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Wednesday November 05, 2008

The Climber

The Climber
I think about coaching candidates at Clemson too often and too long throughout each day. We are about a month away from finding out who will be the head coach of the Tigers but it still consumes my thoughts all day, every day.

I think about specific candidates. I go over the pros and cons of Dabo Swinney, Will Muschamp, Bud Foster, Tommy Tuberville, Mike Leach, Gary Patterson, Jim Grobe and anyone else I can dream up in my head.

I have in my head a list of a few guys that Clemson would have to take no matter what the circumstances. That would include the top five or ten coaches in college football and coaches like Butch Davis, just in case any of those guys get in touch and express interest. For everyone else I make these pros and cons and try to see how they match up in my head with what Clemson might be looking for.

I have mentioned on the blog before that this is kind of like those online dating services in which you can say you are looking for a blonde over 5’8’ but under 130 pounds with blue eyes who has at least a master’s degree who makes over $250,000 a year and loves dogs and sports. Chances are you will never find one that fits all of your criteria.

It would be nice to find a guy who has been ultra-successful as a head coach who has ties to the South and is known for being hard-nosed and enthusiastic. The perfect candidate would also be a great recruiter who is great with boosters and the media. He would have tremendous character and would not cost too much.

I am not sure that candidate exists so you have to sacrifice in some areas.

One area where I would give consideration to is “The Climber.”

A Memorable Conversation
Last year I had a conversation with one of my best friends. The conversation stays in my head to this day.

Brody Smith came to Clemson from Southwest Virginia to play baseball for Bill Wilhelm. He graduated from Clemson in 1997 and knew he had a higher calling to serve his country.

Brody join the United States Army as a Ranger and became an E-5 Sergeant Team Leader in the 2nd Ranger Battalion.

He heroically served his country in Afghanistan in 2002 and Iraq in 2003. I value the stories he shares of his dedicated service and have sworn not to tell details of his incredible efforts in the Middle East.

I can tell you the conversation we had last year though. I had sensed that Brody had something heavy on his mind. He had not been the same for the past few months and I was worried. He was a very successful salesman and had a great family and a nice house in the place where he dreamed he would return to live, Clemson. But Brody was not Brody and his friends were worried.

We had lunch at The Esso and migrated to the parking lot to continue our conversation when he asked me a question I have never heard before or since.

“What if you were 34 years old and had already done the best thing that you would ever do in your lifetime?” Brody asked. Here was a war hero who had his whole life ahead of him but was wondering what he could do to climb the mountain again. He was lost and searching for answers.

He was looking for his new Everest.

I found an internet article that says, “At the end of the 2004 climbing season, 1,400 different climbers from twenty different countries had completed a total of over 2000 climbs.” Few have ever climbed Mt. Everest and very few ever do it twice.

I can see the motivation to climb Everest. I do not understand the reasons to climb it twice.

Also, once you have climbed Everest, what is next? How do you get motivated for the Rockies when you have been to the peak of Everest? How do you get motivated for your local 5K when you have finished the Boston Marathon?

Like many companies, I think it is important for Clemson to find someone who is a climber. I want to see someone who is on his way up and not in the twilight of his career.

Mt. Everest is the highest place on earth where it’s peak is 8,848 meters or 29,029 feet above sea level. But you can’t climb Everest without spending time at one of two base camps. The South Base Camp is in Nepal and is 5,360 meters or 17,600 feet above sea level. The North Base Camp is in Tibet and is 5,208 meters or 17,090 feet above sea level.

I want someone who sees Clemson as their base camp and a place where they can get to the peak or national title (hopefully at Clemson). I don’t want someone who has already coached in the biggest game of his career.

Lou Holtz coached at Williams & Mary, NC State, Arkansas, Minnesota, the New York Jets and South Carolina but his base camp was Notre Dame and he had his Everest there.

Bear Bryant spent time as the head coach at Maryland, Kentucky and Texas A&M but his base camp was Alabama and he saw the peak six times there.

Clemson has been to Everest once and it was a climber that took it there in Danny Ford.

Don’t get me wrong, you can’t turn down a great coach like Davis, Stoops, Carroll or any other top notch guy. But unless someone knocks your socks off, I say let’s consider a climber.

Brody’s story ends on a great note. He had to petition the Army because of his age but he has been accepted to re-enlist. He leaves November 20 to enter Warrant Officer Candidate School at Ft. Rucker, AL. He will be there until February then he will spend his next 42 weeks at flight school learning to fly Blackhawk and Apache helicopters. His goal is to get back to the Middle East to help his brothers and have yet another “best thing you will ever do in your life” moment.

How will Clemson’s story end? Ask me in December.



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Comments:

You probably want to make sure that blonde only makes $249,999.99.

