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Oculus Spirit [91882]
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Hey Dems..Bill O'Reilly says 2024 election will be between
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Apr 21, 2023, 11:30 PM
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Biden (if he runs) and the Grocery store (prices)!
Example, my Daughter who is a Liberal DEM told me this morn that chicken is more expensive than steak and that a $7.95 bag of coffee is now $19.
Yep, people don't like sky high prices on their food.
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It should be, or at least it should be Biden running on his
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Apr 22, 2023, 12:36 AM
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record vs. the vision and corrrective, restorative policies of an electable Republican. Instead, if Trump gets the nomination (and I expect he will), it will be 2020 all over again in the sense that Trump is so widely and bitterly despised that more than enough people will be motivated to vote against him and hand the victory to Biden once again. I think Dems are counting on that, and Trump is in denial about it, and Pubs either don't get it or are skeered to do anything about it.
Anybody who doesn't want 4 more years of Biden needs to make sure Trump doesn't get the nomination.
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I agree, but what can the Republican Party do about it?
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Apr 22, 2023, 1:04 AM
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They can’t keep Trump from running. They can try to gang up on him, but that won’t phase his base from rallying around him.
And if he gets mad at the Republican Party and runs third party, it will be Ross Perot all over again and Biden will definitely win.
I agree with you that Biden beats Trump regardless. I just don’t know what can be done to stop Trump other than convicting him of crimes and making him ineligible.
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Re: I agree, but what can the Republican Party do about it?
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Apr 22, 2023, 2:38 AM
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Ooh ooh I know!
They can be actual republican, not what the party has turned into. Pubs can speak out against the decisive rhetoric of dumb donald… you know like so many of them did, then didn’t and maybe sorta did until they reversed.
It’s funny (not haha funny, but ridiculous funny), that pubs like St Ronnie, Pappie, W and Darth Cheney, would be run out of todays pub party
It’s doubtful that’ll happen to the detriment of the gop
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I don’t think the Trump wing of the Republican Party wants to hear it.
Apr 22, 2023, 8:24 AM
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They will say that his detractors aren’t “real Republicans” and call them RINOs.
People speaking out against Trump won’t change their minds.
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Re: It would behoove the GOP and benefit America
Apr 23, 2023, 2:26 PM
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Who are you speaking about?
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All-TigerNet [13386]
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What in Gods name are you talking about?
Apr 22, 2023, 12:46 PM
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bammy?
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Re: What in Gods name are you talking about?
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All-TigerNet [11305]
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Lord, that’s the 2nd dumbest chit I’ve heard this week.***
Apr 22, 2023, 3:49 PM
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Rock Defender [54]
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I agree
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Apr 22, 2023, 4:48 PM
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NICE setup... How quick they forget.***
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Apr 23, 2023, 1:37 PM
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All the Republican Party can do is be honest about Trump and
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Apr 22, 2023, 9:50 AM
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take a stand, without apology, and focus on what they can do for the country if elected. That doesn't guarantee a win, but it gives them the best chance possible, and turns the corner for going forward.
To me, it's like this: There may not be a Ferrari or Lamborghini to choose from, at least so far, from all potential candidates on either side. In fact, between Biden and Trump, we are stuck choosing between a 76 Ford Pinto and a 82 Cadillac Cimarron. I think we'd be better off choosing a more recent model, like a Toyota 4-Runner, Chevy Suburban, or even a BMW or Mercedes sedan, all of which are available from the Republican party.
I think the Republican party needs to face that they can't/won't win with Trump, grow some nads, and move forward now rather than later.
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Re: All the Republican Party can do is be honest about Trump and
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Apr 23, 2023, 11:44 AM
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The Republican Party has long wanted Trump to disappear from the political scene.
American voters among those who were previously Democrats, Republicans, and Independents, on the other hand, see Trump as the only candidate who is not beholden to the political establishment.
That Trump gets chased to the ends of the earth based on accusations of collusion hoaxes, political power abuse (the Ukraine / Biden / Col. Vindman thing), the conflated Alvin Bragg indictment … this proves the point that Trump’s only real crimes (those that distinguish him from other politicians) is that the political establishment hates him.
Ironically, the more that the political establishment hates him, the more popular he becomes.
This, my friend, is why Trump remains both credible and popular among voters.
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Unfortunately, Trump’s popularity won’t matter on Election Day.
