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Friday July 10, 2009

Friday E-Mail Bag

Friday E-Mail Bag
Each Friday I publish your comments and answer your questions. To submit a comment or questions please e-mail me at mickeyplyler@hotmail.com.

Mickey,

I hope all is well up in Clemson. I wanted to see if you had heard anything more about us going back to our traditional uniforms. I know you had interviewed Dabo a few months back on the show and he had mentioned that. Do you think this is still a possibility? I would love us wearing something like we had in the late 80's, except with the new Nike fabric obviously.

Pickens

Pickens,
I think Dabo wants to make changes but I am not sure he had time to do it. I will check but would not be surprised if it took more time to make the changes. I have heard it takes several months to make the order through Nike and I am not sure how big of a priority it was with Dabo at the time it had to be made. My guess is we may see more changes in 2010 than we do in 2009. I will ask again though.

Mick,

The divide between Clemson's Academic side and the Athletic side seems to grow larger as it's not just the Clemson nation talking about it now. You covered this in depth last Friday and had some solid email responses, however it seems that no matter how much people talk the only thing that seems to matter is the money.

Why don't we start asking all (currently non-athletic) boosters, donors and virtually anyone else sending Clemson money to direct it to IPTAY and other athletic departments? One would think that when the Administration sees the Academic donations decrease by 50% and Athletic donations increase by 50% there's the proof of what the people want. Don't get me wrong--I'm all for spending money on things the average Clemson student never sees or uses (Barker you reading this?), but we have to do something about this divide and your reference of Jeremy Foley's quote came to mind: ""What should be done eventually, must be done immediately."

Clemson had better not become a Top 15 or Top 10 public university before it wins at least 2 ACC football championships. We aren't ever going to develop into some public version of Harvard or Yale. Barker thinks being ranked in someone's list has more impact than athletic success but maybe he should go ask one of the schools that recently won a NC and saw their donations, applicants and overall prestige jump significantly. (Athletic success = more money? Who would have thought?)

Championships don't begin with scholarships, they begin with how much money is in the bank because that's the only thing that will get Barker and Co. to pay attention to The Dabo Show in Death Valley.

Also, I don't care how many orange ties you have Barker--the next time you fill out a collegiate questionnaire either make sure the results aren't published or you don't put your name on it.

Jonathan

Jonathan,
Dang Jonathan. I would not expect any Christmas card from Sikes Hall anytime soon. I think you have great points about the money. They cook the books on alumni giving though. At Clemson Club meetings, the alumni association takes one dollar per ticket to alumni association to make the percentage go up to affect the Top 20 data. At graduation now they give each student two two dollar bills and get one back from each graduate to make the percentage of alumni giving go up so it looks better for the top 20 mission. I ask is it worth this kind of deception? But you seem to have the answer when it comes to the money issue. I commend you for response.

Mickey,

First off I must say that I love reading your blog. As a former student and Grandson of a former professor I share much of your passion for Clemson University and our sports program in particular. But one thing I must ask is why have you not mentioned at all one student athlete in particular, Oguchi Onyewu. He recently helped the United States go on their historic run in the recent Confederations Cup soccer tournament and as a result has transferred to one of the best teams in Europe. Constantly you search out means to laud our former student athletes and I cannot think of a better person the "Gooch". He has accomplished something no American has done since 1996 which is play in the Top tier of Italian soccer. In fact he is only the second American to play in the league total. Add this to the fact that he is probably the first American to play for one of the European soccer elite, and I figured you would at least mention it and give him a congratulations or at least mention it to others. I know soccer is not the most important sports to most Americans and maybe even less to Clemson fans, but we can all celebrate an Athlete who is going somewhere where no American has gone before.
Keep up the good work,
Brian

Brian,
Thanks for the e-mail. You make a very valid point. The main reason I have not done more on Gooch is my personal ignorance. I don’t follow international soccer. However, please feel free to update as often as it is newsworthy and I will be glad to pass it alone to our readers. He is a terrific athlete a wonderful defender on the US team. So I would love to get more updates on his career.

Mickey,
While I agree, VT has solidified their program based on defense, special teams, running the football and solid fundamentals. Where they are light years ahead of us is in one main area.....COMMITTMENT TO WINNING!! You don't see their President taking money from the football program and putting it toward a ridiculous campaign to get a ranking in ONE magazine just so he can say "look at me, look what I did..." Until we have a serious attitude change in the CU administration from the BOT to the President no Clemson fan should expect anything more than a mid level ACC finish, followed by a mid tier bowl game against yet another team that uses us to springboard themselves to something bigger and better. Count on more coaching changes and never really improving in that area either because NO COACH WORTH TEN CENTS would come to Clemson!! Why come here so you can be undermined by a collection of academics in Sikes Hall?!?!? Enough with the mediocrity that has become Clemson football.