Posted by WakeBdr on November 05, 2008 at 01:10 PM EST #


Mickey - first let me say that I am for Dabo being given every possible chance to become HC, and I sincerely hope any HC we get keeps him with Clemson (although that becomes unlikely with some hires).

As for climbing Everest:
Many attempt it, few make it, some die trying.
If you were going to try it, you would want someone who had been there and done that leading you!
There are people who have done it, and keep doing it becuase they never get tired of the thrill of that accomplishment.

Posted by tigerP94 on November 05, 2008 at 01:12 PM EST #


As that equates to sports and/or coaching:
If we do not hire Dabo as the HC after this season, TDB should hire a proven winner who can climb (or has climbed) Everest!
Dabo seems like a guy who HATES losing, which is different than a guy that loves winning. TB loved winning, but seemed OK losing sometimes.

Here is a thought - Tiger Woods dominance in golf breaks the 'climber' mold. He has certainly had plenty of victories and thrills, but he keeps chasing more of them and absolutely HATES when he does not win (even grinding out wins sometimes in non-majors). Are coaches like Saban like that? They never lose the desire to go win it, and never accept losing.

Posted by tigerP94 on November 05, 2008 at 01:18 PM EST #


I would submit that Tiger Woods "Mt. Everest" is the breaking Nicklaus' record of major titles...something he has yet to climb.

Posted by awatts on November 05, 2008 at 01:23 PM EST #


Some base camps are better than others. SoCar's base camp was at too low of an elevation for Holz & (hopefully) Spurrier to climb to the peak.

Mickey makes a good point though. For example, despite his extraordinary success at Tennessee (including an NC, 2 SEC titles, and 5 divisional titles), would Clemson (or UDub) really want Phillip Fulmer? He doesn't seem to be climbing. Though he could probably do wonders at a school like Syracuse or Toledo.

It seems that every candidate that has been realistically reported to be on Clemson's, UT's, or UW's short list, is still climbing. Pretty standard stuff.

Posted by Razzmatazz on November 05, 2008 at 01:30 PM EST #


GREAT post Mickey! On point. But the issue I take with your article is this:

Your point of view (The Climber) makes it all about the coach. But coaches should be exceptional leaders. The best leaders are those who have been there before and then come back to lead others to that same end point Some can blindly find their way to the top and those who follow will be included in the success. Danny Ford did it in 1981. But that's a rarity, and not something we should "hope" for. We should settle for nothing less than a PROVEN leader. The more trips to the top, the better. You even said so in your post: "Don’t get me wrong, you can’t turn down a great coach like Davis, Stoops, Carroll or any other top notch guy..."

Those guys (your top choices) have been to the top. Anything short of that caliber of a person will require us all to have a little blind faith.

Posted by RU4GOD2 on November 05, 2008 at 02:56 PM EST #


Sweet post

Posted by OldTiger05 on November 05, 2008 at 03:09 PM EST #


Some of u say that we need a coach who has experience at the top to win, but all of the coaches who have won did so the first time without experience. I think that if we hire someone other than Dabo we should go with somebody young who is on the rise! It isn't a guarantee but neither is a proven coach. Ask South Carolina. Urban Meyer is an example of someone who had never been to the top but got there quickly at UF. Nick Saban and Les Miles at LSU are two other examples.

Posted by jdwtiger on November 05, 2008 at 04:36 PM EST #


I like your reference to the 'climber' but he better have a good Sherpa or the climb will not be successful! Same with coaching.

Posted by FORESTTIGER on November 05, 2008 at 04:41 PM EST #


Ok here is just my feeling on the subject and i have posted a couple blogs on my myspace page about it. What Clemson needs a not only a Coach that hates to lose and ready to take on the world what we need is a coach that BLEEDS ORANGE!!!! Someone who not cares about winning football games but cares about the students,the town, and the fans.Now do you really think that a Muschamp or the others coaches you named will give a flip about Clemson? Not the football program but the students,town, and fans. I say keep Swinney he is the shot in the butt we have needed since Danny left us. I see him taking this team to an all time high. And GO OUT AND GET BOBBY BENTLY FROM PC FOR THE OC JOB. Rumors are starting that he may be going back to Byrnes High. He coached Willy Korn to 4 or 5 State Championships and his aggresive style offense is just what we need. If you would like to check out my blogs look me up at myspace.com/terryemt

Posted by Rescue21EMT on November 06, 2008 at 07:35 AM EST #


I would love to meet Brody and have lengthy conversation with him.

Posted by dhamm on November 07, 2008 at 11:02 AM EST #


Where is Mickey's Thursday and Friday's blog??

Posted by Kinghunterx5 on November 07, 2008 at 03:38 PM EST #


Posted by junglejane on November 10, 2008 at 02:12 PM EST #


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