As Mark Twain had once said: If voting were that important, they wouldn’t let us do it.
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Very good synopsis... The anti-Uniparty candidate. Let's "war".
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Apr 23, 2023, 1:41 PM
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DOD's lack of accountability fills a whole bunch of pockets.
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Normally you want a good "crop"
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Apr 22, 2023, 11:19 AM
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To broaden appeal and make for healthy competition. But in these extraordinary circumstances, it's more in their existential interest to put the "Trump Era" to bed.
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For starters...
Apr 24, 2023, 8:04 AM
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They can get behind the movement to put the imbecile in prison and stop defending him at every turn.
Because at this rate, the only way he's not going to be the nominee is if he's behind bars.
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He was, and then he showed his true colors.
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Apr 22, 2023, 8:28 AM
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It was clear toward the end that he was about himself more than the country.
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All-TigerNet [12065]
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His country was doing pretty well.
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Apr 22, 2023, 8:35 AM
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Peace in the middle east, oil glut, low inflation, Russia in its own borders, Isis decimated, DOJ and other gubmint corruption exposed, RINOs exposed, NATO called out for freeloading (essential to the security of the US), effort to expose Biden Ukraine corruption, etc.
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Re: His country was doing pretty well.
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Apr 22, 2023, 8:41 AM
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"RINOs exposed" LOL. The craziest of the right-wing GOP think they are the ones who define RINOs. The days of Ronald Reagan's Big Tent GOP are long gone.
Peace in the middle east? Are you forgetting our occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq? Don't forget his cow-towing to the Saudis after they murdered a Washington Post journalist.
He tried to destabilize NATO - thank goodness that he's gone and NATO is growing, making the Western democracies more secure.
You want to give him credit for Clemson's national championship while you are at it?
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All-TigerNet [12065]
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And he wasn't
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Apr 22, 2023, 8:45 AM
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sold out to China.
And the border was nearly under control, and would have been if the left and RINOs hadn't stopped the wall.
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Re: His country was doing pretty well.
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Apr 22, 2023, 9:14 AM
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Oh please. You'd hate Reagan with the heat of a thousand suns if he were a politician today.
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Re: His country was doing pretty well.
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Apr 22, 2023, 1:40 PM
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Re: His country was doing pretty well.
Apr 23, 2023, 4:00 PM
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The echo chamber says NATO is stronger.
The echo chamber says tranny M-Fs don't get boner$ seeing women naked in the locker room.
...see how that works
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USA foreign policy … Biden style
Apr 23, 2023, 9:47 PM
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Incredibly … despite last year’s fears from the non-USA NATO members about Russian aggression, Biden … even with that backdrop … wouldn’t put the heat on those European NATO members to pay their full share of the costs.
Biden was scared that the European NATO members would say bad things about him … just as they had done with Trump after Trump pressured European NATO members to pa up.
Yes, Trump didn’t care if the EU brats called him names. Trump pushed the deadbeats to pay up, but in 2017 the EU NATO members wer not scared, so they told Trump to F-off.
Chicken isht Biden held all the cards, but didn’t play them. EU NATO members go on getting off free … at USA’s expense.
This, ladies and gentlemen, is but one example of USA foreign policy, Biden style.
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It was doing pretty well, and if he'd kept his mouth shut,
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accepted defeat gracefully, and campaigned on his accomlishments and the conditions under his presidencey vs. those under his successor, he'd probably win in a landslide next time. However, he chose to engage in a narcisisstic barrage of lies, delusions, and deceptions, which further and more deeply polarized the country, energized his opposition, and ruined any chance he had going forward.
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I think there is a better than even chance
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Apr 22, 2023, 1:22 PM
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the election was stolen.
That is a significant reason to complain.
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Re: I think there is a better than even chance
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CU Medallion [58814]
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Of course there are always dishonest, self-serving people
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Apr 22, 2023, 2:06 PM
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involved at almost every level of political elections. Some are downright devious crooks. That is nothing new, and I'm sure it was present big-time in 2020. It's still a leap from there to claim the election was outright stolen. The whole Dominion thing was a joke that was gobbled up by gullible fools and cottam fuktards.
