were sleazy strip malls?
Mar 31, 2021, 8:42 PM
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Some of the testimonies mentioned how these women were used to giving pro athletes massages.
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if i have watson type money
Mar 31, 2021, 9:17 PM
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im hiring the one that feels comfortable with me and i feel comfortable with as my full time..and i even offer to pay extra if they will fly on road trips with me..and even offer to fly out a family member or spouse of theirs if it makes them feel that much comfortable..dude clearly has a fetish
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Wait so the score is 21-18 now?
Mar 31, 2021, 10:49 PM
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Mar 31, 2021, 11:10 PM
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This guy online put together a timeline and details of the accusations against Watson if you want to read
https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/md9av6/_/
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Apr 1, 2021, 4:30 AM
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I got a few massages when I was in the Army overseas.
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Apr 1, 2021, 4:32 AM
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Whatever, he is cool with me either way.
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Maybe we should get a show of hands from MT's around the
Apr 1, 2021, 6:37 PM
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area that HAVEN'T had an encounter with Deshaun? Might be a shorter list?
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Re: TNET: 18 massage therapist release statements supporting Deshaun Watson
Apr 2, 2021, 12:54 PM
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how many message therapists does one guy need?
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