
Wednesday February 25, 2009
Our Dean Smith; VT Preview; Baseball
Our Dean Smith
I received an e-mail the other day that I would have saved and addressed in our Friday E-Mail Bag segment but instead I wanted to spend a little more time on it and thought it was worthy of more attention.
A Clemson fan wanted to know if I thought Oliver Purnell was our Dean Smith or our Jim Valvano? He was comparing Purnell and his accomplishments here to what Smith or Valvano had accomplished at UNC and NC State respectively.
To be fair, Smith won two national championships, 13 ACC tournament titles and 17 regular season championships. He is the second winningest coach in the sport’s history and took the Tar Heels to 11 Final Fours (John Wooden had only one more Final Four appearance).
Valvano’s teams won the regular season or ACC tournament in 1983, 1985, 1987 and 1989. His 1983 team shocked college basketball when it won the national title.
Both men are coaching legends that combined to win 37 ACC regular season, ACC tournament or national championships.
But to be fair to Oliver Purnell, both Smith and Valvano took over completely different situations at two basketball powers. Sure Smith and Valvano were two Hall of Fame coaches but they were at schools that had excellent basketball traditions. Both coaches took over programs that had already won a national championship. North Carolina won the 1957 national title under Frank McGuire and NC State won the 1974 NCAA championship under Norm Sloan.
North Carolina had nine conference championships before Dean Smith ever stepped on campus. Norm Sloan won three and Everett Case won ten titles before Valvano came to State.
These programs had great history and great players throughout each program’s history. Lennie Rosenbluth preceded Dean Smith. David Thompson came to Raleigh before Jim Valvano.
Of all of the players and coaches mentioned above, only Rosenbluth and Valvano are not in the Basketball Hall of Fame. The next time you go to Springfield, MA let me know how many former Clemson players and coaches are in the Hall of Fame.
Purnell took over a completely different animal at Clemson. UNC and NC State have 27 ACC tournament titles. Clemson is still looking for its first. The Tar Heels and Wolfpack have played in the ACC tournament finals 46 times. The Tigers have played in the finals twice.
The Tar Heels and Wolfpack have combined to go to 20 Final Fours. Clemson made it to the Elite Eight once.
I am not saying that Purnell belongs in the basketball Hall of Fame but I am saying that Purnell took over a completely different situation. And in some ways, what Purnell has been able to do at Clemson is as impressive as what other great coaches across the ACC accomplished. Maybe it would be more fair to compare what Purnell has done at Clemson to what Lefty Driesell did at Maryland or Bobby Cremins did at Georgia Tech since their schools did not have huge success before those coaches arrived. Maryland won the 1958 tournament before Lefty arrived in 1969 and obviously Georgia Tech did not win one before Cremins.
Virginia Tech Preview
I have to tell ya that this one scares me.
I know Virginia Tech has been struggling and have lost five of its last seven contests but this one has me concerned for several reasons:
1-Tech matches up well with Clemson. They are big enough and athletic enough to give the Tigers a hard time.
2-The Hokies are fighting for the NCAA lives right now. They come into tonight’s game with a 6-6 ACC record and have games left with Duke, North Carolina and Florida State remaining. The schedule is difficult so this is probably a must win for Tech tonight.
3-Clemson-Virginia Tech games are seemingly always extremely close. It seems as if these games always go down to the final minutes with the game undecided.
4-Tech plays a bunch of close games. Five of their losses came on the opponents’ last shot.
5-The Hokies understand tonight’s game will be about defense and I look for an incredible effort on the defensive end.
6-Delaney, Vassallo and Allen are good enough to beat anyone in the league.
7-Seth Greenberg will have his crew ready to play with a tremendous energy tonight.
Clemson needs tonight’s game as bad a Virginia Tech but for different reasons. Like Tech, the Tigers schedule gets difficult in the last three regular season games so Clemson needs to win at home. Clemson also needs to win for seeding in the NCAA and ACC tourneys.
I would expect the Littlejohn crowd tonight to be energetic and enthusiastic. This crucial ACC basketball stuff is pretty fun. I think I can get used to this for the next few years of my life.
Clemson Baseball
When I was about eight years old my grand dad taught me a pretty good lesson on the golf course. He said, “Don’t ever judge a player by his first tee shot. I have seen players top it off of the first tee and shoot 67 and have seen players rip it down the middle off of the first tee and shoot 107.”
This past weekend was the first time we got a chance to see the 2009 Clemson baseball team and I am trying to follow my grand dad’s advice but I liked what I saw and heard.
