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Orange Blooded [3459]
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Heisman Award is nothing but the best QB award
Dec 14, 2019, 1:43 PM
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In the last 23 years 21 times a QB has won the award, The other 2 were running backs. I guess these are the only players that can be game changers.
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110%er [7224]
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Re: Heisman Award is nothing but the best QB award
Dec 14, 2019, 1:53 PM
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“Best” QB? Not really...
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Legend [16637]
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Best QB in September***
Dec 14, 2019, 1:56 PM
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All-TigerNet [13070]
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Burrow was the best QB in September, October,
Dec 14, 2019, 8:26 PM
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November, and the first week of December.
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All-TigerNet [11934]
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All those in guys will be in CFP playoff, and yet the award
Dec 14, 2019, 2:07 PM
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will not include anything happening there when they are actually face-to-face.
And more to the point, it will not include the player who has been the best in the second half of the season and who will also face those other guys in the CFP.
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Rock Defender [54]
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Re: All those in guys will be in CFP playoff, and yet the award
Dec 14, 2019, 3:54 PM
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I love Trevor and wouldn't trade him for anyone, but has he been objectively better the last half of the season than Burrow? Here are the stats for the last 6 games.
Trevor Lawrence - 75.5% completions, 1638 yards (273 yards a game), 20 touchdowns, 0 interceptions (adding 220 yards on the ground and 2 touchdowns) - In those games, he played three bowl eligible teams, Boston College, Wake, UVA. Only UVA is ranked and has the highest ranked defense at #40.
Joe Burrow - 76.4% completions, 2231 yards (372 yards a game), 19 touchdowns, 2 interceptions (adding 195 yards on the ground and 1 touchdown) - In those games, he played four bowl eligible teams, but those teams include Auburn, Alabama, A&M, and Georgia. All four are top 25 defenses statistically.
I'd take Trevor over Burrow, because I think he has some intangibles. But Burrow has been more accurate and had 100 more yards a game against significantly better teams in the second half of the season. I don't know how much is him and how much is the scheme, but what he's done has been pretty incredible. I think Burrow did earn the Heisman this year (at least if we treat it like the offensive award it is, since I think Chase Young and Simmons have been incredible). Trevor probably did earn an invite to New York though, certainly more than Jalen Hurts.
I'm more angry about Etienne not winning the Doak (not even a finalist), despite being clearly the best back in the country.
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Athletic Dir [887]
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Re: Heisman Award is nothing but the best QB award
Dec 14, 2019, 2:31 PM
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If that were true, DW4 would have one it!
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Orange Blooded [4821]
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Two Heisman winners have won
Dec 14, 2019, 2:48 PM
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Super Bowls.
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110%er [7589]
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Re: Heisman Award is nothing but the best QB award
Dec 14, 2021, 5:33 AM
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Has nothing to do with best QB.....should be renamed the ESPN award because that is what it has become......Go Tigers !!!!
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Orange Blooded [2723]
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Re: Heisman Award is nothing but the best QB award
Dec 14, 2019, 9:28 PM
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Oh good lord.
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All-Pro [685]
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Re: Heisman Award is nothing but the best QB award
Dec 14, 2019, 3:00 PM
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Heisman no longer has the luster it used to.Too many voters who have no clue as to why they are voting a certain way.Candidates who deserves consideration are never considered.
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Orange Blooded [4903]
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best QB
Dec 14, 2019, 3:50 PM
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promoted by ESPN.
They sold the narrative that Trevor was off to a bad start and largely ignored the rest of the season allowing that narrative to stand.
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All-In [27366]
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Funny. I thought it was "not the best QB or RB" award***
Dec 14, 2019, 3:52 PM
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Orange Blooded [4036]
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Re: Heisman Award is nothing but the best QB award
Dec 14, 2019, 3:57 PM
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Ron Swanson:
“I still think awards are stupid. But they’d be less stupid if they went to the right person.”
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110%er [6568]
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Re: Heisman Award is nothing but the best QB award
Dec 14, 2019, 6:26 PM
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Its a joke.
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Orange Blooded [2926]
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Our QB, RBs, WRs, OL and DL havent lost a game in 2 years, but none are mentioned
Dec 14, 2019, 6:29 PM
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Shame
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Oculus Spirit [94382]
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It's been about the second or third best the last few years.
Dec 14, 2019, 7:37 PM
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See DW's and TL's National Championship rings and reevaluate who is the best.
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Orange Blooded [2926]
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??***
Dec 14, 2019, 8:18 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83310]
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Best QB Award for 75% of the season. Weird it gets so much
Dec 14, 2019, 8:24 PM
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hype.
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Legend [16343]
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media : we arent disrespecing clemson dabo is stupid...
Dec 14, 2019, 8:51 PM
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meanwhile every team is represented at the heisman show tonight except for clemson.
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