Steve

Steve,
Thanks for the insightful e-mail. I took a hard line approach on the mediocrity on this morning’s radio show. We have to stop accepting it. We need to stand up and say enough is enough. I get tired of complaining and I know people get tired of hearing and reading about it but the facts are the facts and we should not accept mediocrity anymore. We need to demand excellence and let the powers understand we will accept nothing less. Your e- mail energized me again. Spread the word.

Hi Mickey,

I enjoyed the list of 24 questions you will address over the remainder of the summer. I could not help but note that these questions are not independent of one another. For example, the play of the offensive line will influence whether Ellington and Harper can become Thunder and Lightning 2. Ultimately, a failure in any of these areas can affect other areas as the team must compensate in some manner which will likely hurt performance. If the LBs falter, the defensive line will have a much harder job to do. I am keeping my fingers crossed that the team will figure things out and finally play to their potential.

Hope Ryan is doing well.

Best,

Kirk

Kirk,
You made an excellent point. That is why football is the best of the team sports. All 11 have to play as one and you are only as strong as your weakest link. Good points.

Mickey,
With the offseason news lull, it seems that there is renewed scrutiny over the administration and athletic director's effectiveness. You have even asked some hard questions, which I think are all valid given the success of the athletic programs relative to where most fans would like. Two of the oft-cited culprits in all of this are Terry Don Phillips (perhaps through his management of Katie Hill) and the university administration (with President Barker and his Top 20 initiative getting the blame). I get that the buck stops at the top. Missing, for me, from this debate, however, is a good understanding of how all the money flows around the university. Admittedly, I'm no accountant, but I have searched through the Clemson financial statements and some documents from the state auditors office and am unable to piece together a good idea of what's going on. Obviously the athletic department and university have revenues and expenses—athletics through ticket sales and tv contracts; the university through tuition, grants, state appropriations etc, of which tuition now ranks among the highest at 29% of revenue—but how much money, if any, does the athletic department receive from the university (outside of what it earns on it's own)? How much does the athletic department give the university? More importantly, how have these amounts changed over time due to Top 20, the recession, etc? When people accuse Barker of not giving the athletic department the support it needs, are they talking financially or bureaucratically (AARC etc)? I always thought that athletics were extremely important, but when you look at tuition and state funding making up a combined almost 356 million or 54% of the schools revenue in 2008 compared to 50ish million(?) coming from athletics, it's hard for me to say that they are not receiving their due attention relative to all the press the athletic department garners.

Can you provide a general idea of how all this works or perhaps point me to a source where I can compile it myself. I've searched the forum and the website without much luck. I don't need specifics, but if the athletic department was giving, say, 1 million to the university and is now giving 10 million or vice versa, that would be very interesting.

A blog on this topic would be fantastic.

Thanks a lot,

Go Tigers!

Gearhed

Gearhed,
Thanks for an excellent e-mail. I am not as educated on all of the numbers and will say that universities have different philosophies on the subjects. The way I understand the current environment at Clemson, the athletic department here operates with a surplus each year. In the last 20 years or so, the athletic department gives the university millions. However, since the university has been hit with budget issues in the last year or so, the athletic department has been called to give more to the university. I will try to get more specific info and hopefully our readers can provide more details as well. One thing you have noticed is the difficulty is getting the truth when it comes from the accounting on this subject.

Mickey,
Good job on the blog. Now that Noel Johnson has signed and TO has left, could you please discuss who you see in the starting lineup and who will be the main guys coming off the bench next season? Also, how will the addition of Johnson impact the expectations for next season? I am no expert, but it seems that next year’s team will be as deep and talented as any we have put on the floor in a long time.

I continue to pray for Ryan and your family.

Tigerfan

Tigerfan,
Thanks for the e-mail. I think we will see Stitt start at point guard but Young playing more minutes than last year. I think we will see Tanner at the two guard but Johnson grabbing more minutes as the season progresses. At the three I think we will see Milton Jennings start with Potter and Narcisse playing as well. In the post I think Trevor Booker and Grant will start but Devin Booker and Baciu as backups. This freshman class helps at the two with Johnson and Hill and the three and four with Jennings and Booker. You are right about the depth. This program is in great shape now and it looks like the brightest days in Clemson basketball are ahead of us.

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Comments:

Mickey,

your blog is a ghod among men.

Posted by ot on July 10, 2009 at 10:57 AM EDT #


Great blog today Mickey! One of your best.

Can't wait to see what you have in store for us on Monday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Clemsonsteve02 on July 10, 2009 at 11:08 AM EDT #


Mickster,

I wish you would blog on the weekends too... You should consider doing a radio show or something like that...
Thanks for another AWESOME blog!

