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Clemson Conqueror [11401]
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like you said, "rag"...I just ignore crap like that
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Jan 24, 2023, 4:22 PM
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hopefully NBC doesn't give in to any outside pressure.
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Orange Blooded [2562]
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Re: like you said, "rag"...I just ignore crap like that
Jan 25, 2023, 12:36 PM
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Seriously have hope for that? NBC is a leading left wing agency. And anything with Oberman related, OMG !!
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Clemson Icon [24945]
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Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 24, 2023, 4:28 PM
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And, the attacks are getting stronger and more blatant every day.
One of my duties, as a Christian, is to try and prepare my fellow Christians for the persecution that is coming. I'm probably old enough where I won't see the same kind of persecution that Christians in other parts of the world (ME, Africa, China, etc.) are facing. But, as I tell my Bible Study class (Senior adults), "I probably won't live to see it, but your children and grandchildren probably will. They need to understand and be prepared."
Our culture is not pro-Christian. It is not even neutral on Christianity. We live in an anti-Christian culture (and getting moreso every day).
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I agree 100%.***
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Jan 24, 2023, 4:30 PM
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Re: Is this pardody? Give me a break.***
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Jan 24, 2023, 4:40 PM
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Sadly, no
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 24, 2023, 4:36 PM
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And, the attacks are getting stronger and more blatant every day.
One of my duties, as a Christian, is to try and prepare my fellow Christians for the persecution that is coming. I'm probably old enough where I won't see the same kind of persecution that Christians in other parts of the world (ME, Africa, China, etc.) are facing. But, as I tell my Bible Study class (Senior adults), "I probably won't live to see it, but your children and grandchildren probably will. They need to understand and be prepared."
Our culture is not pro-Christian. It is not even neutral on Christianity. We live in an anti-Christian culture (and getting moreso every day).
Truth!
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Game Changer [1725]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 24, 2023, 4:47 PM
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If you want to live in a part of the world where religion is able to effect how everyone lives then you should move to the middle east.
Otherwise, Separation of Church and State. Freedom of Religion also means Freedom from Religion.
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 24, 2023, 5:01 PM
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Freedom of Religion also means Freedom from Religion.
LOL, it most certainly does not.
I suppose you think having gay rights means everyone else has the right to be spared having gayness shoved in their faces then.
Deal?
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Game Changer [1725]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 24, 2023, 5:10 PM
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No, gay rights mean that people who want to get married can get married, be on their spouses health insurance, and things like that.
Change the channel if it bothers you?
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CU Guru [1513]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 24, 2023, 5:39 PM
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You also have to believe in male pregnancy, and that an #### is a sex organ.
Mayor Pete even breast feeds……
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Game Changer [1725]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 24, 2023, 6:57 PM
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you don't "have" to believe in anything. You just shouldn't be a judgmental ### hole. You know how many pregnant men i see on a daily basis? Zero. It's smhucks like Tucker Carlson and Laura Ingraham that make people think its something sweeping the nation.
“Judge not, and you will not be judged; condemn not, and you will not be condemned; forgive, and you will be forgiven; Matthew 7:1-29
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All-In [11003]
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Too bad the libs don't abide by that!***
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Jan 24, 2023, 9:17 PM
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Game Day Hero [4388]
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Re: Too bad the libs don't abide by that!***
Jan 25, 2023, 11:35 AM
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sam,
examples ??
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Very interesting you chose Matthew 7:1-29, and point out
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Jan 25, 2023, 8:48 AM
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one of the most misapplied scripture. Did you miss these verses in that same section?
15“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. 16 You will know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes from thornbushes or figs from thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, nor can a bad tree bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Therefore by their fruits you will know them." - Matthew 7:15-20
What does that say? It says, you CAN recognize a person's action and judge their "fruit", i.e. their actions. You CAN recognize their bad motives. Contrary to what society says, there are moral absolutes. And, I choose not to support people who go against the moral absolutes.
Does this mean I am supposed to condemn (judge) them? No, I can't condemn anyone to an eternal sentence. It does mean that I can lovingly tell them of their errant ways when compared to that moral absolute. If they choose to seek further understanding, great. I will tell them about the forgiveness that comes through Jesus Christ. If they choose to ignore it, they are responsible for their continued bad actions and the subsequent consequences.
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Game Day Hero [4388]
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Re: Very interesting you chose Matthew 7:1-29, and point out
Jan 25, 2023, 11:39 AM
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1989 said
Does this mean I am supposed to condemn (judge) them? No, I can't condemn anyone to an eternal sentence. It does mean that I can lovingly tell them of their errant ways when compared to that moral absolute.