This team looks a little bigger and a little more athletic. There seems to be more depth at most positions and in the pitching.
The freshmen looked impressive for their first time out. Brad Miller looked comfortable at shortstop. Jason Stolz played well at third. Richard Mounce looks like he has some bat speed. Phil Pohl looked comfortable behind the plate. Will Lamb is a big kid that really motors down the line.
The young pitchers looked impressive as well. Chris Dwyer put on a show Saturday when he struck out seven of the first nine he faced. We will get a better idea of what to expect from Kevin Brady today but he pitched well Saturday. Scott Weismann looked impressive in his appearance. Tomas Cruz is a JUCO transfer but he looked sharp.
The sophomore class looks like it improved as well and is represented by starters like Addison Johnson, Kyle Parker, Jeff Schaus, Chris Epps and Graham Stoneburner.
With so many freshman and sophomore contributors I could see this team continue to develop and get Clemson baseball fans excited again about this program.
I know it was just Charlotte but I saw some energy from this team this past weekend. They looked aggressive on the base paths and fundamentally sound on defense. I was also impressed by the late comeback win Sunday.
It is early and the competition will get real good, real fast. However, it looks like a good foundation again for Tiger baseball.
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Mickey --- Good analogy ... OP = Bobby Cremins re: what he has done for hoops at a school with little tradition playing in a conference with tons of history.
Posted by apextiger on February 25, 2009 at 11:11 AM EST #
I agree with you about tonight. If we lose, then getting a first round bye in the ACC tournament becomes very difficult. If they lose then getting into the NCAA tournament becomes very difficult.
Should be a fun game to watch.
Posted by Locotiger on February 25, 2009 at 11:15 AM EST #
While I agree that OP has done WONDERFUL things in a relatively short period of time and think we will be great for the next few years - he hasnt done ANYTHING untill he wins a NCAA Tournament Game...
Posted by balllin on February 25, 2009 at 12:05 PM EST #
Wow. I'd like to win an NCAA Tournament game too, but to say that Purnell hasn't done anything until that happens just seems sad to me (not Mickey's blog, but ballin's comment).
I think that we should have expected to win one last year, and we should definitely expect to win one this year, but to not recognize the great things he's done so far is unfair. Well, reading over the comment again, it does say "...OP has done WONDERFUL things... he hasn't done ANYTHING...," so I guess ballin is just confused.
I want to win a Tournament game very badly. But, I choose to recognize the success that Purnell has had already. Yes, I'll expect more in the future, that's just what a fan does. But I'm so happy with not being a shoe-in for the play-in game anymore in the ACC Tourney (granted, we don't have that anymore, but that's the situation Purnell was originally faced with). Congratulations to Purnell for that.
Posted by barbasol on February 25, 2009 at 12:57 PM EST #
Not to owrry ... OP's initial NCAA win will come in a couple of weeks. More to the point for his legacy will be whether he ever wins an ACC torunament title or (gasp!) wins a gamwe n Chapel Hill. Those will be musts before any serious talk of comparing him to Smith or Valvano.
Posted by apextiger on February 25, 2009 at 01:52 PM EST #
Please! OP is already above Smith and Valvano in my eyes. OP does not whine and complain about every call as Smith did. OP does not try to intimidate other coaches as Smith tried to do, and failed, with Barnes. Why is Valvano not in the HOF? Maybe wrongdoing at NCSU is why. They didn't run him off at NCSU for doing a good job.
Posted by Shipyard Tiger on February 25, 2009 at 01:59 PM EST #
unless I am badly in error, Valvano died of cancer while coach at NCSU, he was not run off for wrongdoing.
Posted by tonybenson62003 on February 25, 2009 at 03:12 PM EST #
barbasol, the point is that you cant call him "Our Dean Smith" just yet...Believe me, I hope he stays here FOREVER! But come on, Dean Smith?? Like i said, he needs to win a NCAA Tournament Game First (hasnt done it ANYWHERE), then we can worry about catching all of those Championships that Smith and V had!
Go Tigers beat Va Tech!
Posted by balllin on February 25, 2009 at 03:31 PM EST #
Valvano was forced to resign as the school's athletic director in October 1989. He remained as basketball coach through the 1989-1990 season. Under subsequent pressure from the school's faculty and new Chancellor, Valvano negotiated a settlement with NC State and resigned as basketball coach on April 7, 1990.
Posted by Shipyard Tiger on February 26, 2009 at 12:04 AM EST #