Posted by Tiger4Life714 on July 10, 2009 at 11:19 AM EDT #


Here is the problem, we say (and I agree) we "must stop accepting mediocrity"? But that has to have MEANING. It means not defending CTB for years after it was obvious he was leading a mediocre program. It means not making hires like Tommy West (good man but didn't have the resume to be Clemson HC) and others.... It means not making excuses for losing out on top notch recruits in our own backyard. It means expecting to beat Maryland and NC St and WF 8/10 years because we have no excuse for not being a superior program with our Stadium, our Fan Base, and our tradition (national title and most ACC titles of any school).

Just read tigerillustrated for example. Most of what they do is rationalize mediocrity (vigorous defense of Bowden for years) and perpetually hype up the future.

If we REALLY are going to stop accepting mediocrity it must be done through actions and not words.

Posted by truetiger1998 on July 10, 2009 at 11:40 AM EDT #


My wife and I quit accepting mediocrity this year when we dropped IPTAY after 18 years. I was not pleased with Tommy Bowden's tenure, the Dabo hire, and the final straw were the parking adjustments being made again this year.
The last 7 or 8 years we parked in the Heisman Lot. The past few years we have been giving more (over $2800) than needed to secure our parking. After talking with the folks in IPTAY this year they could not guarantee our continued parking in the Heisman Lot.
This made us rethink our committment to the program. I'm sorry to say that we decided if $2800+ is not enough IPTAY dues to assure our preferred parking...WE have better things to spend our money on.
I should be pleased since according to my quick math this decision saved us over $6000.00 per year...but I'm not.

Posted by CUTIGER3 on July 10, 2009 at 12:13 PM EDT #


Wow . . . the contingent of "internet terrorists" has seemingly multiplied in the last couple of days.

Guess I'm not the only one drinking the Hater-ade.

Posted by otisman on July 10, 2009 at 01:15 PM EDT #


Mickee...I ca'nt wate to throw you a ticker take parade in honor of your blog's grateness. T-male me for details

Posted by Sandy Springs+Tiger on July 10, 2009 at 02:53 PM EDT #


dont forget that you said that the fact that clemson was never picked high in preseason until last year shows how UNmediocre we were as we never underachieved. you forgot the fact that that in itself was an indictment on the coach. so when exactly did you stop accepting mediocrity?

Posted by tilla on July 10, 2009 at 03:39 PM EDT #


truetiger1998 is dead on. Almost all media covering Clemson football is focused on rationalizing mediocrity. Mickey has been guilty of this until the MD game last year too. The fan base just follows right along. Just post a negative comment about the current coaching staff and watch the Tigernet mafia take you apart.

12 years removed from graduation, I still felt like I was going to puke after every loss. I quit going to games after the MD game in 06. I remember looking around the lots and seeing so many people who seemed to just be there to tailgate with friends. As long as the seats are still filled, Barker gets his money from the cash cow, and the acceptance of mediocrity will continue.

Posted by Bowden's 12th+man on July 11, 2009 at 08:56 PM EDT #


It's ironic to me that many of the people who want us to "stop settling for mediocrity" in football and other sports are the same ones COMPLAINING ad nauseum about our refusal to settle for mediocrity in academics. Why the double standard?

Posted by Judge Keller on July 11, 2009 at 09:51 PM EDT #


Nothing will change as long as the stands are filled, and IPTAY dues are paid. I have been harassed and slandered for years on all the Tiger fan sites for not drinking the mediocrity orange aide. You can't prove it by me that the majority of Tiger fans are not satisfied with mediocrity. Maybe as we fall further behind in the ACC fans will get a set of gonads. WF,UNC and NCSU are going to start beating us on a regular basis. I think tailgating and being seen at the valley is all that matters to most fans.

Posted by junk yard+tiger on July 12, 2009 at 11:07 PM EDT #


JK, as for myself and my closest friends who are Clemson grads, we are not complaining about the academic administration's refusal to settle for mediocrity. My friends and I are 2003 graduates, and we were shocked to learn that our engineering and agriculture degrees did not hold as much weight as we thought they would hold as we began our job search in 03 and 04. Shocked! The administration needs to realize what we can be truly great at--engineering and agriculture--and we need to refocus our energy to support the greatest core disciplines at our university and stop "spreading the wealth around" to every other discipline as we chase this TOP 20 goal because it's diluting the very solid foundations upon which our institution was built!!! Right now our academic administration is reactive--they allow the criteria for this TOP 20 goal to decide how they will focus their energy--and they need to become proactive--decide as a Clemson family what is best for our institution.

Posted by Paws4Effect on July 13, 2009 at 10:32 AM EDT #


so at Alabama, where mediocrity is not tolerated, they must of had had empty stands until a few years ago, right?

Posted by PokerTiger on July 14, 2009 at 03:05 PM EDT #


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