1989, Do we not have the same prerogative ? To tell you that you are mistaken. That you are taking the wrong path towards the betterment of human society ? We don't condemn you any eternal sentence. We just tell your of your errant ways. The only difference is that we have some evidence to indicate that we are correct.
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Orange Immortal [65533]
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Yes, you have the prerogative to tell me I am wrong.
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:53 AM
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But, I know what I believe, I know why I believe it, and I know what I have experienced as a result of the truth. I know that I am better as a result of what I believe. Likewise, I have the right (prerogative) to not believe you. I am prepared for my beliefs and the resulting consequences. I know that this world will hate me. It hates Jesus Christ and His message. (John 15:18-25)
Just be sure that if you are correct, you are prepared for the consequences.
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Game Day Hero [4388]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:34 AM
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You don't have to "believe" anything that you don't want to. But you have to grant the other people on this planet that same right. If they want to believe things that you don't - they have THAT right.
How does that restrict your rights.
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Of course. “Change the channel.” But Christians should not
Jan 25, 2023, 12:14 AM
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be allowed to feature any aspect of their faith in public. And any public figures that do so should be destroyed.
because Love is Love. ? ?️? ❤️ ? ?? ? ? ? ?️⚧️ ??
Love wins.
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Game Day Hero [4388]
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Re: Of course. “Change the channel.” But Christians should not
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:44 AM
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swimmer,
No one is talking about destroying Tony Dungy. They are suggesting that his reactionary points of view might not represent the NFL very well - and that perhaps they should part ways with him.
Being a public broadcaster relies, in large part, on remaining popular with the audience. Dungy's ill-considered ramblings are becoming increasingly unpopular with a growing part of that audience. He is not unpopular because he is a christian. He is becoming unpopular for his political and social views.
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CU Guru [1987]
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Re: Of course. “Change the channel.” But Christians should not
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Jan 25, 2023, 1:29 PM
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But if Dungy were to praise BLM and dissing the flag he would be labeled as a social hero.
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Game Day Hero [4388]
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Re: Of course. “Change the channel.” But Christians should not
Jan 25, 2023, 6:06 PM
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don,
I don't believe that is true. BUT, if it was, it would be because those positions resonated with a large part of his audience. This is what is involved in trying to make a TV program popular.
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CU Guru [1876]
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Jan 24, 2023, 7:10 PM
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It’s quite simple really, the government doesn’t marry anyone. You are spot on that there should be equal protection under the law and rights such as healthcare benefits, life insurance, etc should be extended to all. For those that marriage is important, it’s also pretty clear what that definition is and who is ordained to perform that sacrament. By the way it’s not the county clerk from the left or right. If marriage is important and man and woman should go to church and be married in Gods eyes, others that it isn’t important too should go to the courthouse and have your union. Simple solution.
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Game Changer [2031]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 25, 2023, 9:10 AM
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Sorry, dude, but it’s on every channel. My wife watches, but I’ve quit. I read mostly to get away from liberals like you.
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:31 AM
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swimmer,
You have the right to push your christianity in our faces all you want, even though doing so makes you quite the ########. Lots of christians have been doing so for centuries.
What you do Not have the right to do is force your christian mythology on us through ANY of the offices of the government (including schools & universities).
What you do not have the right to do is to promote your christian mythology without pushback from the rest of the secular world. This is what is sop upsetting to christians nowadays. They have been so used to dominating the conversation without question or challenge, that now, when people challenge their position they scream persecution.
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
Jan 31, 2023, 8:21 AM
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Christian Mythology? Please give examples of how this is myth?
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 24, 2023, 7:24 PM
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Separation of church and state also means the state cannot prevent anyone from practicing their religion. This situation has nothing to do with Church and State. This is about a publicly owned company minimizing their exposure when a public facing employee expresses an unpopular opinion. They have every right afforded to them by the law to fire or retain him.
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CU Guru [1564]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
Jan 24, 2023, 10:25 PM
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publicly owned company...like PBS?
While you cannot have your own facts I suppose you can spout off your own opinion.
Look you're another angry individual that can only tell right from wrong when it touches you directly. Pipe down, relax, take a look around and see if you can figure out why you're so angry.
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 25, 2023, 12:10 AM
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Did any of that sound angry to you?
If it did, you should probably pipe down, relax, look around and figure out why you are projecting.
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Clemson Conqueror [11401]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 25, 2023, 8:18 AM
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Yes, it quite literally is. You are allowed to practice your religion but you aren't allowed to control someone else's life.