Trump lost because so many people hated his guts, and were motivated enough to get out and vote to make sure he did not get reelected. He was too arrogant to realize that and govern and campaign accordingly. He lost and his ego couldn't accept it, so the only possible explanation was Dominion and people stealing and hiding ballots and producing bogus ballots and so on and so on.
So here we are, and the bad guys are going to win again, because the most important thing is to stand with Trump no matter what.
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I read the article.
Apr 23, 2023, 1:11 PM
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It describes errors made when reprogramming election machines after one of 3 candidates dropped out. The error was caught and addressed, with no mention of fraud.
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Re: I read the article.
Apr 23, 2023, 9:59 PM
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The fraud takes place when no one investigates.
Election officials chose to investigate the DeKalb County, GA election problem associated with the county commissioner race.
GA election officials didn’t want to investigate seriously for the 2020 elections.
Just like DoJ didn’t want to allow the defense council of prominent J6 ‘insurrectionist’ Jacob Chansley (the horns goof ball) access to the exculpatory evidence of ‘withheld because of National Security reasons’ security footage of Mr. Chansley walking and talking with easy and comfortable security staff inside the Capitol Building during the J6 riot.
As we all know, after being exposed for criminally incarcerating a person who would have been scot-free had the exculpatory evidence been made available to Chansley’s defense team, Mr. Chansley was miraculously released in short order under the guise-like excuse of ‘good behavior.’
(*). Investigations into vote counting fraud were not emphasized; investigations leading to wrongful prosecution of ‘election deniers’ was vigorous.
This is obvious.
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There is no doubt that dems and Trump's political enemies
Apr 24, 2023, 9:18 AM
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have exploited the opportunity for everything they can, with objective truth-seeking not a high priority. It's a partisan (having a couple of Trump-hating pubs on there did not make it "bipartisan" in any way, LOL!) political attack in every sense of the word, and I don't defend it for a second.
Having said that, I don't know that the video of horned-guy walking around with the cops in the capitol would have gotten him off at all. Bottom line, he should not have been in there, and cops were dealing with a very chaotic, crazy situation that they were totally unprepared for, and I blame that much on Pelosi and whoever else was in charge of capitol security.
Those are separate issues from vote fraud. Just because I disagree with Dems and their political and ideological positions and motives, even in light of what I believe is a high degree of hyper-partisan dishonesty, it doesn't mean there must have been voter fraud. I remain unconvinced that any significant fraud occured.
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Re: Of course there are always dishonest, self-serving people
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Your belief that Trump is hated by so many as to give Joe Biden 81 million votes in the election qualifies you as a gullible person in my book. If I'm wrong then you're at least a coward who has found a way to live with yourself while you acquiesce to the Criminal Cartel that runs the US. Trump is the messenger bringing bad news that few want to accept. The left is trying to kill him, politically and may have already done it.
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Anyone who doesn't understand...
Apr 24, 2023, 8:09 AM
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Trump lost because so many people hated his guts, and were motivated enough to get out and vote to make sure he did not get reelected. He was too arrogant to realize that and govern and campaign accordingly. He lost and his ego couldn't accept it, so the only possible explanation was Dominion and people stealing and hiding ballots and producing bogus ballots and so on and so on.
That this statement is the reality continues to live in a (probably unhealthy) fantasy land.
At this point, anyone who DOESN'T realize this and continues to push the conspiracy shouldn't be taken seriously in anything. Ever. Like I don't even want restaurant recommendations from them.
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There is zero chance there was
Apr 24, 2023, 8:05 AM
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And it's already been proven.
Those of you who continue to push these conspiracy theories chase away the crucial independent votes that you need because THEY were the ones who decided 2020.
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He certainly was - that's why I voted for him a second time.
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He lost me with his election denial BS, and the way he has acted since. He's no longer good for America.
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Re: He certainly was - that's why I voted for him a second time.
Apr 22, 2023, 11:28 PM
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It may come down to Biden vs. Trump.
You’ll be feeling a lot less kind towards Biden by the end of this year.
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I don't feel kind towards Biden now, at all.
Apr 23, 2023, 12:16 AM
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He's the 76 Pinto in my scenario.
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Re: He certainly was - that's why I voted for him a second time.
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A lot of medicines taste bad or have unpleasant side effects. Hopefully there's enough mature Americans left to force America to take another dose of Donald Trump.
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Re: It should be, or at least it should be Biden running on his
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Can there be so many voters oblivious to their worse off lives from Biden’s policies that they still will vote for Biden vs Trump?
Biden’s he77 bound train is picking up speed.
Quarterly reports will be out soon. A bunch of companies which were still holding up on their earnings as of Q4-2022 have had very disappointing Q1-2023 results. Outlook for the rest of 2023 is not good for many of these companies.
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Absolutely there are that may voters who will vote once
Apr 24, 2023, 9:26 AM
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again to just keep Trump out. Wait and see. We already know there are enough dumb people in America to sway a close election, without a doubt.
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Re: Hey Dems..Bill O'Reilly says 2024 election will be between
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Bill the real question is how did your daughter turn out to be a democrat? Geez!!! Just kidding but Thanksgiving must be fun.
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Re: Hey Dems..Bill O'Reilly says 2024 election will be between
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Nah. Biden will get 100 million votes and be proclaimed the most successful and popular president ever by the media and not a single leftist in the country will wonder for one second whether thats actually true.
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Sorry Bill, but the GOP desire to outlaw abortion nationwide
Apr 22, 2023, 10:51 AM
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will make it impossible for a Republican to win in 2024. With DeSantis signing a 6 week ban, it is no longer simply a Democratic scare tactic to warn of what Republicans will do if given the chance.
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Re: Sorry Bill, but the GOP desire to outlaw abortion nationwide
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You are either not paying attention or you are being
Apr 23, 2023, 11:06 AM
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completely dishonest.
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Re: You are either not paying attention or you are being
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Must not be paying attention. I guess I need to be provided a link to something.
Message was edited by: klimpzun®
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I think it's just simple dishonesty for obvious reasons.
Apr 23, 2023, 6:03 PM
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Which seems to be taking over the GOP. Lyndsey Graham said it was for the states to decide and then he proposes a federal ban late last year. DeSantis just signed a 6 week ban in Florida in the dark of night. He's in second place in the polling for the GOP presidential nomination. Nancy Mace is speaking out about the extremism in her state with a bill to execute women who have abortions. All sorts of right wing crazy making its way through the process in Republican led states. It's just the tip of the iceberg since the right wing Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.
Let me know if there anything additional you require. Try to keep up.
https://apnews.com/article/2022-midterm-elections-abortion-inflation-us-supreme-court-health-7ea4f8fa597c97042503d856a082ef94GOP's Graham unveils nationwide abortion ban after 15 weeks WASHINGTON (AP) — Upending the political debate, Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham introduced a nationwide abortion ban Tuesday, sending shockwaves through both parties and igniting fresh debate on a fraught issue weeks before the midterm elections that will determine control of Congress.
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Re: I think it's just simple dishonesty for obvious reasons.
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Call it whatever you like. Republicans are openly working
Apr 23, 2023, 7:06 PM
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towards a federal ban on abortion. To pretend otherwise is silly.
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Re: Call it whatever you like. Republicans are openly working
Apr 23, 2023, 10:03 PM
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You’ve been willingly propagandized.
Even in super red states like SC this isn’t happening.
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All-TigerNet [11065]
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I don’t think that will matter.
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Apr 22, 2023, 11:16 AM
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1 - a lot of the votes aren’t cast by actual people. They are just stuffed ballots.
2 - people are generally dumb and don’t understand cause and effect.
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All-In [40977]
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The cause of inflation is greedy corporations
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Apr 22, 2023, 3:38 PM
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the way to lower prices is to tax those greedy basturds more and provide more free stuff for people that fit your voter demographic.
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CU Guru [1649]
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Yeah, that’s the cause for inflation.
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Apr 22, 2023, 11:36 PM
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I guess corporations only got greedy the past two years.
And if you tax them more, wouldn’t they just pass the taxes on to the consumer?
As I am proofreading this I am thinking to myself that you were being sarcastic. I hope that is the case.
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All-In [40977]
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yes I was, that is just how ignorant dem talking points are***
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Apr 23, 2023, 6:37 AM
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Oculus Spirit [98246]
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Ribeyes are $17/lb
Apr 22, 2023, 12:43 PM
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Lol. I draw an imaginary line at $13-$14/lb. Filets are $24/lb.
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110%er [9127]
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Trump is the republican nominee
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Apr 22, 2023, 2:37 PM
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if he can stay alive
get over it, get behind trump and help win
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All-In [40977]
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No chance do I vote for Trump. I have voted R in every
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Apr 22, 2023, 3:40 PM
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election since 1980. I won't vote for Trump.