If your religion says you can't get abortions, smoke weed, get tattoos, or gay married....don't do those things and I am happy to support that for you. Doesn't mean your bible gets to say others can't.
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 25, 2023, 9:12 AM
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Now it’s becoming clearer why some of you attack Dabo and everything he does. Liberals would be hilarious if you weren’t so pathetic
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:47 AM
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I find it hilarious that you can think you understand liberals when you have already admitted that you don't ever listen to them.
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
Jan 25, 2023, 1:14 PM
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Liberals are like women, nobody understands them. However, the only thing I admitted to was that I don’t watch TV much anymore because of you
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
Jan 25, 2023, 6:33 PM
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I understand liberals. It's leftists that are the hypocrites. They claim liberalism, but are in fact totalitarian against any view that opposes their agenda.
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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Jan 25, 2023, 6:09 PM
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Why not ? If you are free to choose ANY religion, why am I not free to choose NONE ??
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Clemson Conqueror [11401]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
Jan 31, 2023, 10:21 AM
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Who suggested that you are not free to choose none? Certainly not me.
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CU Guru [1564]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
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that may br the most misinformed statement I've seen on this board. Sadly it is accompanied by an arrogance and vitriol whi h leaves one to assume the poster will remain ignorant fir the rest of his life - and drag others with him. However, take heed, for it is written, " arrogance is unbecoming a fool."
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Re: Separation of church and state was a ruling by a
Jan 25, 2023, 12:43 AM
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What do you mean exactly?
It’s in the first amendment. I suppose you could say it wasn’t in the first draft of the constitution. But the bill of rights were added almost immediately to assuage the fear of federal authority.
Maybe you just mean the modern legal precedent?
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Clemson Icon [24945]
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Separation of church and state is not....
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Jan 25, 2023, 11:04 AM
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...expicitly mentioned in the first amendment.
Some folks need to do soem research and read the opinion given by SCOTUS in the case before them where they stated that there is a separation of church and state.
Most folks are surprised at the ruling in the case. I certainly was when I researched it several years ago.
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Re: Separation of church and state is not....
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Bret,
The Constitution is only four pages long. In order to continue to discern what the Founders intended in this brief document, scholars often research other writings by the Founders. Several of them indicate in their other writings of the time, that they indeed did intend to create separate spheres of influence for church & state. Please remember that many of their families came here because that wall had been violated in England - to deleterious affect.
The actual term "a wall of separation between church and state" was written by Thomas Jefferson in a letter to the Danbury Baptist Association. BTW, the Baptist minister who responded to this letter affirmed that his position on the matter coincided with Jefferson's
The fact is that most of the attendees to the Constitutional Convention were christians, but they deliberately left religion out of the Constitution. The young America was a nation of christians who purposely avoided creating a christian nation. They were committed to the idea that EVERYONE has the right to their own beliefs without ANY government interference or support.
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Re: Separation of church and state is not....
Jan 25, 2023, 6:43 PM
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I think you should research the practices of the founders.
Bible was text book on public schools. Prayer in Public schools. Church in the Rotunda every Sunday Congress was in session. All sessions of Congress and Supreme court opened by prayer.
Where is that wall you claim they observed.?
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Orange Blooded [2073]
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Jan 25, 2023, 12:34 PM
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You were utterly and completely wrong. Freedom of religion assures Americans they can practice whatever religion they choose to do so.
Freedom from religion? What does that even mean? If you choose not to practice a religion, fine, nobody is forcing you to. But the government cannot impinge upon a citizens constitutional right to practice their own religion.
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Orange Blooded [2073]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
Jan 25, 2023, 12:34 PM
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You were utterly and completely wrong. Freedom of religion assures Americans they can practice whatever religion they choose to do so.
Freedom from religion? What does that even mean? If you choose not to practice a religion, fine, nobody is forcing you to. But the government cannot impinge upon a citizens constitutional right to practice their own religion.
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Orange Beast [6210]
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
Jan 25, 2023, 3:20 PM
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Do you complain about Islam, Buddhism, etc. etc. or just Christianity? It is also very obvious that you exercised freedom from religion a long time.
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Re: Christianity is under attack in America.
Jan 25, 2023, 6:25 PM
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That is what you want it to mean but it does not mean that at all. The same founders who supposedly separated religion and state, had prayer and the Bible as text in their public schools, opened all sessions of Congress with prayer, had church services in the rotunda every Sunday Congress was in session, and the list goes on.
An activist court misused Jeffersons letter to the Danbury Baptists to build a wall that was never intended. If you want to know what the founders meant in COTUS, look at their actions.
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