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110%er [9127]
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Re: No chance do I vote for Trump. I have voted R in every
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Apr 22, 2023, 6:19 PM
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other than being a mean bully, which of his policies did you disagree with?
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All-In [40977]
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We can start with the massive spending increases
Apr 23, 2023, 6:36 AM
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and tax reductions that conveniently disappear after he is out of office. I am good with tax cuts as long as I see spending cuts that exceed the tax cuts. That's not what happened. We just increased the debt on our children and now it is starting to blow up because the cost of debt is increasing.
Character matters. He is a piece of ####. When dems attack him I will stick up for him because that's what's right. I often sound like a Trump supported because of this.
When he lost the election he should have gracefully bowed out. He is a sore loser and a putz.
We need leadership that will bring us together not divide us more. The vast majority of our politicians are not capable of that, but there are a few. Even that piece of #### Clinton was able to work with Newt and enact some good policies.
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All-In [25140]
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p#1: Spending was a function of dealing with CoVid...
Apr 23, 2023, 1:56 PM
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P#2: Agree.
p#3: Agree.
p#4: Biden's campaign promise in a nut shell. What ACTUALLY happened?
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110%er [9127]
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i blame we the people for where we are
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Apr 23, 2023, 8:29 PM
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we the people are too lazy and selfish to hold lawmakers accountable, expecting someone else to resolve our problems
spending falls on congress, tax cuts came from congress
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110%er [7380]
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Re: No chance do I vote for Trump. I have voted R in every
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Apr 22, 2023, 11:39 PM
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The widespread ‘social shaming’ endeavors by media, long-standing politicians from both parties, celebrities, and education system employees to turn people against Trump have been very effective.
Yet Trump never advocated a total ban on abortions (which is THE hot button issue that kept the Republicans from taking the Senate and from blowing out the House in 2022).
Few people can point to a single policy issue that they didn’t like from Trump; far fewer can point to two such ‘no like’ policies.
In a choice between a terrible and corrupt Biden vs an unpleasant and personally insufferable Trump, it is inexplicable that ‘bad personality’ is worse than ‘corrupt and incompetent.’
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All-In [40977]
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Neither are acceptable. If the republicans want to follow
Apr 23, 2023, 6:24 AM
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Trump, then they lose my support. I don't think I am alone.
I am not a moderate. I am a fiscal conservative. I don't give two ##### about abortion. Yeah it's murder, yeah I don't care. War is murder and I'm sometimes okay with that too. I am against the death penalty, but not because it is murder. I'm okay with the murder part, just not the justice part because our justice system is so bad.
The dems will put a left wing psycho on the ballot just like always. There are maybe a hand full of dems that I'd vote for over Trump, I would have voted for Tulsi if she got the nod last election just because I despise Trump's self absorbed character.
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110%er [7380]
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Re: Neither are acceptable. If the republicans want to follow
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Apr 23, 2023, 12:15 PM
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Trump’smassive spending came about when COVID hit.
Neither Biden nor Obama nor G.W.Bush nor Clinton faced anything close as far as an eco mic catastrophe.
2008 banking collapse was nothing compared to the threat that Covid scare did to the economy. For this situation, massive deficit spending was not only desirable, it was also critically important to keep some grease on the wheels of the economy.
Where else was Trump’s spending outrageous?
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All-In [25140]
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T-Rump's contribution to the deficit was ~ 2 $Trillion...
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Apr 23, 2023, 2:02 PM
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Biden (or rather, his puppeteers) contributed ~ 6 $Trillion ( most of which was couched in some Orwellian Newspeak name).
Anybody that thinks JoeBi is running this administration is a FOOL!
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CU Guru [1515]
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Re: T-Rump's contribution to the deficit was ~8 $Trillion...
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Apr 23, 2023, 2:37 PM
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Just a 5 minute internet search indicates:
FY 2021: $1.5 trillion FY 2020: $4.2 trillion FY 2019: $1.2 trillion FY 2018: $1.3 trillion
Biden
FY 2022: $2.4 trillion
Both suuuuck!
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All-In [25140]
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And I can't even give a TU for the correction... Poor baby.***
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Apr 23, 2023, 2:53 PM
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